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Pole-basher Gross up to old tricks


sun
17 Sep 2015 #271
Another western scholar with the Gross' mind:

the Nazis knew that Poland, with its deeply entrenched anti-Semitism, was arguably the only place under its control that would accept such an extermination centre.

This innate anti-Semitic world view was ultimately why the Nazis located extermination centres in Poland.

DR KEVIN McCARTHY

belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/letters/poles-cant-deny-role-in-auschwitz-31529293.html

Do you agree?
Ironside 53 | 12,426
17 Sep 2015 #272
scholar

Scholar? If Brothers Grimm were scholars ......no not even then.
Harry
17 Sep 2015 #273
the Nazis knew that Poland, with its deeply entrenched anti-Semitism, was arguably the only place under its control that would accept such an extermination centre.

What an ignorant fool that man is. There was just as much, if not more, violent anti semitism than in Poland in Ukraine (as it shown by the number of Ukrainian trigger-men during the holocaust) and in Lithuania (as shown by the participation of Lithuanian collaborators during the holocaust there). The reason that the majority of the Nazi death camps were in Poland (they weren't all in Poland, Trostinets certainly wasn't) was that was were most of Europe's Jews were and in the places where there were all large numbers they weren't sufficiently concentrated to make transporting them to camps a viable prospect, so they were just shot near where they lived.
Lyzko 45 | 9,444
17 Sep 2015 #274
You mean the Brothers Grimm, Ironside!
LOL
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,148
17 Sep 2015 #275
Ironside, do YOU understand the meaning of historical revisionism?? Of course the Poles don't want Gross' research to come to light, as it's clearly a source of wounding shame to all but the most intransigent of anti-Semites.

Apparently you don't know "works" of this guy. Have his research:

- 200-250 (allegedly) thousand Jews managed to stay outside (escaped from) ghettos.
- 40 thousand remained in PRL after the war.

Therefore, says Gross, Poles killed 160-210 thousand Jews... this is horseshyt, not any research. Dude is not "a Polish historian researching dark chapters of Polish history" but a friggin David Duke of Polonophobia.
Ironside 53 | 12,426
17 Sep 2015 #276
Therefore, says Gross, Poles killed 160-210 thousand Jews... this is horseshyt, not any research. Dude is not "a Polish historian researching dark chapters of Polish history" but a friggin David Duke of Polonophobia.

He is writing stories people want to hear. He belongs to ideology that claims that gender is a question of perspective, differences between men and women a socials artificial construct of patriarchal restrictive society and the truth do not exists.

What harm is there in writing fairy stories about evil Poles if that what people what to hear because they feel that way.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
17 Sep 2015 #277
Do you agree?

The Polish Ambassador to the UK certainly doesn't.

twitter.com/evagrosman/status/644530515467456513

I'm shocked that they would publish something like that without even including a basic disclaimer that it's just an opinion and not the view of the editorial staff.
Harry
17 Sep 2015 #278
- 40 thousand remained in PRL after the war.

No, that isn't what he said. Why do you keep lying about what he said?
Lyzko 45 | 9,444
17 Sep 2015 #279
Just maybe when certain events in history or people are demonized, it's for a good reason. 'Really think that Jews enjoy drumming up quasi-sympathy twenty-four seven??! We have better things to do with our time:-)
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,148
18 Sep 2015 #280
when certain events in history or people are demonized, it's for a good reason.

Undoubtedly :)))) Be careful, you are revealing too much !!!

We have better things to do with our time:-)

Apparently some of you... don't :)))
Lyzko 45 | 9,444
18 Sep 2015 #281
Don't blame all Jews for the missdeeds of some, Grzegorz!! Norman Finkelstein has spoken of an "Auschwitz industry", an alleged attempt to turn the Holocaust into a sort of sympathy factory. That's practically as grotesque and revolting as those who have tried to scam the legitimate memory of survivors and the their families by publishing fake stories of their own experiences.

Both are horrid, but don't let's throw the baby out with the bathwater:-) Valid recounts of what happened must be preserved in the collective conscience FOREVER!!!
Ironside 53 | 12,426
18 Sep 2015 #282
Valid recounts

You surly mean verified accounts.

Don't blame all Jews for the missdeeds of some

All what Poles hear are very laud voices of those Jews who are accusing Poles of things. Maybe it is time for those other Jews to step up and tell those of their compatriots who behave disregardful to shut it?

Otherwise it is easer to blame the whole lot!
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
18 Sep 2015 #283
All what Poles listen to are the few voices of those Jews who are accusing Poles of things.

Corrected it for you.
Lyzko 45 | 9,444
18 Sep 2015 #284
@Ironside, old fellow, if I'd meant "verified" (prawdziwe) I'd have written it, believe me. I meant "valid" in the sense of "legitimate":-)

Before you leap on a questionable word choice in one of my posts, the word choice errors in yours would fill a page, sir!
LOL


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