during Sarmatism was most certainly better
Everything was better duting Sarmatism. :D
Poland - A True Bastion and Defender of Free Speech
Everything was better duting Sarmatism. :D
Don`t worry. We will all go back to the original factory settings. To the default.
They were raised during the PRL and are not taken seriously by anyone born after 1990.
Those are sad clowns and mental midgets, especially those who were in their 20s' in 1981, as all the hard-core Poles were either killed, imprisoned, or forced to emigrate.
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No genuine Pole talks about Tuwim.
That subject is pulled out by the old commies with their lectures on Jews, bad Polish nationalism, and other commie BS nonsense.
They are intellectual zeros as they do not know any better. Pitful fools!
Polamd
5 Jan 2024 #214
Considering how many accounts have been banned from this forum and Reddit for speaking the truth, and the fact it is illegal in Poland to criticize Jews, it is far from a "bastion of free speech".
In Germany, it's been illegal to belittle either the Holocaust or Hitler either in public
or even within earshot at work for at least fifty years, maybe longer! Even an innocent
tourist has just bought themselves a pretty fine, depending upon the deemed severity
of the remark, a wee bit of jail time.
I say, that's no more than right, considering their history.
On the surface at any rate, the US does in fact allow people to
say what they wish in public. Yet, with all this flap regarding free speech
at various American universities, I'm not so sure any more.
At least, if somebody blurts out on the street in broad daylight something positive about
the Nazis, presumably all they'd receive would be a dozen or so mega-dirty looks and
some choice invectives from passers by.
or even within earshot at work for at least fifty years, maybe longer! Even an innocent
tourist has just bought themselves a pretty fine, depending upon the deemed severity
of the remark, a wee bit of jail time.
I say, that's no more than right, considering their history.
On the surface at any rate, the US does in fact allow people to
say what they wish in public. Yet, with all this flap regarding free speech
at various American universities, I'm not so sure any more.
At least, if somebody blurts out on the street in broad daylight something positive about
the Nazis, presumably all they'd receive would be a dozen or so mega-dirty looks and
some choice invectives from passers by.
And that's why the US is still an unmatched gold standard of free speech.
Europe's free speech laws with their asterisks and disclaimers are a bad joke.
The main reason for the First Amendment was to protect hateful and offensive speech - the kind that makes Euros cringe in discomfort. Good. Cringe...
Europe's free speech laws with their asterisks and disclaimers are a bad joke.
The main reason for the First Amendment was to protect hateful and offensive speech - the kind that makes Euros cringe in discomfort. Good. Cringe...
@Rich, the history of Europe evinces far more examples of
challenges to free speech compared with that of the US.
Until 9/11, we'd here remained relatively isolated from war and the
famine of the early years of the Depression is but a distant memory, in contrast
with much of Europe. Therefore, it was easy for Americans to talk in
a facile way about freedom of speech.
On the other hand, Germany endured twelve gruesome years under
the Nazis, and so even nowadays jokes about that period continue to
rub salt in an already festering wound.
challenges to free speech compared with that of the US.
Until 9/11, we'd here remained relatively isolated from war and the
famine of the early years of the Depression is but a distant memory, in contrast
with much of Europe. Therefore, it was easy for Americans to talk in
a facile way about freedom of speech.
On the other hand, Germany endured twelve gruesome years under
the Nazis, and so even nowadays jokes about that period continue to
rub salt in an already festering wound.
Wrong.
America has been involved in constant wars globally before the Great Depression (WWI) and after it (WWII, Korea, Vietnam).
Here is a much longer list: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States
Europe enjoyed great long periods of great prosperity over the centuries and in particular after WWII thanks to American investment both economically and militarily.
Europe has no excuse to be so much against freedom of speech other than its penchant for such totalitarianism learned under decades of communist regimes in the East and Socialist regimes in the West.
America has been involved in constant wars globally before the Great Depression (WWI) and after it (WWII, Korea, Vietnam).
Here is a much longer list: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States
Europe enjoyed great long periods of great prosperity over the centuries and in particular after WWII thanks to American investment both economically and militarily.
Europe has no excuse to be so much against freedom of speech other than its penchant for such totalitarianism learned under decades of communist regimes in the East and Socialist regimes in the West.
....ahemm, I'm not wrong about the fact that WWI - Desert Storm were all fought on foreign, rather than US, soil.
I omitted that.
I omitted that.
Spilling American blood and treasure (literally) overseas in any era in no way kept America in a state of isolation.
It meant trillions of dollars not invested in America's infrastructure and society.
It meant millions of American lives left scarred, disabled or dead for generation after generation.
It meant trillions of dollars not invested in America's infrastructure and society.
It meant millions of American lives left scarred, disabled or dead for generation after generation.
People who see wars only on TV and never get invoices tend to be more tolerant of them. Add to it a good dose of patriotism, "freedom and democracy" talk, and they will love any war no matter how far away...at least initially...Then those body bags and men without legs and arms...ouch...The romance is over...
True freedom means allowing for unpopular speech, even if hurtful.
However, what former Harvard Pres. Dr. Gay pitifully, indeed shamefully,
overlooked, was that there's a world of difference between criticizing any
group as opposed to calling for their destruction!
However, what former Harvard Pres. Dr. Gay pitifully, indeed shamefully,
overlooked, was that there's a world of difference between criticizing any
group as opposed to calling for their destruction!
I criticize LGBTs and want them dead or at least very far away from me.
Why so threatened by them, Rich? Unless there's something about you we don't know:-)
johnny reb 47 | 7523
7 Jan 2024 #225
It sure isn't like the old days before the sissified Liberal Woke's showed up with their political correctness is it.
Guess what, Rich. I'm not a fan of PC either! As I've said though on many occasions,
political correctness was a much needed reaction against the generational cruel labeling
of others whom those in authority felt were unworthy of dignity or respect, from school
to Church to the work world.
In the "old days", grade school teachers could smack and repeatedly abuse children
verbally. This is but one example. Surely, nobody wants to return to such times and this
I say as a parent.
political correctness was a much needed reaction against the generational cruel labeling
of others whom those in authority felt were unworthy of dignity or respect, from school
to Church to the work world.
In the "old days", grade school teachers could smack and repeatedly abuse children
verbally. This is but one example. Surely, nobody wants to return to such times and this
I say as a parent.
Why so threatened by them, Rich? Unless there's something about you we don't know:-)
I am not threatened by a dog sh*it on my front lawn but I still don't want it there.
There is a difference between moving a barrier and removing a barrier. Out of our stupid compassion, we removed all barriers. The result: big guys with big dicks can now enter women's private areas and sports only because they said: I am a woman. Not cutting, drilling, or slicing is necessary...Only the a-hole's verbal declaration.
You're rationalizing again.
It works since you have no counterargument.
In fact, no comment of any kind because you are a pacifist weasel. Not even "what you posted is not true". Just a throwaway meaningless crap...
In fact, no comment of any kind because you are a pacifist weasel. Not even "what you posted is not true". Just a throwaway meaningless crap...
johnny reb 47 | 7523
7 Jan 2024 #230
In the "old days", grade school teachers could smack and repeatedly abuse children verbally.
Yup, the little deeksters got their pants warmed up and their will broken. Boo Hoo Hoo !
Thats how they learned who was in charge and right from wrong.
Surely, nobody wants to return to such times
Why, it worked quite well for raising accountable and responsible children.
Your Liberal Woke Pacifist way doesn't seem to be working so well as now the children are suing their parents, o.d.ing on drugs and shooting their teachers and classmates.
Would you rather see them get their little feelings hurt or end up in prison or dead ?
Hey, Lyzko, what is a woman?
Also...Can a man get pregnant?
Also...Can a man get pregnant?
on the eleventh in front of the Sejm, remember
Yesterday pro-abortion happenings are to be a big failure. Some 150 activists in Warsaw showed up and as many or fewer in other cities. lol!
With its libertarian traditions, Poland has great potential to become one of the leading Slavic, European, and world countries.
Apparently, you folks rationalize something "working" by
how few complaints there were about it.
Ever occur to you brain trusts out there that maybe, just maybe,
people were deeply affected psychologically through generations
of systematic, systemic abuse, but the average person was merely
too lame brained to notice anything?
A father typically slaps his son around on a fairly regular basis and
calls the kid names. A caring neighbor who's known the guy gently
suggests that possible he's being too hard on his boy. "Ahh, whatdyya
talkin', the kid's a fighter, he can take it, yer crazy!"
Well, guess what, gang. That kid will doubtless grow up into a verbally
as well as physically abusive adult, potentially a dangerous criminal.
But noooooooby took the time to look...or care.
how few complaints there were about it.
Ever occur to you brain trusts out there that maybe, just maybe,
people were deeply affected psychologically through generations
of systematic, systemic abuse, but the average person was merely
too lame brained to notice anything?
A father typically slaps his son around on a fairly regular basis and
calls the kid names. A caring neighbor who's known the guy gently
suggests that possible he's being too hard on his boy. "Ahh, whatdyya
talkin', the kid's a fighter, he can take it, yer crazy!"
Well, guess what, gang. That kid will doubtless grow up into a verbally
as well as physically abusive adult, potentially a dangerous criminal.
But noooooooby took the time to look...or care.
Hey, Lyzko, what is a woman?
Can a man get pregnant?
Can a man get pregnant?
I fail to grasp the meaning of your idiotic remarks.
Those are not remarks, English professor. Them are questions meant to test if you are just another insane leftist.
Can a man get pregnant?
No, but every child knows that, or at least should know that.
No, ...
That would get you fired at most US news outlets and unis.
These two questions are used to test wokeness here.
Did you notice how Lyzko didn't answer either one? I am not surprised since we have a black leftist bit*ch on the Supreme Court who couldn't define a woman but has no difficulty with saying: I am the first black woman on the USSC.