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Poles say a big YES to our European Union


mafketis 37 | 10,911
9 May 2020 #331
calling it illegal with this argument is incorrect.

I tend to agree with Andrew Hammel who thinks the question is largely irrelevant given the complete collapse of asylum law in numerous EU countries which multiple European leaders knew was a danger and did nothing to prevent....

"But in terms of relative illegality, it's like charging someone who committed millions in tax fraud with failing to use adequate postage on his fraudulent tax returns"*

The important point is that European asylum law is completely broken and no improvement is in sight because no one who can wants to deal with the mess....

*here: hammeltranslations.com/2019/05/09/more-on-the-2015-refugee-crisis-and-the-rule-of-law-a-response-to-steinbeis/
Spike31 3 | 1,811
9 May 2020 #332
This one:

Yes, this is massive. It will change the political landscape in the EU in ways many "euro-enthusiasts" cannot imagine yet. It's a great precedence which will help to undermine powers the EU institutions have usurped over the nation states over the years. And the fact that it comes from Germany is a cherry on top.
Ironside 53 | 12,423
9 May 2020 #333
Countries like Poland can use any alliance that increases their weight and independence from Russia. That is a fact.

Sure but devil is in the detail. Being part of the EU without NATO has little value as a defence against encroachment by some rouge power. Hell, it could even be more dangerous for Poland, After all the EU might decide if given such a power to trade some chunk of Poland's territory or some or other economical interest for their own gain or in interest of those BIG members of the EU.
Crow 154 | 9,004
9 May 2020 #334
If you did, you were wrong.

Spasmic reason of Germany could be unpredictable. Don`t you realize that?

/speaking while chewing pizza and sharing that fact here in order to torture haters; not you, man, eventually/

But back then everybody really was happy with Merkel's decision?

Yes, frau Merkel changed face of Germany forever.

/chewing continues/
Ironside 53 | 12,423
9 May 2020 #335
Spasmic reason of Germany could be unpredictable.

quite the opposite in fact. Mr Loon.
Crow 154 | 9,004
9 May 2020 #336
Sure yes, they are quite predictable. We know them. I just wanted to sound poetic.
Spike31 3 | 1,811
9 May 2020 #337
speaking while chewing pizza and sharing that fact here in order to torture haters

Just when I imagined that the only things you ever eat are sarma and gibanica washed down with solid amount of rakija.
Crow 154 | 9,004
9 May 2020 #338
Yesterday were `cevapcici`. For Easter was `sarma`. Gibanica (diminutive `giba`) as fast food during business trips. One small glass of `rakija` in the morning to eradicate germs and eventually corona.
Torq
9 May 2020 #339
One small glass of `rakija` in the morning to eradicate germs and eventually corona.

Ha, ha - you listen to Batko Lukashenka too much, Crow. :) To eradicate coronavirus the alcohol concentration in your body would have to be about 65%, and whilst coronavirus might survive it, you certainly wouldn't.
OP jon357 74 | 22,060
10 May 2020 #340
Yes, frau Merkel changed face of Germany forever.

She's certainly the closest thing to a leader of the free world right now.
Crow 154 | 9,004
10 May 2020 #341
@jon357

It does not change fact that Germany works against Serbia and that Serbia retaliates.

Spot what is EU. But never mind. Ottomans and A-H also provoked. And Sultan and Archduke learned.

EU is a scum organization.

New York Times news

Serbia Protests EU Description of Tesla as Famous Croat
nytimes.com/aponline/2020/05/09/world/europe/ap-eu-serbia-croatia-tesla.html

Serbia's culture minister has demanded an apology from the EU

Deutsche Welle news

Serbia asked EU to apologize over presenting Nikola Tesla as Croat
dw.com/en/serbia-protests-eus-fake-description-of-nikola-tesla-as-croatian/a-53380785

Foreign Minister Ivica Dacic said he had sent a protest note to Brussels

OP jon357 74 | 22,060
10 May 2020 #342
Serbia Protests EU Description of Tesla as Famous Croat

Duck Soup from the Balkans...

And EU approval ratings in Poland are still very high...
Crow 154 | 9,004
10 May 2020 #343
Don`t underestimate Poles. They want to be free. EU can`t even dream to compete with Racowie in Poland. Just wait.
KorkiTaczer - | 114
10 May 2020 #344
And EU approval ratings in Poland are still very high...

And approval ratings for the opposition are very low... can you dwell on that?
OP jon357 74 | 22,060
10 May 2020 #345
And approval rating

The thread's about the EU; and as you were told, approval ratings for the EU are high in Poland.
Crow 154 | 9,004
10 May 2020 #346
The thread's about the EU

Do you say it must be pro-EU?

I understand that Poles rapidly becoming disappointed with the EU.
OP jon357 74 | 22,060
10 May 2020 #347
understand that Poles rapidly

The stats don't bear that out. However much you would like them to.

Do you say it must be pro-EU?

No, however the vast majority of Poles certainly are.
KorkiTaczer - | 114
10 May 2020 #348
The thread's about the EU

results can be interpreted as an indicator of concern about the policies of the PiS junta

You silly little man, you start eating your own tail. But do whatever you want its a free country...
OP jon357 74 | 22,060
10 May 2020 #349
More trolling from a PiS supporter.
KorkiTaczer - | 114
10 May 2020 #350
More trolling

Please stop trolling already.
OP jon357 74 | 22,060
10 May 2020 #351
There you go again; and it doesn't make the slightest bit of difference to the high level of support within Poland for the EU...
KorkiTaczer - | 114
10 May 2020 #352
There you go again

You contradict yourself... again. Its hard to argue with somebody who, as you say, keeps proving that 'that black is white and white is black'. You just want to keep your BS on top of the 'conversation' without taking into account other opinions...
OP jon357 74 | 22,060
10 May 2020 #353
You contradict yourself

In your 'mind'/

Its hard to argue

In your case, evidently you find it so.
KorkiTaczer - | 114
10 May 2020 #354
In your 'mind'

No, in what you wrote earlier...

In your case, evidently you find it so

Evidently, you act as a party clown currently working for PO... an ordinary agitator...
OP jon357 74 | 22,060
10 May 2020 #355
No, in what

You still don't quite get it...
Spike31 3 | 1,811
11 May 2020 #356
Eastern European states sense opportunity in German court ruling

"The ECJ [European Court of Justice] warned that the block's legal order may be in jeopardy"

"Ursula Van der Leyen (...) said that Brussels was considering legal action against Germany

"Experts fear courts in other countries will also start taking shots at the ECJ"

ft.com/content/45ae02ab-56d0-486e-bea5-53ba667198dc

I think I was a bit of a pessimist when I said that the EU will not survive the next 20 years. The situation is much more optimistic and it may not survive the next decade.

PS: I like the title of this thread. It is so sarcastic. Good job jon357
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,865
11 May 2020 #357
The situation is much more optimistic and it may not survive the next decade.

I wonder how that would come to pass....

Will there be a session by the commission who all parties declare to part ways at an agreed set date??? :)
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
11 May 2020 #358
Evidently, you act as a party clown currently working for PO... an ordinary agitator...

It's very easy to spot paid PiS activists, because they always accuse others of doing what they do themselves.
cms neuf 1 | 1,812
11 May 2020 #359
I think I preferred it when Polonius was around - at least he tried to justify what PiS were doing, not just harp on about things that happened 10 years ago

It's possible to be appalled by PiS but not to have any love for PO either
mafketis 37 | 10,911
11 May 2020 #360
at least he tried to justify what PiS were doing, not just harp on about things that happened 10 years ago

To be fair, he did harp on irrelevant issues about things that had happened years before as well, but he was also capable of expressing (simulating?) a real kind of... enthusiasm for PiS and JK that no one else has managed.

The big supporters now seem embarrassed and pretend they don't support PiS while repeating their party line and yammering on about irrelevant issues from 10 years ago...


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