President Duda rules out homo marriage in Poland as banned by the constitution

for the same reason that doesn't state that marriage between a man and a dog shall be under the protection of the state or between a women and her son or between a man and a child. Based on an obvious assumption that when one talk about marriage its pertain exclusively about act between a man and a woman.

Now you can introduce any HS and call it law.


Which is pretty meaningless as long as their parents think that it is the best thing since sliced bread.

Sodomy though contradicts ALL known religious teaching, the Bible, Koran, Bhagavagida etc.. Any holy book will disavow such relations between humans and animals.

Gay marriage therefore, obviously doesn't fall under that category!

I think you mean 'bestiality' aka 'zoophilia'.... animals cannot consent.


Find some parents that think that and get back to us.

That too, Maf, oh, yes!

More of blatant backwardness the precise reason Poland is losing its reputation as a decent democracy. Someone says gay....backwatd village idiot equates this to screwing a dog. Dumb much?

No one is losing any reputation. Liberal loonies such as yourself are being laughed at more and more often. Aren't you smart enough to even notice?

I am not liberal and definately are lising reputation.

He didn't say "homo die", stop lying.


That is only your opinion which has no credibility here.


Yesterday I called my mate at work "paki" and to be exact I said "Shut up you raghead dumb paki", I know that it's alien thing in your progressive bubble where you all suck each other's d1cks with highest level of political correctness but there are easygoing people out there who have a lot of fun in their lives, you however will never experience anything like it.

it's not OK Wulkan. Perhaps it was just 'banter' , but if someone overheard you, and reported you to HR, you WOULD lose your job.

Or you might find one day that your 'mate' has had enough of it.

It was

Well I would have less banter if I were you.

This isn't Poland this is the UK and you are very lucky that someone hasn't reported you. Not that I'm against calling someone a Paki or a dumb Polack and the other guy may have laughed it off, but someone else might not and you might get yourself sacked.

I wouldn't make a habit of it.

Care to quote me saying that? Or are you just falling back to your default position of lying about what somebody said when you aren't able to argue against what they do say? Either quote me saying that or show us you were lying.

The simple fact is that 'die' is not a slur; when used the way Polly used it is a homophobic slur.


Now we know you're back in the realms of fantasy.


Yep, absolutely guaranteed instant dismissal. A British employee would probably get fired for calling a gay man 'homo', but calling a Pakistani 'Paki' is an absolutely nailed on firing. Sadly here at PF it's entirely accepted.

Compared to most other central & eastern Europeans, Poles have no real issue about homosexuality. Like any other sexual habits - "in private" is the catchword. Compared to the United States, an unmarried single male over 35 has way more respect in Poland then he does in the US - regardless of sexual orientation (which in Poland is nobodies business, but in the US, they'll dig till they find out!). Still to this day, rabidly hetero males doing hiring (the majority, btw) will eschew a male over 35 who does not have "lady in arms." In Poland I've almost never seen it. I call it the "mind your own business" issue. Bi and "gay" sites in Poland (for real men, not clowns) are very discrete - just the way it should be. Americans can't grasp that stuff. The neo-Puritans want to know EVERYTHING about you, and if they don't know for sure - they'll make it up.

Oh we grasp it just fine because most of us here in the U.S. have been brought up in Christian families that teach morals.

Being gay is not a sin however practicing the sex acts that go with it are.
Poland is a conservative Christian Country that does not approve of homosexuality no matter how much you try to justify it..

That's what you meant by giving example "homo die" as a slur or maybe you want to say you didn't give that example?


That would be your default position, well know to every member of this forum.


wrong, he used it normal way or perhaps you want to prove he wanted to insult somebody? Remember that personal opinion is not a proof.


You need to explain us what you mean because we have problems following you when you are on drugs or whatever you take.


It would be dismissal if a pussy like you said it, the things are different if you are respected around people and then you can loosen up quite a bit.


Indeed, I didn't like that either when mod didn't do anything when you started using "paki" word in this topic.

Wulkan, I can only think that you have missed the many trolling threads Polonius starts if you think this. In his opening post he refers to ' gay marriage', so why not in the title? Polly is the master of trolling threads, and he knew full well what he was doing in choosing ' homo' as opposed to 'gay'. He knows exactly the reaction that choice of word will cause, and he's been proved right. These days it is not normal to use that word, and had he used gay in the title instead, apart from the fact that he constantly seems to focus on LGBT issues, nothing much would have been said. He used it to troll and provoke on a thread which isn't actually 'news' at all.

He definitely knew that Harold's oversensitive asss was going to bleed.

So if I'll call a straight guy "hetero" I am insulting him? Or only homos are so sensitive and have double standards?

Wulkan hasn't missed that at all; Wulkan is just trolling, as is shown by his attempt at defending Polly's homophobic slur. And by his attempt at boasting about how he supposedly called one of his colleagues at work a "paki". And by his off-topic ad hom trolling calling me a "pussy".


Nail and head right there. It's a real pity that PF has fallen so far and so fast, but at least now people who find this place by chance know as soon as they see the first page that this is a place where homophobic slurs are entirely acceptable and they can just make their own assessment about whether or not to read any further.

It's a Libeal's game of this generation to be "Politically Correct" so they can shove their agenda down your throat without you being able to defend yourself as in this case.

That is why President Trump is steam rolling the Liberals, he is not Politically Correct and refuses to play their game.
So when you stick to your guns and call a homo a homo the Liberals will then start calling YOU NAMES like red neck, illiterate, trailer trash, uneducated.........


EXACTLY !

So I think it all boils down to that Pol just refuses to be brow beat by the Liberal Politically Correct Progressive Whiners.
Homo marriage in Poland will not be tolerated is the massage.
Now if Pol would have said "Faggot Marriage is banned in Poland", that may be considered a slur.


So, So what, no different in you calling me a Yank is it or are we back to double standards again ?

President Duda has called for a constitutional referendum next year, marking the 100th anniversary of Poland's regained independence in 1918
"Poles have a right to say whether the constitution, which has been in force for 20 years, should be changed," Duda said during events marking the 3 May Constitution Day celebrations in Warsaw.

The current constituion was forced through when former high-level communist leader leader Aleksander Kwaśniewski was president and the government was under a pre-PO/post-KOR coalition. The 1997 constitution's imprecise formulations have resutled in many needless squbbles and excessive national polarisaiton.

"It's time for a serious constitutional debate, not just with politicians but with the whole of the nation," Duda said.

It's just hot air. Duda knows fine well that he's heading for defeat in 2020 unless they can change the Constitution to rig a PiS victory in 2019. It might also be a way to eliminate the State Tribunal so that he can avoid punishment for his wrongdoing.

More to the point, opinion polls show that only 35% of Poles want a new Constitution.

Since when is more than 1/3rd of people "only"?

In a binary choice, 35% means a loss.

@delphiandomine
Your only implies it's not many. It is quite many indeed.

not enough to change the constitution legally, but then when has PiS ever cared about the law? it's all about using the frustration of losers to build a base to rob them blind while blaming on other people

As far as I know the referendum doesn't involve marriage equality.

As far as i kno you dunno noting about Poland. Heck you can't even speak Polish.

Sorry folks, that was 20 years ago and I was recreating things from memory. I thought the AWS-UW coalition was then in power, but Wiaodmości said tonight that when the post-communist 1997 constittuion was adopted ex-PZPR operative Włodzimierz Cimoszewicz was PM. Incidentally, his father was a Belorusian in the Red Army and NKVD and after the war was personally involved in liqiuidating former AK members.

He only announced it several horus ago. I doubt if anyone has already managed to run a survey and compile and announce the results that swiftly. Anything to bash the good change, eh Delph?!