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Rape and sexual abuse in Poland


jon357  73 | 23224
8 Aug 2021   #61
sleeping with an underage student is a rape (of course I'm thinking Poland here). A 14 year old

In the UK, that would be under 18, if one party is a Teacher, Youth Worker, Clergy etc. 16 normally, 18 if one party is in a position of responsibility or if money changes hands.

It happened to a guy I was at school with who became a Teacher. I'd not thought about him for years, then his face was all over the news having eloped with a pupil. She was over 16 then, and AFAIK that was one of the cases that led the government to raise the age to 18 in those situations.
Novichok  5 | 8512
8 Aug 2021   #62
In the UK, that would be under 18,

This is where the sanity ends. A17 plus 364 days, a guy gets the best bj ever and she is the "rapist" and he - the victim. Welcome to Planet Stupid.

If the case ends up with her being fired...OK. But, no, it will be investigated, tried, appealed, tried again, appealed, and eventually, the woman punished at 40 grand a year in prison while the guy will be telling his buddies how good she was that day.
johnny reb  48 | 7984
9 Aug 2021   #63
In the UK, that would be under 18 if one party is in a position of responsibility or if money changes hands.

Then old Andy is as guilty as it gets.
Prince Andrew just got sued today by a 17 year old back then claiming Andy doinked her.

msn.com/en-us/news/crime/epstein-accuser-sues-prince-andrew-citing-sex-assault-at-17/ar-AAN7LSD?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

Does anyone actually believe that he will be held accountable for it ?
Dirk diggler  10 | 4452
13 Aug 2021   #64
He probably did. Good for him.

It's a shame that dumb sloots are given so much attention and rights in the modern age.

Idk who decided it was a good idea to give women voting rights in the first place....
Novichok  5 | 8512
13 Aug 2021   #65
And they sure got even for denying them the right to destroy and kill for all those years up to that point...
johnny reb  48 | 7984
13 Aug 2021   #66
The Feminists goal is to convert little boys into little girls so there is no opposition.
Strzelec35  19 | 830
13 Aug 2021   #67
i dont get how that prince dude from the UK can even be charged or sued for faqing a legal in the UK chick past its age of consent laws? just because she wasn't p0rn age legal or USA age legal how can he be sued for not breaking his country's laws? he didn't do p0rn with her.

by the way i just came back from Bulgaria a country with 14 as the official age of consent and got rejected by everyone including a Russian cougar and a shitload of polish teens around 16-18 who preferred to be rubbed up behind them out of the blue by krauts.
johnny reb  48 | 7984
9 Sep 2021   #68
Prince Andrew just bolted 500 miles to his mommy's getaway in Scotland to avoid being served papers for the hearing about his role with Epstein pedophile club of under aged girls.

That sounds like something a guilty scum would do.
johnny reb  48 | 7984
21 Sep 2021   #69
I think it is starting to get warm under Andy's collar.
Prince Andrew was served with legal papers in a civil sexual assault case against him when the senior British royal's lawyer was sent the suit on Monday.

The US court documents show the legal papers were delivered to the duke's lawyer, Andrew B. Brettler, at the law firm of Lavely and Singer in Los Angeles.

The court document also shows legal papers being delivered to the Royal Courts of Justice in London on Monday.
Andy stands accused of sexual assault by Virginia Roberts Giuffre, who is suing the prince in New York.
How embarrassing for the Royal family.
Cargo pants  3 | 1443
21 Sep 2021   #70
civil sexual assault case

Watch the case will be settled in cpl of years for undisclosed money.

How embarrassing for the Royal family

No embarrassment,happens all the time except it was exposed this time.
pawian  221 | 26014
1 Jul 2024   #71
A large majority in the Sejm, the more powerful lower house of parliament, has approved a change to Poland's rape law that would make it a crime to engage in sexual intercourse without the consent of the other person.

The current law - which dates back to 1932 - defines rape as an act that "subjects another person to sexual intercourse by force, unlawful threats or deception". It does not specify lack of consent as a criterion.

That has resulted in rulings such as one in 2020 in which a man was acquitted of raping a 14-year-old girl because the judge accepted his argument that the fact she did not scream during the act meant that the perpetrator did not use violence.


notesfrompoland.com/2024/06/28/polish-parliament-approves-new-rape-law-making-sex-without-consent-a-crime/

Good change. At last.

How will the consent be granted? In a text message, for example. Simple.
Torq  8 | 955
1 Jul 2024   #72
In a text message, for example. Simple.

Total lack of romanticism.

It should be obligatory to have it written on perfumed parchment in a rose garden with birds chirping all around. The recording of birds chirping in lossless audio format (e.g. flac) will have to be provided before the court of law.
pawian  221 | 26014
1 Jul 2024   #73
Total lack of romanticism.

New generations are like that.

have it written on perfumed parchment in a rose garden with birds chirping all around.

That`s for grandpa boomers like us.
Torq  8 | 955
1 Jul 2024   #74
grandpa boomers like us

Hey, I'm GenX (almost a Millennial) but still the total lack of romanticism of it all depresses me. Imagine a woman having to text...

"I Magdalena N. hereby permit Sylwester Z. to go all the way to the 3rd base. Anything beyond that will be considered rape."

... or something along those lines. Before she stops typing all the magic of the moment will be gone. :-/
pawian  221 | 26014
1 Jul 2024   #75
the magic of the moment will be gone. :-/

Magic or prison - the choice is yours!

Hey, I'm GenX (almost a Millennial)

You are still a boomer to Gen Z.
Lenka  5 | 3540
1 Jul 2024   #76
I wonder where people get that **** from?
Most women find no joy in accusing men of rape. Similarly most men do not want to rape women.

The fact that we simply have to realise that a victim can freeze and not even dream about a physical defence is a well known thing. Yet it's been used as a defence for rapists.
Torq  8 | 955
1 Jul 2024   #77
Anyways, the two geniuses - Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie - predicted all this already in the early 1990s...



I wonder where people get that **** from?

Hey, don't blame me - Pawian started with his brilliant text message idea. *rolls eyes*
Barney  18 | 1696
1 Jul 2024   #78
@Lenka
Rapists will use any old sh1t to avoid prosecution and are helped by antiquated laws written by men with fossilised thinking. This change is a good thing.
pawian  221 | 26014
1 Jul 2024   #79
predicted all this already in the early 1990s...

No, the famous cartoonist Mleczko had been earlier when he produced this cartoon in 1970s.

Two people no longer in their first youth are sitting at a table.
An older gentleman says:
-Let's get to the point, Mrs. Majewska. I would like to have a sexual intercourse with you.

written by men

Exactly. Patriarchal laws need to be abolished.
Lenka  5 | 3540
1 Jul 2024   #80
It is. Thankfully times change.
Ironside  50 | 12488
1 Jul 2024   #81
People and human nature don't.
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antiquated laws written by men with fossilised thinking.

Typical arguments of the left when they do not have any arguments, we like it this way it means, we are progressive and we know better because we are bright, educated clever, and lovely. Sadly everything they say is a lie.
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Patriarchal laws need to be abolished.

Nope, those laws need to be restored and socialist crap tainted with Marxist heresy eradicated.
Barney  18 | 1696
1 Jul 2024   #82
Typical arguments of the left when they do not have any arguments,

Thats contradictory.
pawian  221 | 26014
1 Jul 2024   #83
those laws need to be restored and socialist crap eradicated.

That`s a desperate but completely futile call. You can`t contain progress.
Ironside  50 | 12488
1 Jul 2024   #84
That's contradictory.

'argument' - it should be read as a typical prattle of the left ... I guess I wanted to be funny and witty like pawian - sorry,
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You can`t contain progress.

When progress is not progress?
pawian  221 | 26014
1 Jul 2024   #85
When progress is not progress?

Progress which gives more rights to women can`t be no progress. Simple.
Barney  18 | 1696
1 Jul 2024   #86
@Ironside
No problem.
Ironside  50 | 12488
1 Jul 2024   #87
When progress is not progress?

When it leads to downfall and destruction. There is a certain adage a very ancient one that hasn't lost its importance as human nature has not changed - Ye shall know them by their fruits.
Barney  18 | 1696
1 Jul 2024   #88
Ye shall know them by their fruits.

And its very fruitful to enshrine consent in law.
pawian  221 | 26014
1 Jul 2024   #89
Ye shall know them by their fruits.

You shouldn`t quote the holy verses if you are a nationalist with the propensity for murder. It is simply indecent.
Ironside  50 | 12488
1 Jul 2024   #90
if you are

Is that a big IF? If you attack me ad hominem, does it mean you conceded defeat and admitted to being a plank?
As usual, you are shallow and boring and present no challenge. Go and shine your bald head and stop pretending you are some poor monkey just because you envy those poor animals' fuzz.
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