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Smoking ban in Polish bars and restaurants (AT LAST!)


Mee - | 11
20 Jan 2011 #391
The world's first ban on smoking in public places was introduced by who? Nazi Germany in 1941.

Interestingly, Hilter, Franco and Mussolini were all non-smokers (with Hitler the most rabid of them), while FDR and Churchill both liked a puff

That`s very interesting news. Thanks for sharing it with us!
smurf 39 | 1,981
20 Jan 2011 #392
while FDR and Churchill both liked a puff.

ha, I knew Churchill was a homo :)
kondzior 10 | 1,021
20 Jan 2011 #393
It's like for example putting some amount of Cl disinfecting agent to tap water.

Maybe I am dense, but I don't see how it relates to mine proposition? You know: if bars, pubs and such were obliged to put out a visible signs like: "Smokers come here" or "Smoking forbiden", everyone would be free to choose what establishment to visit. Are you worried about smoker's health or what?

democracy. I'm not judging if it's good or bad (totally different topic) but here it works as usual: the majority dictates the minority...

Fair enough. Can we ban homosexuality now? I mean, they are a minoroty and are harmull to propagation of a human spieces, so can the stright majority ban that harmfull behaviour? Disinfecting agent anyone?
Olaf 6 | 956
20 Jan 2011 #394
The world's first ban on smoking in public places was introduced by who? Nazi Germany in 1941.

Hitler's idea was also t ohave Volkswagen. And Henkel aircrafts used to bomb cities. Now Henkel produces detergents. But you say to ban it all right? Ok...

Interestingly, Hilter, Franco and Mussolini were all non-smokers (with Hitler the most rabid of them), while FDR and Churchill both liked a puff.

So we must start smoking to be on the good side, if I follow???

Are you worried about smoker's health or what?

Everyones' - to some extent, but it is smokers' choice to smoke. But the smoke affects otehers, like non-smokers and this is where I support the ban.

Can we ban homosexuality now?

Are their actions harmful to others? If so - then yes, let's ban it. But for any illegal action a homosexual can face penalty, just as heterosexual or bisexual - doesn't matter.
kondzior 10 | 1,021
21 Jan 2011 #395
But the smoke affects otehers

In what a way, to be exact? At "for smokers only" pubs, I mean.
Olaf 6 | 956
21 Jan 2011 #396
There are no such pubs only for smokers, unless you mean a crack house.
JaneDoe 5 | 114
21 Jan 2011 #397
Well, maybe there is a smoking ban in Poland, but people still smoke in bars. It takes long time?
Olaf 6 | 956
21 Jan 2011 #398
I have seen only one bar in Krakow that people smoke in...
kondzior 10 | 1,021
22 Jan 2011 #399
Olaf: There are no such pubs only for smokers

No sheet? Really? My point is: there should be such. Much better solution then our today's facist ban. Somkers's pubs and non-smokers's pubs. If you go into one, you know what to expect.

Olaf: if you can suggest an alternative that would work similarly but also allowed non-smoking majority of society to frequent bars

So I have stated my alternative. Every one should choose what bar he wants to visit. What's wrong with that? Are you afraid that people will not know what is good for them? That their choices will be a wrong ones? So you have to do it for them? I, for one, prefere to do my own choices and then face the consequences. It may be not the most wise choice, but my own.

Sure, smoking is a minor matter. But then, you have freedom, or you don't have it. One day, you may say ;-)
First they came for the smokers and I did not speak up because I was not a smoker. (...) And when they have came for me, there was no one left to speak up.
Olaf 6 | 956
27 Jan 2011 #400
If you go into one, you know what to expect.

Yeah, and crack houses, so that you know what to expect when you enter.

So I have stated my alternative. Every one should choose what bar he wants to visit. What's wrong with that?

I just heard of a place in Denmark (I think it was Denmark) where they opened a sort of brothel with... animals. A client can come and pick a sheep or a chicken (?!) or a dog...

What's wrong with that?

I just don't follow that;)

Sure, smoking is a minor matter. But then, you have freedom, or you don't have it. One day, you may say ;-)

Here we agree.


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