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Smoking ban in Polish bars and restaurants (AT LAST!)


Wroclaw 44 | 5,388
12 Oct 2010  #2
"Polish pub and restaurant owners have a month left to prepare separate space for smokers.

i noticed this in force in Klub WZ. one half of the club was smoking, the other half was not. there was also the option to go outside.
OP sausage 19 | 777
12 Oct 2010  #3
there was also the option to go outside.

Something to look forward to when it's minus 20 out.
convex 20 | 3,978
12 Oct 2010  #4
Comrade, we must now fight for an alcohol ban so that workers may live even happier and healthier lives!
Wroclaw 44 | 5,388
12 Oct 2010  #5
Something to look forward to when it's minus 20 out.

at my watering hole in berlin they have a heated cabin (garden shed) outside. some bar/club owners may do the same here.
Teffle 22 | 1,321
12 Oct 2010  #6
Don't be too hasty.

We were the pioneers of this 'wonderful' idea - but also in ways of getting around it (kind of)

The law probably isn't going to be exactly the same in Poland as it is in Ireland though I suppose.
Olaf 6 | 956
12 Oct 2010  #7
Ha ha! Any way good to get the stinkers outside.
dtaylor5632 18 | 2,007
12 Oct 2010  #8
The law probably isn't going to be exactly the same in Poland as it is in Ireland though I suppose.

The law won't be the same in Poland, this law is only going to ask owners to introduce serperate area's of the bar for smokers and non-smokers. Some bar owners may wish that only a small area of the bar will be given to non smokers. The 2 bar owners which I'm friends with in Krakow say that most of the customers they have are smokers, therefore they won't be taking much notice of the new "rules".
f stop 25 | 2,513
12 Oct 2010  #9
In Florida, the non-smoking ban is bars is somehow linked to the percentage of the income generated from food sales. I have noticed that if there are two bars next to each other - one smoking allowed one not, the smoking bar is always busier. It makes sense to me - the only time I crave cigarettes is when I'm drinking and socializing.

I see most of the bars investing in an outdoor area, too.
trener zolwia 1 | 940
12 Oct 2010  #10
Comrade, we must now fight for an alcohol ban so that workers may live even happier and healthier lives!

That's about right, comrade. They just can't leave others alone.

I have noticed that if there are two bars next to each other - one smoking allowed one not, the smoking bar is always busier.

That's the free market at work, as it should be. But nannying Leftists don't want the free market to decide when they can decide for everyone...
pgtx 29 | 3,159
12 Oct 2010  #11
Smoking ban in Polish bars and restaurants

yay! :)
Harry
12 Oct 2010  #12
With the best will in the world, what the fuuck has it got to do to you whether people smoke in Polish bars or not? Do we come to your country and tell you that you don't have the right to own a different gun for each day of the month or that people who drive vehicles that get less than ten miles to the gallon should be used as target practice? No, so kindly keep your nose out of Polish affairs.
pgtx 29 | 3,159
12 Oct 2010  #13
No, so kindly keep your nose out of Polish affairs.

it's nothing new... only sensitive smokers don't like it... you can't smoke almost anywhere where i live and i love it! i quit smoking a few weeks ago and it's soooo much easier while not being around smokers in a bar...

so yay!
:)
dtaylor5632 18 | 2,007
12 Oct 2010  #14
Banning smoking should be the same as banning drinking. Alcohol has a more destructive impact in the world than smoking ever could reach.
jonni 16 | 2,485
12 Oct 2010  #15
i quit smoking a few weeks ago

Congratulations and keep it up! My lungs have got to the point (after smoking for 30 years) that I need to stop right away or become very ill.

A downside of the ban is that in the UK, it has more or less destroyed traditional pub culture, with bars closing down at a shocking rate. My favourite bar in Warsaw is a tiny place and probably 75% of the regulars smoke. It would be a shame to see it go.
OP sausage 19 | 777
12 Oct 2010  #16
with bars closing down at a shocking rate.

probably the big breweries screwing the leaseholders is as much to blame

A downside of the ban is that in the UK

other downsides include cigarette butts littering the streets and an increase of drunken noisy people outside the pubs instead of inside where they belong
pgtx 29 | 3,159
12 Oct 2010  #17
Congratulations and keep it up!

thanks, will do... :)

Banning smoking should be the same as banning drinking. Alcohol has a more destructive impact in the world than smoking ever could reach.

there is nothing wrong to have a beer or two now and then...
jonni 16 | 2,485
12 Oct 2010  #18
other downsides include cigarette butts littering the streets and an increase of drunken noisy people outside the pubs instead of inside where they belong

Exactly, though litter is nothing new and I only ever see small groups of mostly middle-aged people by pub doors.
convex 20 | 3,978
12 Oct 2010  #19
I'm going to fund a study linking children to elevated blood pressure and therefore heart attacks. If this turns out to be verifiable, I would expect an immediate ban on children in private businesses.
OP sausage 19 | 777
12 Oct 2010  #20
I only ever see small groups of mostly middle-aged people by pub doors.

with leathery skin?
there should be gambling allowed in pubs too, then the government could get revenue from 3 sources all at once
trener zolwia 1 | 940
12 Oct 2010  #21
A downside of the ban is that in the UK, it has more or less destroyed traditional pub culture, with bars closing down at a shocking rate.

other downsides include cigarette butts littering the streets and an increase of drunken noisy people outside the pubs instead of inside where they belong

These are the unforeseen consequences of nannying regulations.
The free market should be permitted to decide this.

i love it! i quit smoking a few weeks ago and it's soooo much easier while not being around smokers in a bar...
so yay!

So it's ok to restrict others' freedoms just because of your own personal interests? Seems kinda selfish. And did you smoke in bars when you were still smoking? If so, this would make you a hypocrite...
jonni 16 | 2,485
12 Oct 2010  #22
with leathery skin?

Like an alligators arse.

there should be gambling allowed in pubs too, then the government could get revenue from 3 sources all at once

I'm all for that.
OP sausage 19 | 777
12 Oct 2010  #23
more segregation is in order...
gay bars for smokers
gays bars for non-smokers
straight bars for non-smokers
etc
Patrycja19 63 | 2,700
12 Oct 2010  #24
i quit smoking a few weeks ago and it's soooo much easier while not being around smokers in a bar...

I quit 3 years now.. :)
pgtx 29 | 3,159
12 Oct 2010  #25
thumbs up, Patty! :)
snowbird - | 1
13 Oct 2010  #26
There is no reason to have smoking bans in this country.
Owners can post a sign in their doors.
'This is a smoking venue.'
'This is a non-smoking venue.'
This simple solution gives owners and customers choices.
Isn't that the Polish way??
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,884
13 Oct 2010  #27
sausage wrote:

Something to look forward to when it's minus 20 out.

that's what everyone said when they decided to ban smoking in bars/restaurants in NYC but since the ban (2003), it's been business as usual. time and time again people prove that smoking or not, they want to go out and drink.

i was a bartender at the time just across the river in New Jersey and the ban made its way to New Jersey a year or two later, had no effect on business. people stepped outside and smoked, and in the winter, they all huddled around the door outside, shivered....and smoked. no different than the crowd of people you see in the winter standing outside of office buildings. no matter how cold it gets, they're out there puffing away.
Olaf 6 | 956
13 Oct 2010  #28
Alcohol has a more destructive impact

I don't agree. What do you base this on? Human body produces small amounts of alcohol itself. Cigarettes are just marketing-created need. Maybe real tobacco like in cigars or in a pipe have something to do with taste but definitely not cigarettes (also I recently visited philip morris production plant, very interesting)...
Harry
13 Oct 2010  #29
I don't agree.

Nobody ever killed anybody because they were driving after smoking a half pack of cigarettes.
Nobody ever shoved a glass into anybody's face because they were feeling angry after smoking a half pack of cigarettes.
Nobody ever beat their wife up because they were got home after smoking a half pack of cigarettes and she asked where they'd been.

Nobody ever got fired because they kept showing up to work after smoking a half pack of cigarettes.
Nobody ever ended up living at the central station because they spent all their money on cigarettes.
convex 20 | 3,978
13 Oct 2010  #30
There is no reason to have smoking bans in this country.
Owners can post a sign in their doors.
'This is a smoking venue.'
'This is a non-smoking venue.'
This simple solution gives owners and customers choices.
Isn't that the Polish way??

Exactly, but, unfortunately it's not the Polish way.


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