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Poland's post-election political scene


Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
28 Jan 2016 #751
.........who states that refugees "bring diseases....."

Three guesses who spoon fed them that racist nonsense

Utter nonsense as usual. He said a "master of the obvious" kind of thing that allowing people from the 3rd world to just walk in without checking them, including no medical tests, create many risks, including epidemiological ones. You lefty propagandists have no shame.
jon357 66 | 17,078
28 Jan 2016 #752
Three guesses who spoon fed them that racist nonsense :)

Bingo. Absolute nonsense and they don't quite understand that most people (in the capital, anyway) realise that very well.
poganin - | 58
28 Jan 2016 #753
Kaczynski has never mentioned anything about his sexuality, never tried to hide it or flaunt it or give an impression that he is gay or straight, so why anyone reaches a conclusion that he is gay? If anything he can be looked at as a straight man since he is married (not that it is concrete proof of sexual orientation but more indicative of heterosexuality than homosexuality).
mafketis 24 | 9,387
28 Jan 2016 #754
Jarosław K has never been married or publicly linked with any female partner (unless you count whatever was going on with Jolanta Szczypińska - who always looked delighted when he was embarassed in public...)
poganin - | 58
28 Jan 2016 #755
He lived together with women under one roof long enough to regard it as marriage, good enough to me. Was Lech Kaczynski gay to you as well?
mafketis 24 | 9,387
28 Jan 2016 #756
He lived together with women under one roof long enough to regard it as marriage, good enough to me

Which women would those be? I don't care whether or not he's gay (I actually lean toward thinking of him as asexual, he's into power, not people).

Was Lech Kaczynski gay to you as well?

I would highly doubt that LK was gay.
poganin - | 58
28 Jan 2016 #757
I would highly doubt that LK was gay.

If Lech was not gay then Jaroslaw would also not be gay. Learn about studies on identical twins, their genetic make up (around 99.9% similarity) and the sexuality (based mostly on genetics). If one identical twin was not gay according to you then the other is not gay either. There end of story!
delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
28 Jan 2016 #758
Was Lech Kaczynski gay to you as well?

Strange, I thought he was supposed to be a devout Catholic. Does that mean that he was living in sin? Disgraceful.

Incidentally, I see that they've finally found his long lost thesis.
poganin - | 58
28 Jan 2016 #759
You skipped what I wrote above but others will read it so your effort to discredit me is pointless. You do not know how to converse so you manipulate but it does not work.
Harry
28 Jan 2016 #760
He lived together with women under one roof long enough to regard it as marriage

The Dear Leader Chairman Kaczynski married his mother?!
delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
28 Jan 2016 #761
You skipped what I wrote above but others will read it so your effort to discredit me is pointless.

You made the claim that he was living with women while he wasn't married to them. That means he was living in sin according to Catholic doctrine. Nothing more, nothing less.

It's all becoming very clear now - the cost of living is going up considerably for Poles, and it's all because of PiS having made many election promises that were simply unfunded. There's no miracle 50 billion złoty lying in unpaid VAT, there's no massive amount of PIT and CIT evasion - the money simply isn't there. The retail tax and the bank tax represents a huge tax increase for ordinary Poles, with no sign of anything in return.

The bank tax is hurting Polish people more. Foreign companies can simply loan money in their home market and use it to fund their plans in Poland. Polish companies don't have such luxuries. Foreign supermarkets can simply demand lower margins from their suppliers, who will simply increase the margin when it comes to selling to smaller businesses that don't have that kind of negotiating power.

Far from being "good change", Poles are walking into a high tax nightmare where the government is increasing tax after tax to pay for some completely misguided socialist promises.
johnny reb 28 | 5,329
28 Jan 2016 #762
he was living with women while he wasn't married to them.

Are you sure delph ?
If they didn't live in cohabitation why would it be sin ?
poganin - | 58
28 Jan 2016 #763
That means he was living in sin according to Catholic doctrine.

That is fine, we are not as prudish here as you are in USA. I like Kaczynski even more now.
Roger5 1 | 1,458
28 Jan 2016 #764
The Dear Leader Chairman Kaczynski married his mother?!

I think poganin might have meant "females" rather than women. We know he is very fond of his pussies.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
28 Jan 2016 #765
Are you sure delph ?

I'm not sure, because no-one has ever heard of JK having a "shack-up" as Polonius would put it.

Ah, these PiS trolls will do anything to divert from the reality that the Ministry of Finance yesterday made it clear that they cannot support the 500zł per child project.
jon357 66 | 17,078
28 Jan 2016 #766
If one identical twin was not gay according to you then the other is not gay either.

That's simply not true. There have been rigorous studies about identical twins which disprove what you allege.

You've also said he's married (he isn't) and that he has lived with women (he hasn't).

We know he is very fond of his pussies

Who among us isn't?

As part of an investigation, begun in 1992, of right-wing political parties that, the documents said, 'could threaten democracy,' a Secret Service department then headed by Colonel Jan Lesiak reported, 'It is advisable to establish if Jaroslaw Kaczynski remains in a long-term homosexual relationship and, if so, who his partner is.'"

Kaczynski's homosexuality had been rumored since Lech Walesa made a comment 13 years ago on national television regarding the twins' arrival at his birthday party: "Lech came with his wife and Jaroslaw came with his husband.

towleroad.com/2006/10/homophobic_poli/
delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
28 Jan 2016 #767
Further examples of "good change" comes with one of the most blatant political bribes in recent years.

wyborcza.pl/1,75478,19547164,pis-przekazal-20-mln-zl-na-szkole-o-tadeusza-rydzyka.html?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=SM&utm_campaign=FB_Gazeta_Wyborcza

The amendment says to allocate "funds for the implementation of tasks of the Higher School of Social and Media Culture in Torun (capital expenditure in the amount of 10,000 thousand. złoty, current expenditures in the amount of 10,000 thousand złoty". A total of 20 million zł. The amendment in question calls to reduce expenses by this amount for culture and national heritage protection (including theaters).

In other words, Rydzyk has been given 20 million złoty in exchange for his political support of PiS.

"Good Change", indeed.
Ziemowit 13 | 4,282
28 Jan 2016 #768
I thought he was supposed to be a devout Catholic. Does that mean that he was living in sin? Disgraceful.

The Dear Leader Chairman Kaczynski married his mother?!

You skipped what I wrote above but others will read it so your effort to discredit me is pointless. You do not know how to converse so you manipulate but it does not work.

The sooner you discover the techniques that the Brit Bullies use to discuss certain things (I repeat: certain things) on this forum, the better you will be prepared to reply to them, young man. I should only advise you now to be extremely careful as they are indeed the masters of the "manipulating when conversing" techniques.
jon357 66 | 17,078
28 Jan 2016 #769
Further examples of "good change" comes with one of the most blatant political bribes in recent years

And since public money is short, how many theatres, museums etc will lose out.

Toruń innstitution has done much to promote genuine Polish cultrual

No it hasn't.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
28 Jan 2016 #770
supposed to be a devout Catholic

If you know your Catholic teaching, as you claim to, you should know that being homo is an unwilled affliation that has nothing to do with the God-given gift of free will. It is disgustingly abominable homosexual practices that are sinful, although some willingly wallow in such filth.
Ziemowit 13 | 4,282
28 Jan 2016 #771
The Toruń innstitution has done much to promote genuine Polish cultrual heritage and that happens to coincide with the pro-Polish programme PiS

You really exaggerate with this bonding between PiS and the Toruń institution. There have been real differences between them not quite a long time ago and last time PiS have won the last elections without any explicit support of Father Thaddeus. I am sure JK realized that the mohair brigade would vote for them irrespectively of the fact whether Toruń support PiS or not. Those "Toruń" voters simply had no choice to vote otherwise.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
28 Jan 2016 #772
had no choice

True. Ideologically they could only vote for PiS or PSL, but non-rural voters do not really equate with the latter.

voters

All the hysterical ranting, chanting, ******** and snitching by KOD as well as similar garbage being by spewed by GW, TVN and PF's poor man's soapboxers hasn't made a bit of difference with the Polish nation at large.

The latest poll has shown the following support for Poland's political groupings:
PiS 39
Petru & Co. 22
PO 13
Kukiz 9.
Harry
29 Jan 2016 #773
The latest poll

I wonder why you haven't provided a link to support your story. Usually you do that when you have something to hide, such as whether or not you are telling the truth.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
29 Jan 2016 #774
All the hysterical ranting, chanting, ******** and snitching by KOD as well as similar garbage being by spewed by GW, TVN and PF's poor man's soapboxers hasn't made a bit of difference with the Polish nation at large.

Polonius, you might be suspended at the minute, but the latest TNS Polska poll suggests rather the opposite.

ewybory.eu/sondaz-tns-polska-dla-faktu-29-01-2016

PiS 31.2%
Nowoczesna 24%
PO 21.1%
Kukiz 9.5%
dolnoslask
29 Jan 2016 #775
So PIS are still ahead in the polls, so no great discontent in Poland then.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
29 Jan 2016 #776
Not really - Nowoczesna and PO are more or less one party when it comes to opposing PiS. Kukiz'15 have also backed off from their previous blind support of PiS.
dolnoslask
29 Jan 2016 #777
Well it's a long time before the next elections and you know what these pollsters are like, It is good that the EU have decided not come out against the policies of our new government, although the EU is run by libtards who are against any forward thinking progressive government.

Many EU countries are starting to wake up (Liberals have been already thrown out in the UK, only two seats I think), many may well follow the lead of PIS. All is good in the village.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
29 Jan 2016 #778
any forward thinking progressive government.

This is most definitely not in Poland. The fact that someone even thought that it was acceptable to take 20 million złoty from hospices to give to a priest is unbelievable.

Many EU countries are starting to wake up (Liberals have been already thrown out in the UK, only two seats I think), many may well follow the lead of PIS. All is good in the village.

PiS are not leading anything, because they're actually one of the most socialist parties in Europe right now. A true conservative party would seek to devolve as much power away from central government as possible.
jon357 66 | 17,078
29 Jan 2016 #779
The fact that someone even thought that it was acceptable to take 20 million złoty from hospices to give to a priest is unbelievable

That's actually horrific.
gumishu 11 | 5,605
29 Jan 2016 #780
The fact that someone even thought that it was acceptable to take 20 million złoty from hospices to give to a priest is unbelievable.

do you make up things as you go or do you repeat Gazeta Wyborcza's propaganda?

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