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Poland's post-election political scene



gregy741 3 | 1,077    
15 Jun 2017  #3,451

anyone knows,why Michnik and liberal elites of Poland pose with human traffickers,who sold 96 woman into slavery?is human trafficking some new trend in KOD and libtards ideologies?i tho slavery is not very progressive.anyone knows the answer?





OP Polonius3 1,022 | 13,067    
15 Jun 2017  #3,452

pose with human traffickers

Their irrational brain-addling hatred for PiS is so great they would team up with Hitler, Stalin and the devil himself if that could harm Kaczyński and hurt PiS.
gregy741 3 | 1,077    
15 Jun 2017  #3,453

all is left of them is stench.
they suppose to bring down patriotic government,but how?when all of their leaders are nothing but degenerated red trash,fighting for their privileges...they had good run,managed to fool some idiots and motivate some ex UB SB criminals,battle off some rheumatism, varicose veins and ulcers .all for nothing.

their true nature came out for everyone to see it.
wonder what will be their next project.
OP Polonius3 1,022 | 13,067    
17 Jun 2017  #3,454

patriotic government

Dep. PM Morawiecki said on the evening news that stricter VAT enforcement has given Poland 20 billion zł. That is as much as Poland gets from the EU in a year. Thta has more thna paid for the 500+ programme on which the govenremnt is spending 17 billion zł this year. Under the PO scamster regime, that money went into the private pockets of collaborating shady businessmen, crooked politicians and former PRL poltical police. Another commendable achievement from the good-change government! Meanwhile the venomous "total opposition" spew their hate, disdain and derision. That's all they're good at! No wonder PiS have 42% backing, twice that of PO.
gregy741 3 | 1,077    
17 Jun 2017  #3,455

Dep. PM Morawiecki said on the evening news that stricter VAT enforcement has given Poland 20 billion zł. That is as much as Poland gets from the EU in a year

yes...all it takes is some minor legislation improvement and Poland get same money as from EU without massive concessions and sacrificing its sovereignty .
EU money slowly becoming irrelevant for Polands grow,but more and more concessions are being demanded from Poland.such as giving up Polands immigration policy control.

fk EU..time to get out of it.
Harry 78 | 13,521    
18 Jun 2017  #3,456

Dep. PM Morawiecki said on the evening news that stricter VAT enforcement has given Poland 20 billion zł. That is as much as Poland gets from the EU in a year.

Is he going to show us that money or just claim that it exists? If he made the claim that Poland only gets 20 billion zloty a year from the EU, he's already shown himself to be a lying, the reality is that Poland gets about three times that amount. But somehow I think that the source of that particular falsehood is the same as the one about the EU planning to forcibly micro-chip all Polish babies.

Under the PO scamster regime

If we're talking about taxes and scammers, why don't you tell us how much of your income you pay as taxes in Poland? Personally I pay well over 40%.
OP Polonius3 1,022 | 13,067    
18 Jun 2017  #3,457

scammers

The scammers are the big-time VAT fraudsters -- the recovered 20 billion zł is but a fraction of what those psot-commie PO/SB scumballs have stolen. But Morawiecki has just begun his clean-up of Platformer crime and grime. Even thouhg they have tried to cover up hteir tracks, the whole PO elite deserves to be behind bars: Tusk, Kopacz, Gronkiewicz, Graś, Sikorski, "Wristwatch" Nowak and many, many more.
Harry 78 | 13,521    
18 Jun 2017  #3,458

The scammers are the big-time VAT fraudsters

The scammers are the people who lie to Poland for their own ends. Was it deputy puppet minister Morawiecki who made the claim about Poland getting only 20 billion zloty per year from the EU or did yourself make that up or did you just hear it on Radio Maybach?

what those psot-commie PO/SB scumballs have stolen.

You mean like the multi-million zloty villas commie era scumballs own?

the whole PO elite deserves to be behind bars

I'm sure they would welcome trials. Just as we would welcome hearing how much of your income you pay as taxes in Poland.
Marsupial - | 978    
18 Jun 2017  #3,459

Harry...he isn't goig to show the money as it does not exist. They are just the same extremists as may and trump. Ridiculed and disliked world wide. Most of the people i know just hope they find their place in tbe bin before trashing the whole cointry. May will do anything to anyone in uk and shaft everyone to stay in power and so will trump and so will pis. Brainless extremists. Their fake polling, fake controlled media and gullible followers will not save them at elections. The torys have trashed uk, trump is making usa a 2nd world country and pis will ruin Poland for the next 10 years or more. Uk and usa is big enough and rich enough to withstand these jokers but Poland on the other hand is not. The consequences could be grim. We had one of them here too but he was politicalky knifed by his own very quickly. Thank the fake god!
OP Polonius3 1,022 | 13,067    
18 Jun 2017  #3,460

Radio Maybach?

Being bald as a cueball doesn't necessarily mean haing a thick skull, but in some cases it may. I have repeatedly said I never listen not only to Radio Maryja but any radio whatseover. (Have you finally checked out my car on your lateat snooping escapade?) Morawiecki said what he did on TVP1 Wiaodmości, the only reliable televison news source apart from Telewizja Republika.
OP Polonius3 1,022 | 13,067    
18 Jun 2017  #3,461

minister Morawiecki

Remember the hysterical initial reaction to 500+? It will bfreak the budget, it won't work, lowlifes will drink and smoke the extra money away...bla-bla-bla. There were even some such a*seholes on FP, not mentioning any names! When Morawiecki tried to explain that tightening up VAT enforcement would provide the needed fuads, he was laughed out by the embiettered losers of KOD. Petru and PO. Eventually, the losers club accepted the idea and tried to go the government one better with similar schemes of their own..

It turns out that tsricter VAT enforcement had indeed provided 20 billion zl, more than enouhg to cover the 17 billion spent a year on 500+. So the mean-spirited "total oppositon" nitpickers and badmouthers are now welcome to eat crow! Smacznego!
mafketis 16 | 4,668    
18 Jun 2017  #3,462

TVP1 Wiaodmości, the only reliable televison news source

you really need to turn your shtick into a nightclub stand up routine, it's hilarious!
OP Polonius3 1,022 | 13,067    
18 Jun 2017  #3,463

stand up routine

i supose you're going to claim that the Michnik rag and TVNomenklatura are fountains of pure, unadulterated truth. No bias, no brainless PiS-bashing, just all-round truthful and reliable news (ROFL!!!!)
mafketis 16 | 4,668    
18 Jun 2017  #3,464

i supose you're going to claim that the Michnik rag and TVNomenklatura are fountains of pure, unadulterated truth

Why would I do that? All news sources have their biases and the intelligent consumer takes the biases (and the degrees of same) into account. You seem to see the world in very weird black and white. If someone doesn't share your laughably extreme cartoon views they must have equally absurd opposite views. How old are you anyway? Six?
OP Polonius3 1,022 | 13,067    
18 Jun 2017  #3,465

laughably extreme

To some, an extremist is a brainless, heartless, soulless money-grubbing profiteer who knows little beyond supply and demand and view life basically in terms of consume and excrete. That definiton does not fit an indiviudal trying to strike a sensible balance between the temporal and the spiritual, between physical needs and higher values.
Harry 78 | 13,521    
19 Jun 2017  #3,466

Morawiecki said what he did on TVP1 Wiaodmości,

Can we trouble you for a link of him claiming that Poland only gets 20 billion zloty a year from the EU? Or did you make up that laughable claim yourself?

Being bald as a cueball doesn't necessarily mean haing a thick skull, but in some cases it may.

Combing over long strands of hair might give the owner the impression that nobody has noticed how bald he is, but the reality is that it's as laughable as the people who claim to be patriots but then go very quiet when asked about where they choose to pay their income tax and how much they pay.

Stick to the topic please
OP Polonius3 1,022 | 13,067    
20 Jun 2017  #3,467

KOD

As more and more Poles see through the motley collection of child-maintenance evaders and VAT fraudsters, sex-slave traffickers, ex-PRL SB agents and other unsavoury types populating the trough-defending KOD gang supported by the Platformers, PO continue to fall further behind PiS. The latest Kantar survey has shown that PiS would receive 39% support, PO - 18% and Kukiz 11%,
jon357 67 | 12,680    
20 Jun 2017  #3,468

Can we trouble you for a link of him claiming

I doubt we'll see one.

the motley collection of

As usual, the opposite of the truth. I wonder if you actually think anyone believes that tosh.
gumishu 10 | 4,445    
24 Jun 2017  #3,469

Merged:

New political poll



wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/wiadomosci/7,114871,22001906,pis-z-rekordowym-poparciem-w-sondazu-dla-oko-press-wynik-lepszy.html?v=1&obxx=22001906&offset=19&order=najciekawsze&page=2#opinions

according to gazeta.pl a new poll suggests that support for PiS crossed the 40 per cent barrier
OP Polonius3 1,022 | 13,067    
24 Jun 2017  #3,470

40 pe

May be a different pollster, because not long ago PiS got 42%, double that of PO.

anyone believes that tosh.

There actually are suckers who believe the fraudsters and scamsters of KOD, PO and N. Głupich nie sieją, sami się rodzą!
OP Polonius3 1,022 | 13,067    
10 Jul 2017  #3,471

he Platformers,

The noose is tightening round Warsaw's Witch Mayor's neck. Her signature is on the document approving the transfer of a choice parcel of real estate to a Maciej M. who had evicted the middle school with a 100-year tradition housed in the building and had it moved from central Warsaw toi Mokotów so he could lay claim to the property. Afraid to face the commission, she is twittering her excuses instead where she isn't under oath. The PO is so premeaetd with scams and affairs that it's no wonder Tusk is said to be mulling setting up a new party to replace the scamster Platform ahead of the 2019 polls (see Rzeczpospolita).
jgrabner 1 | 24    
10 Jul 2017  #3,472

If he made the claim that Poland only gets 20 billion zloty a year from the EU

according to cohesiondata.ec.europa.eu/countries/PL , from the 2014-2020 ESI budget, €4,31/18,25zł bln have been spent so far. If he was talking about 20, he was actually generously rounding it up.

For sure, the bulk of the budget is still in planning stage but since money only flows for actual expenses, he is more than correct so far.
OP Polonius3 1,022 | 13,067    
10 Jul 2017  #3,473

he is more than correct so far

It's good to know that some posters have the kmnowledge and competence to challenge and debunk PF's Liar Laureate's steady stream of untruths.
delphiandomine 80 | 15,938    
10 Jul 2017  #3,474

For sure, the bulk of the budget is still in planning stage but since money only flows for actual expenses, he is more than correct so far.

Rather confirms that PiS don't know what they're doing if they can't get the money spent.

By the way, that's only the cohesion funds. You've forgotten about the CAP and other fiscal transfers.
OP Polonius3 1,022 | 13,067    
11 Jul 2017  #3,475

budget

For the first time since the finance ministry started publishing such statistics 25 years ago, Poland this year has achieved a budget surplus rather than the customary post-commie deficit. Someone asked a ministry official how that was possible and he replied: "It sufficed not to steal!" From 40-60 billion zł slipped through the cracks during each year of PO/PSL misrule, Some foreign analysts have placed the figure as high as 150 billion.

One wonders how PF's notorious PiS-bashers will react to that news. Maybe "Gazeta Prawna is a fascist rag" or "Only the Kosher Courier can be believed". They can always dredge up SKOK or some such.
Sparks11 - | 281    
11 Jul 2017  #3,476

where did it go? there should be some extremely rich polish people hanging out (probably) abroad.
OP Polonius3 1,022 | 13,067    
11 Jul 2017  #3,477

where did it go?

That's a very good question. The fact remains that so vast a sum coudl not have simply vnsaisherd without the complicity of Tusk era finance and treasury officials, police, prosecutors and/or ABW (internal security). For their inaction and looking the other way, some of them must've got a generous cut of the action!
jon357 67 | 12,680    
11 Jul 2017  #3,478

Rather confirms that PiS don't know what they're doing if they can't get the money spent.

Quite. It's mostly that they refuse to sign off on projects since they want the dosh for "political purposes"...
Harry 78 | 13,521    
11 Jul 2017  #3,479

For their inaction and looking the other way, some of them must've got a generous cut of the action!

Hilarious! You can't explain how a sum that didn't exist disappeared, so you claim that other people must have made it disappear.

Tusk era ... ABW (internal security)

You mean back in the days when that agency wasn't run by a convicted and self-confessed criminal?

vnsaisherd

Perhaps a spot of lunch would be a good idea? And not the liquid kind.
Ziemowit 8 | 2,575    
11 Jul 2017  #3,480

The 87th monthly anniversary of the Smoleńsk crash which was celebrated in Krakowskie Przedmieście in Warsaw yesterday saw people who shouted "Lech Wałęsa" being detained by police, whereas those who decided to shout "Bolek" were left undisturbed - has said TVN in its main news bulletin today.

It is perhaps worth pointing out that "Bolek" and "Lech Wałęsa" is supposed to be the same person precisely.




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