Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland

A friend of mine is a local councillor, and he says that they all behave like that. He gave an example where one of the couple of PiS councillors read a pre-prepared text demanding action against LGBT in the gmina, and he had nothing to say when the mayor asked him for specific examples from the gmina.

The film has already caused a scandal: one of ex Defence Minister`s protegees, Mr Misiewicz, has taken a legal action against Vega because of homosexual allusions depicted in the film.

Here is a trailer. Funny scenes, some are a faithful rendition of real events and utterances.

youtu.be/jTZgRj1D0_4

For me it's surprising someone takes Vega seriously...

:):) You mean his previous films? Yes, I didn`t watch any, including all those Pitbulls. 3rd class cinema.

But his latest one might be better. We`ll see.

I don't hold my breath but let me know what you think once you do watch it :)

Well, your request is an order to me! I will watch it for you. :)

If you will I will be eternally grateful :) I needed some reliable review

Great, because I am debating whether to go see it, it will be good to have an honest opinion. I've seen a couple of clips of it and looked to be quite funny.

What makes you think my opinion will be honest? :):)

Did you hear about the latest PiS scandal? Investigation journalists found out that deputy justice minister organised a hate campaign against independent judges. He resigned but it is obvious he wasn`t doing it without the green light from his boss.

tvn24.pl/tvn24-news-in-english,157,m/polish-deputy-minister-orchestrated-trolling-against-judges-onet-pl,962578.html

According to Monday's publication by Onet.pl, the deputy minister of justice Łukasz Piebiak has "arranged and controlled a campaign" that was aimed to discredit judge Krystian Markiewicz, the head of the Polish Judges Association "Iustitia". The association has openly criticised changes made to the Polish justice system, implemented by the ruling Law and Justice party.

Will PiS ever answer for their criminal deeds?

Not as long as they keep the money flowing to their feckless voters...

Why isn't the opposition making more of the steady stream of scandals coming out?

I think they know an economic downturn is coming and don't want to be in office when that happens, they wan to see PiS squirm once they have to stop being Daddy Warbucks....

But they do. What else can they do?


Yes, possible.

The funniest thing about PiS is that those criminals really believe they can act like Putin does in Russia. They forget that Poland isn`t Russia, and you won`t hush uncomfortable irritating people with poison. Polish mess causes that sooner or later the facts will surface and dirty deeds will be revealed - don`t they realise that? Even if it is going to take another PiS term, they will be taken to court one day and then Poland will witness full denazificat.... sorry, depisification. If once Poles made a mistake with too lenient treatment of Soviet puppets/stooges after the system collapsed, we can`t afford doing it again. Poland must be cleaned off PiS neobolshevik trash to the core.

I wonder what you mean by that - expelling 5 million of the Polish population?

PiS neobolsheviks are those who rule the party or are party activists. People who vote for them are voters who were bribed by them to get a vote.

It is absolutely hilariuos that a troll farm has been set up within the Ministry of Justice and it was orchestrated by a deputy minister.

what would you do with those voters if they still insist on voting on PiS - do you have a final solution of PiS members in mind (let's get rid of all of them the PiS folk won't have anybody to vote, no?)

No one (except you) assumes that those who voted PiS once will vote for them for ever.


I think you've just smoothly moved here from an assumption that PiS are neo-bolsheviks to a very strange conclusion of some "final solution" is needed. Aren't you perheps a neo-bolshevik in its worst incarnation - a neo-stalinist?

Gumi is a Smooth Criminal in this thread. :):) He loves this role. :):)

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Why are you suggesting expelling?


Why are you suggesting final solution?

Are you sick today or sowing ferment as usual?

He is trying to sow ferment just as those functionaries at the Ministry of Justice who orchestrated a farm of trolls in the ministry did.

Notice that he is completely silent on the embarrasing subject of trolling in the Ministry, but instead tries to re-direct the thread into something else, e.g. a "final solution" against PiS members. Totally pathetic PiS trolling by Gumishu!

what do you actually know about the 'trolling' - what are the details - how exactly were judges 'destroyed' - they write about exactly one person who used internet and some other means who tried to discredit a couple of judges - how is it a troll farm ? - znaj proporcje człowieku

And I wonder what he is going to say when more facts surface, not only about troll farm but other criminal acts as well. This latest scandal seems to be the top of the iceberg. PiS guys have been involved in various dirty deeds since the very beginning of their political life - Telegraf fraud in 1990s.


It might be his historical ignorance, too. When I suggested depisification of Poland in the style of past denazification in defeated Germany, he didn`t know what it was and imagined sth like Holocaust.

No, gumi, I only meant distinguishing those truly complicit in or responsible for all PiS wrong activities, whether it is the economic failure of state studs under PiS control or flights home by top politicians with their familes or the recent scandal. I am a realist and don`t hope for declaring whole PiS a criminal organisation, that would be too beautiful. :):)


Mr Liar, speak English in an English thread and forum. :):)

I don't know how to say Znaj proporcje in English - satisfied? now buzz off

Oh, I see. I thought you forgot a human language out of sheer desperation after being cornered.


No, I will show you and others that PiS is a political mafia in fact. Octopus that destroys Poland.

cornered? how exactly? where do you have arguments against mine?

Here you are, Mr Liar:


Read the article which clearly shows it wasn`t only one troll but a whole network of them.

newsweek.pl/polska/polityka/nie-tylko-emilia-wokol-ministerstwa-sprawiedliwosci-istniala-trollerska-siatka/bklvczp

Stop twisting things, it is obvious it couldn`t be just one person.

no proofs just words - no troll farm just observers of the @Emilia in question - they claim functionairies of the Ministry of Justice were the trolls - you haven't even read the article - lot's of puff mostly

Yes, just like a few pages earlier you wrote that Kuchciński had only flown with family 7 times while it later turned out it was 23 documented flights and probably many more but PiS is hiding documents. :):)


It has even been revealed that his family were travelling by government planes alone, without him.

The same with the current scandal - documents will be destroyed and hidden so that you can say puff.

I seriously think you only read the title of the article - there are points in the article that if true could be enough to convict a couple of people (making personal data and various documents public) - but the sensationalist title is just nonsense - the title suggests some big cabalah involving hundreds of people?

Because you wouldn't want me to waste my hard-earned cash on a cinema ticket to watch a pile of crap? ;)

Just you wait and there will be hundreds of trolls, not only working in and for the Ministry of Justice. Some PiS trolling has been also discovered after elections 2015.

This one female troll seems a contrite sinner - she decided to come out on her own. How many more similar trolls will come out soon?

wyborcza.pl/7,75398,25106245,afera-u-ziobry-emilia-zabrala-glos-przepraszam-zaluje-chcialabym.html#S.DT-K.C-B.1-L.1.duzy


But people in the West have money to burn - (this is the stereotype in Poland) - contrary to Poles working hard for peanuts. :):):)