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A good day for animals, fur trade and ritual slaughter banned / limited in Poland


dolnoslask 6 | 3,541
14 Oct 2020 #1
No more breeding of animals for fur and ritual slaughter will only be allowed for national consumption.

polsatnews.pl/wiadomosc/2020-10-14/piatka-dla-zwierzat-senat-decyduje/?ref=aside_najnowsze

Great day for animal welfare , maybe other nations will follow Poland's lead.
jon357 66 | 17,040
14 Oct 2020 #2
Great day for animal welfare

This is good news and a small but significant step in the right direction.

Now to tackle factory farming, especially of larger mammals.
OP dolnoslask 6 | 3,541
14 Oct 2020 #3
Maybe especially now that the public can see exactly what an epidemic does to a nations health and GDP, many diseases are associated with intensive farming of livestock , especially the concern over the use of frontline antibiotics.
cms neuf 1 | 1,852
14 Oct 2020 #4
I'm trying hard to cut out factory farmed meat but it's not easy in Poland
pawian 176 | 14,299
14 Oct 2020 #5
many diseases are associated with intensive farming of livestock

So, what do you propose? There are more and more people on the planet. And the Chinese earn better and better. Tell them to skip meat and get back to a bowl of pure rice.
cms neuf 1 | 1,852
14 Oct 2020 #6
Well people can eat what they want - if that's factory farmer meat then that's a personal decision.
OP dolnoslask 6 | 3,541
14 Oct 2020 #7
Tell them to

I'm not telling them anything, all nations can make their own choices , historically meat from large animals was not eaten in such large quantities as it is today.

If you ever spent anytime in China you would see they eat a very wide variety of foods, including toads, grasshoppers snakes etc.

It would do us all good if we ate more vegetables, the UK during the war managed on a small ration of meat, people were healthier for it.
pawian 176 | 14,299
14 Oct 2020 #8
historically meat from large animals was not eaten in such large quantities as it is today.

Correct. But people lived shorter, too.

including toads, grasshoppers snakes etc.

And bats.

the UK during the war managed on a small ration of meat, people were healthier for it.

And sources for that?
Mr Grunwald 29 | 2,014
14 Oct 2020 #9
@dolnoslask
That is utter rubbish, humans mainly ate meat (hunting wild animals) using fur for clothes and tents. Only during warm times it was that fruits, vegetables were eaten.

I have been eating mainly meat and fish for the last year with only a few vegetables and no carb filled rice/pasta/bread (Sunday's an exception for obvious reasons)

I have never been as healthy as I am now a days I feel very good. It has healed my body and helped with fasting as well! Importantly wild meat or quality meat should be consumed
OP dolnoslask 6 | 3,541
14 Oct 2020 #10
And sources for that?

Call your self a teacher and you don't know this fact!!!!

Google this and take your pick of sources "people ate healthier during wwii"
pawian 176 | 14,299
14 Oct 2020 #11
humans mainly ate meat (hunting wild animals) using fur for clothes and tents

Nope, that concerned only early prehistoric hunters-gatherers. Later humans started agricultural production and plant food became more popular.

I have never been as healthy as I am now a days I feel very good

Yes, but it is today, What if bad compounds from excessive meat consumption accumulate in your body for years and cause a premature death at 50?

take your pick of sources "people ate healthier during wwii"

Usually when people shun providing sources it means they weren`t sincere. :):)
jon357 66 | 17,040
14 Oct 2020 #12
humans mainly ate meat (hunting wild animals) using fur for clothes and tents

They also worshipped the weather, painted themselves with wode and lived in caves. I'd not recommend any of that (except maybe the first).

The Japanese are among the healthiest nations in the world and they only eat meat very sparingly.
Mr Grunwald 29 | 2,014
14 Oct 2020 #13
@pawian
Could you enlighten us how long humankind were hunter&gatherers?
pawian 176 | 14,299
14 Oct 2020 #14
Hmm, First Agricultural Revolution took place 11.700 years ago. First civilisations which resulted from the revolution originated 8500 years ago. Why?
Mr Grunwald 29 | 2,014
14 Oct 2020 #15
When did human kind start to exist Pawian? How many years has human body been accustomed to vegetables vs meat? The body is meant to function best while eating meat, not vegetables.
jon357 66 | 17,040
14 Oct 2020 #16
If anything, it's oily fish that led to hominids becoming homo sapiens.

And then we evolved the skill of farming and our diet became better.

In late 2019 I came back from 3 years in a country in Africa with an almost entirely meat-based diet. Hardly any vegetables at all. The average male life expectancy there is around 58.
pawian 176 | 14,299
14 Oct 2020 #17
The body is meant to function best while eating meat, not vegetables.

It depends on your blood type. I am A and thrive on fruit and veg, indeed. While 0 people can eat meat without any limits. Are you 0?

health.harvard.edu/blog/diet-not-working-maybe-its-not-your-type-2017051211678

Therefore, your remark

How many years has human body been accustomed to vegetables vs meat?

is a nice but failed attempt. It could be valid if not for blood types which underwent modification when people started farming on a large scale.

a country in Africa with an almost entirely meat-based diet. Hardly any vegetables at all.

Wow! How is it possible? You probably mean Ethiopia - they love raw meat.
OP dolnoslask 6 | 3,541
14 Oct 2020 #18
Meat is not the same these days , it is best to limit your consumption, there are many issues , one biggy for me is that animals can be injected by all sorts of veterinary products and are sent to slaughter without the prescribed waiting times.

Human kind should make an effort lo limit meat consumption , it would be good for the people and the planet.

The body functions best on a balanced diet and that includes vegetables.

I am not a veggie , just for the record.
Mr Grunwald 29 | 2,014
14 Oct 2020 #19
Interesting, I will check it out

(I got no clue about my bloodtype)
pawian 176 | 14,299
14 Oct 2020 #20
I have known my blood type since I was a boy - I even had it stamped in my old commie identity card which I got at 18. And I have always loved fruit, veg, beans, kasha, seafood, etc etc.



Mr Grunwald 29 | 2,014
14 Oct 2020 #21
@pawian
I haven't visited the hospital enough to even have to bother remembering it ;)
pawian 176 | 14,299
28 Oct 2020 #22
Great day for animal welfare , maybe other nations will follow Poland's lead.

No, they won`t coz PiS panicked after farmers` protests and is going to send the unpassed law to the so called "freezer." meaning it won`t be discussed in the Parliament for years.


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