Time to clean the swamp - dePiSification of Poland

When so much needs to be addressed following 8 years of PIS meddling some actions will be difficult to accept but undoing the wrongs created by PIS are necessary. This will be painful for the PIS but then again they are no longer in power and need to focus more on why they lost the election and figure out what went wrong. Their juvenile actions demonstrating at TVP just show how out of touch they are with the electorate who have now got a government that will look at the bigger picture when it comes to democracy and representation of everyone...not just a few.

I think at the moment there are two groups within PIS....the first who are normal conservatives much like those in other countries and the second who are radical crazy people who think that all that matters is to secure nice comfortable well paid jobs and think that politics is all about them and to live for the moment...I think that normal conservatives are just waiting to see what happens and having worked out why they lost will result in a PIS split between these two groups. Quite simply PIS need to figure out why no other political party wanted to join forces with them.

And at what point do I disagree with this? Proper democratic solutions such as building totalitarian states required to save democracy.

Good. I have always dreamt of giving out my last breath in beautiful circumstances of nature. hahahaha


The chairman prevents it quite successfully. Very well coz this means a further demise of those rascals. I won`t be crying after them although I like the balance in nature. They will be replaced by normal civilised conservatives, like PSL etc.

The only party boss doing any seizing communist-style is your personal lord and savior Donald Tusk.

"It's Like Martial Law" - Poland's Pro-EU Govt Seizes Public News Channels In Massive Police Raid

"Poland's public television news stations went off the air yesterday as police conducted massive raids to seize public news station TVP, with fears becoming realized that Prime Minister Donald Tusk would move quickly to crack down on press freedoms once he assumed power."

zerohedge.com/political/its-martial-law-polands-pro-eu-govt-seizes-public-news-channels-massive-police-raid

Donald Tusk is the true Saviour coz when he came back from European salons 3 years ago, he gave new hope to decent Poles who believed that PiS homo sovieticuses couldn`t be outvoted. He took over the leadership of the opposition like a true statesman. And won!!!

Amazing man!

Your personal lord and savior Donald Tusk is a Eurocrat.

His empty promises to decent Poles was a ruse to get elected under the pretense of democratic norms.

He doesn't care about Poles and Poland.

He only cares about his own power and the glory of the Eurocracy.

I hope so!!! Long live the EU and Poland in it!!!!!! Kneel down when you talk about European politics!!!!


He cares, that`s why he got so many votes and defeated those rightist bolsheviks!!!! Ha!

Poland in the EU under Tusk will be as relevant as Guam is in the United States.


Yes he does - about his own personal career and insatiable lust for power.

He only returned to Poland because there were no other unelected jobs for him to be given in the EU.

Certainly it won`t be as irrelevant as it was under PIS bolshevik regime. Ha!!!!!


His lust is nothing compared to PIS bolsheviks` lust, especially their chairman`s. Ha!!!!


bla bla bla. We can continue that table tennis exchange for hours, days, weeks. Who do you think will get bored first???? Certainly not me. You are again wasting time, like before that break. hahahaha

Poland's relevance will be reduced to being a military outpost and social landfill.

Poland will become nothing more than an expendable military buffer zone to protect the rest of the EU as well as dumping ground for millions of migrants entering the EU.

Eurocrat Tusk will make sure of that!

No, he won`t. Cheer up, life is beautiful but you must see it on your own. Give up those black thoughts and go out of your basement at last! Take a walk in the snowy park!

Geez, I thought I was the greatest Tusk hater on PF but you guys are just crazy! WTF? xD

You aren`t one, in fact; You simply don`t love him enough.

Never happened and never will in a zero-sum world. It's aways your win is my loss.


Proving again that education, stupidity, and being suicidal idiots can co-exist...See whites everywhere...

BTW, I am wondering when you will give up debating that annoying idiot...I already did.

You don`t debate me but you stil read my posts! It is unfair!!!!

Unfortunately, PiS still have their man Adrian - he just vetoed the budget bill...

businessinsider.com.pl/gospodarka/pierwsze-weto-prezydenta-andrzej-duda-blokuje-wydatki-co-jest-zagrozone/y8bbb9j

... :-/

He is provoking Tusk to arrange the Tribunal of State for that azhole called president by some.

That would require 2/3 of National Assembly votes, which Tusk doesn't have.

What to do? Adrian will keep vetoeing everything - it is now clear. :(((

Now.
How about in 6 months???? :):):)


A więc - wojna!! So, this is war!

You think about 50 PiS Sejm reps and senators will switch sides? Fat chance.

What to do? I suspected that Duda will try to torpedo the changes in judiciary or deeper EU integration, but the scoundrel has just vetoed even the budget bill. What a #@*¢%!!! :-(

Why 50? Decent Poles need 28 more MPs to overthrow the azhole`s veto in Sejm. If Konfederacja joins in, it is only 10 needed. They will be scooped from PiS who realise they are going to lose all next elections if they stick to Kaczyński. I can easily imagine 10 or more will join Hołownia and Kamysz. Tusk will arrange it, as usual.

But you were talking about putting Duda before the tribunal of state which would require 2/3 votes of Zgromadzenie Narodowe... let me do the quick maths...

0.66 x 560... that's about 370 votes, and the government has 248 in Sejm and 66 in Senat - that's 314... still about 50 votes missing. :(

Better check the sources. They need exactly 276 MPs in Sejm.

Yes, to overthrow president's veto.

But to put him before the Tribunal of State 2/3 (two thirds) of ZN votes (Sejm and Senat combined) are required, and that's about 50 votes more than the ruling coalition has.

sejm.gov.pl/prawo/konst/polski/5.htm

Art. 145, points 1 and 2.

"Prezydent Rzeczypospolitej za naruszenie Konstytucji, ustawy lub za popełnienie przestępstwa może być pociągnięty do odpowiedzialności przed Trybunałem Stanu.

Postawienie Prezydenta Rzeczypospolitej w stan oskarżenia może nastąpić uchwałą Zgromadzenia Narodowego podjętą większością co najmniej 2/3 głosów ustawowej liczby członków Zgromadzenia Narodowego na wniosek co najmniej 140 członków Zgromadzenia Narodowego."

Oops, you are right. Sorry for misunderstanding you. I must be too tired. :):):)

No probs. We are all irritated today but Adrian's antics... he is the President and I have respect for the office, but apparently he deeply misunderstands what the President's role is. :-/

An Eye for an eye.. Ashes to ashes. If Tusk misunderstood what the law/proper conduct was regarding TVP and future plans for CBA and IPN then Duda can do the same.


Stop trying to jinx poland. Do you want violence on the streets of Poland like in USA or Turkey, or Egypt, debil?

@Baboon
wpolityce.pl/swiat/675855-starcia-w-belgradzie-rannych-zostalo-30-policjantow

Do you want this in poland debilu? Then tell your side to moderate and slow down their takeover of power.

Or maybe your side should finally realise they lost the elections?

The Presidential elections? You know as in the head of state and commander in chief?