Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland

Certain priest was recognised on a dating site by his parishioners in a small village. Thanks to his unique watch, tattoos, beard and ears. He was looking there for various kinds of sex. :):):)
First the priest denied everything but later made a clean breast of it during Sunday service and left the parish to do atonement in the house for clergy in another town.
Some believers regret his departure coz he was a good priest.

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should be able to marry, at least there should be an option.

Of course, marry and have a wife or husband. Good you suggest it.

WTF? While talking about priests there is no question about so-called gay marriage. There is no gay marriages. stupid.

But you suggested the option of marriage so we thought you are opting for full service.

Better explain Tusk's lie about the quota of illegal migrants from the EU which Poland will have to take in.
at the time you were adamant that we would be exempted from that agreement. Has anything to say now? Like sorry, I was wrong. No?
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Learn English - marriage is a union between a man and a woman, with no other options.

The problem is that your definition disagrees with real life practice in major English speaking countries...... :):):):)

There is no problem. It is what I said, you are just making trouble like a classic troll. Progressive BS doesn't count.

So, you accept it can be a wife or husband for a priest???
Why are you like a cock on the roof - so changeable???

Certain female embroidery artist decorated a few dozen headrests on Polish Railways trains. She was taken to court and sentenced to a slight fine of 200 PLN and the reimbursement of damaged headrest covers replacement costs.

The wise judge, also a female, said

The headrest with embroidery could not be used any longer. It had to be removed. I took into account the artistic expression of the works. However, PKP property was a protected value. Your artistry does not tolerate the illegality of the act. However, the fact that you were not guided by the desire to destroy, but to present artistry, had an impact on the sentence, which in my opinion is mild.

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Translation - a good-for-nothing woke activist indulged in an activity at which progressives excel - destruction.
After being caught she found a court with a progressive judge who let her go with a relatively light sentence. Luckily Trump clamped down on funds for such wasters and she will have to look for a proper job.

No, it doesn`t work like that in Poland. If it did, all nationalist criminals would travel all over Poland to find "their" courts. I know you would like such a system to be the rule of law but this is Poland, not Russia, remember.

A priest who's involved in the death of a 21-year-old man in Sosnowiec is still meeting with men for sex accompanied with drugs (with no condoms too - "God will protect him", he claims 😂🤦) - he got arrested for illegal possession of drugs:

kryminalne.o2.pl/informacje/umowila-sie-z-ksiedzem-na-intymne-spotkanie-nieoczekiwany-zwrot-akcji-7212821853559744a

Polska Kościołem stoi... ;D



I wonder if they move him to another parish... Could that be called sex tourism then? ;D

Could you be called a hypocrite? When asked if homosexuals should become priests, you say they should not be discriminated against. Now you have a homosexual on the rampage, and you have a problem with him because he became a priest. Tsk tsk.

Above is a good example that selection to the priesthood should be strict, and no homosexuals should be allowed to become priests.

Don't you think she would feel the same about heterosexual priest behaving like that? That she might not be bothered by his sexuality but by his actions?

Not to mention that the numbers are plummeting for new students so hard to be selective when you have nothing to choose from...

Nonsense, you are used to modern progressive trashy semi-culture, if they are nobody to fit the standards, so be it.
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I don't care about some random woman's feelings. I care whether or not she makes sense. She doesn't.

You obviously do since you called her a hypocrite and that would only make sense if you thought she would feel differently about such actions in case of heterosexual priest. Her opinion on his actions are not based on his sexuality but what he does with it.

And she does make sense. She has certain standard of behaviour in a priest regardless of whether he is gay or straight.

As to callings - church likes it role and Influence. Hard to do if you can't keep parishes running

Nope, but the Polish Catholic Church clearly reeks of hypocrisy and what it would consider "sinfulness" :)))


Again - nope. I don't have a problem with him being a homosexual, but with him breaking his vows, apparently being a drug addict and trying to manipulate another person to have unprotected sex. That's not the type of a person that is fitting to lecture others on morality.


LOL
As if heterosexual priests weren't doing the same things! :D


Yes, I agree - no men should be allowed as priests. Only women :)))))


Of course I do make sense. You just made wrong assumptions about my comment. God knows why, considering Lenka managed to understand it correctly.

Let us establish a basic level of communication here. I obviously don't care about her feelings; otherwise, I wouldn't call her hypocritical. I called her a hypocrite because of her opinion expressed verbatim on this very forum. Is that clear now? Have you people ever heard about logic? Sometimes I doubt it.
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Maybe, but that is not my point. My point is that she was blind to defending homosexual rights to become a priest and viewing any other option as discriminatory. Now, you have living proof why such discriminatory policies are needed, and again, we can wonder about the wisdom of our ancestors and the woe modern times, we are ruled by fools and degenerates, and stupid women with feelings. lol
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Duh? The point I'm making is that homosexuals possess a more feeble or unstable mentality on average than a straight man from a proper family. Remember to save us both time and don't argue about exceptions.
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The Church is all of us. Not only clergy. Do clergy have issues? They do like everybody, so what? If you are not religious or a part of the Church, that is not a big problem nowadays. I don't understand why people who feel they are not part of the Church have so many opinions on it. After all, it is a voluntary organization.

Omg, and you call others anal? Let me rephrase:
Don't you think she would have the same opinion about heterosexual priest behaving like that?
Better? The point stays the same. Nothing to do with logic. Just semantics.


Only if we didn't have cases of heterosexual priest behaving in similar ways. We did. We have enough priest's kids to prove that.


Any data to prove that statement? Or talking through your a*se again?


Spare me that. We are clearly discussing Catholic Church as an organisation

No, it isn't. There isn't anything hypocritical about my comment. You seem to have a problem with logic yourself (just like many other right-wing men from what I've noticed :)).


That was exactly your point, liar:

"Now you have a homosexual on the rampage, and you have a problem with him because he became a priest. Tsk tsk."


And men like you call feminists "men-haters" while being women-hating morons themselves. 🤦


Any proof for that?

According to research majority of Polish priests don't follow celibacy. Are all of them homosexuals? :)))


I'm afraid Ironside is full of sh1t :) and we're just wasting our time.

Okay, I will make it short to not waste your precious time, lol. Less selective admittance policies into priesthood mean more unbecoming behaviors by priests. Homosexuality, as all deviations, is considered a risk.

No you defend homosexuals and discriminatory policies as a rule, only if they are right-wing or priests they are legitimate targets.
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I don't call all feminist men haters - stupid - I call feminism a nasty men-hating ideology. Spot the difference, smart ass.

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Apples and oranges. Percentage. Do I need to say more? Afraid of wasting your precious time. Maybe you need to cook for your man.
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Would you be able to differentiate between gold and sh't? I very much doubt it.

It's no more of a risk than letting men in general to become priests. There's always a risk that it will turn out that he's a rapist paedophile/ephebophile, a murderous sociopath, an alcoholic, a drug addict, a sex addict, etc.


No, I don't lol 🤦


That's because you're a stupid sexist.


Yes, please elaborate, because as often - you make no sense.


Yes, I would be able.

So I let you answer yourself:

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It should be - you defend so-called anti-discriminatory policies as a rule even if they make sense, like in this case.
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They are higher risk cases, as the chances are that a homosexual who becomes a priest will act out his homosexuality or even turn into an abuser of young boys. Then, a normal man from a good family.
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You are in no position to claim it. You can't be a judge in your own case. I would say big chance you would eat sh't and call it good.
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On the contrary, I know what I am saying, and I said it after careful consideration based on knowledge. You only have your gut feeling, which is not enough

The risk comes from insisting that priests hide all their sexual urges. Doing that tends to attract those who hide all their sexual urges for reasons other than being a priest (e.g. their sexual urges involve acts which are illegal).

If someone is doing that, they definitely are doing a bad job. Priests are asked to control and channel their sexual drive into some other non sexual activities.
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From accepting individuals from single-parent families, homosexuals, and similar backgrounds. There is often a higher risk of some mental deficiencies in these cases. As a result, rather than controlling and channeling their sexual urges, they may choose to hide them. This is unhealthy and leads to failure.

This really made me laugh. In a way... a very Orthodox position.

Hey, I'm just stating facts :) 💁😁


Such men usually get married and have kids instead of putting on black dresses and swearing an oath to God to have no sex ;D 😁💁


You're no authority for me though, so your opinion about me is worthless to me :) *shrugs*


No, you're talking about yourself. So far you haven't provided any proof for your claims - you're just talking out of your a$$.

You mean like in case of John Paul II?? :D 😁😂


Well, there's a risk for all kinds of professions, especially those where people work with children and teens (teachers, coaches, etc.) even though people in those professions are allowed to have sex. I think that the problem with clergy is that the Catholic Church is a dysfunctional, morally corrupt institution that has been sweeping such problems under the rug for years and protecting the sexual predators (by moving them from parish to parish instead of reporting them to the police) and hence the priesthood attracted such type of men, because they know they will be able to get away with a lot. 🤔

Being disingenuous again?

Wojtyla's mother died and children from single-parent families due to death of a spouse do about as well as the general population.

Children of single mothers who didn't want to or couldn't get married are the ones that have disprorportionate amounts of bad outcomes.

I'm not sure if there's much evidence about single unmarried fathers because that's not common enough to get much data.