Throwing away the constitution in Poland?

I'm just waiting for PiS to overreact now, really. If these demonstrations attract anything comparable to last weekend, I can see PiS engineering some pretext to ban the marches.

Provocation is a matter of time. They are always a part of these manufactured "revolutions".

At which point it really game over for them.

Sure you do. "You" want it so much that "you" will "make" it happen.

If they can't deal with a very peaceful protest, then they deserve all they get.


Yes, any attempt to rush through late-night legislation (as is their usual tactic) will mean the end of Duda, the clown.

Why do use the hate speech against the President elected by the Polish people, foreigner ?

Isn't the correct phrase 'that cat Duda'?

Meow.

Can't post it now, but I found a cracking comparison made by Nowoczesna about how Duda lied through his teeth about the TK.

you sill do not get it do you!
There is no way thing will go back to the way they were, whoever think that is wrong.
You don't have a feel for Polish moods, you were certain that PO will win, you were wrong and I was right, look at the respective posts.

If you think that majority of people are supporting demonstrations you are wrong.
The reason I'm annoyed by your flaming here is that I don't want blood on the streets and civil war. If that happens I will personally blame you!

The writing's on the wall already for both him and the party leader he is a puppet of.

Through 8 years of PO thefts, scams, scnadals and irregularities when those at the helm were getting hefty kickbacks from their Western coporrate masters you were totally silent. Now all of a sudden when an honest and decent grouping has finally been elected you are tripping over yourself to find fault, malign, besmirch and discredit. Strange, eh?

Is that why they keep replacing ordinary people with ex-PZPR functionaries? The latest news I saw is that PKN Orlen now have an ex-PZPR member that the helm.


If there's blood on the streets and civil war, then the only person that can be blamed is Jarosław Kaczyński.

Incidentally, the latest poll shows that 72% of Poles think that Duda is a puppet of Kaczyński.

And the rest think he's his cat.

:D

My all time favourite banner. I need to think of something witty for Saturday...

Many people will be rightly blamed but I will blame you!

Instead of blaming, I'll be out there opposing.

The fact that you and the other right wingers are all talking about blood on the streets and civil war shows that you're willing to kill Poles for a political agenda.

Here's a suggestion for some demo banners:

LONG LIVE PETRU - A WESTERN BANKSTER'S DREAM COME TRUE!

JOIN OUR MARCH FOR MORE FOREIGN CONTROL OVER POLAND'S ECONOMY

EUROCRATS FOEREVER!

PiS AREN'T GONNA DISRUPT OUR PERKS & KICKBACKS

FOR A PETRU/PO/PSL COALITION GOVERNMENT!

MICHNIK HAS A MONOPOLY ON TRUTH - THE REST ARE LIARS!

A TRUE POLE HAS ONLY ONE HOMELAND -- BRUSSELS!

TOADIES OF WESTERN BIG-MONEY FORCES UNITE!

POLAND WANTS MORE WESTERN BANKS, RETAILERS AND ASSEMBLY PLANTS!


Except the PO have four times as many in their ranks - 30 just in their parliamentary club alone!
Explain that, won't you?

Merged: Professor Ludwik Turko rejects award from president Andrzej Duda

President Andrzej Duda awarded Krzyż Wolności i Solidarności (Cross of Freedom and Solidarity) to professor Ludwik Turko (Physicist).

Ludwik Turko rejected the award.

Reasons he gave:
* The president knowingly broke the rules of legal state.
* The president hasn't accepted swearing-in of the 3 legally a chosen judges of Trybunał Konstytucyjny (Constitutional Court).
* He said actions of Duda are an exceptional case of submissiveness and cynism.

This is interesting, because Turko accepted an award from the earlier president of PiS - Lech Kaczyński.

The Cross is awarded to exceptional opposition activists in the PRL (Communist) era.

Another obscure dude who play politicks as if that drama would impress anyone. It is well know that most professors are weak in the head and compromised.

The only reason he forgot to mention that he took side and probably doesn't deserve that cross anyway.

Strangers have their interests in Poland and they have their man in Poland. So, no wonder that masks now falling down and goes pressure on Duda when Poland tries to force independent policy.

Merged: Duda travels over 700 km to sign TK bill into law

Tabloid Fakt has reported President Duda interrupting his Christmas holiday in Wisła to drive to Warsaw and back again (over 700 km) to sign the TK bill into law. PO are planning to contest the law with the TK.

Merged: PiS Electoral Manifesto

Could anyone point me to this, i.e. the promises PiS made, before the election, that got them elected.

I would like to check whether PiS have a democratic mandate to change the Constitution.

They do not. They aren't even close to the number of votes needed to change the constitution.

to change the constitution, I would expect to have the Senate's approval as well...

Was it an election pledge?

Election pledges are ONLY to win elections. You should know that. In fact, one very well-known, very tired politician when asked said 'well, unless we promised the people that, we would not have won the election'.. says it all.

Once you're in - there are NO rules. This is called 'democracy'.....

You're assuming that all Petru and Schetyna lovers are unpatriotic selfish scumbags thinking only of the trough. Unless party vote discipline is enforced, some of those MPs migth rise to the occasion and show they too are decent Poles. The constitution definitely needs to be changed and de-ambiguised to prevent the kind of contradictory interpretation that now exists.

Exactly. They pretty well backtracked on all the ones that sounded worthwhile, not that there were many.

Name some! We all know you love sweeping generalisations but maybe it's high time to start backing them with concrete evidence.

Looks like it's all still getting worse:




politico.eu/article/poland-kaczynski-szydlo-tribunal-constitution-crisis/