Poland's post-election political scene

Interestingly, PF's consummate PiS-bashers, who are always banging on about their various obsessions, hangups and complexes, are strangely silent upon learning the latest poll results. So let me repeat: PO has fallen a full 14 percentage points below PiS.

Don't you ever tire of this? Last month according to a KMB ( Kantar Millward Brown ) survey, public support for PO exceeded that for PiS. It's not like there is even an election looming, so polls are pretty meaningless at this stage anyway. Besides, the results vary depending on the particular poll in question.

PO is trap. That option may lead Poland into another partition. How? By weakening of strength of state institutions in situation of internal challenges and foreign pressure, what all may push into drop of confidence in state and disintegration of internal unity. Beware Poles. PO is very dangerous option. They proved that, publicly and openly.

You need to keep up with modern usage...

anime-traps.wikia.com/wiki/Anime_traps_Wik

I clearly mentioned the " one-off margin-of-error fluke last month". Although elections are still well off in the fuutre, periodic monitoring of sirveys provides soem idea of the changing public mood.

Those who want to know why the Polish nation gave the PO scamster regime the red card in October 2015 would do well to read this link. Maybe someone will take pity on poor Anglo-jabbering PiSlamic and give him a brief summary in English.

grzechy-platformy.org/podsumowanie/

The Schetyna game plan code-named "ulica i zagranica" (and we might add "Targowica") saw Poland-bashing opposition emissaries spread their venom far and wide. It actually led to a rating-agency downturn even though in 2016 the Polish economy was hardly a shambles.

But all the ballyhoo turned out to be little more than a smoke-screen to cloud the PO's shame at total election defeat and their desperate desire to return to the trough. Now the ratings are back up, nealry all economic indicators are positive, foreign investments are growing apace, new opportuniteis are opening up for indigenous Polish entrepreneurs, innovations are being promoted, more children are being born and....for the first time in 30-some years more people are migrating to Poland than leaving!!! Of the incomers 75% are Poles returning from job stints abroad, mainly from the British Isles and Germany. Some have told reproters that maybe one can earn more abroad but the prices of everything are sky-high. On balance, many can achieve comparable purchasing power in Poland, and their foreign experience often works to their advanatge. On the plus side, in Poland they are at home with family and friends and nobody calls them "bloody foreigners".

The moral of the story: PO did a lousy job governing, thereby earning a red card from the Polish nation. And they're not doing any better as an opposition. Lots of ballyhoo but utlimately they are too weak, inefffective and clueless to do much actual harm.

Poles are critical of the way their country's political parties function. In a recent survey by pollster CBOS, 87% referred to parties as cliques whose only goal is to gain power. 80% felt political parties comprise people whose main motivation is personal ambition, and 66% percent said that the goals of most parties were unclear. But 54%admitted that parties propose solutions to major problems in Poland. CBOS noted that Poles have grown more critical of political parties compared with the results of surveys six and 16 years ago. The ongoing Polish-Polish war between the former liberal Civic Platform (PO) government, kicked out of office by voters in 2015, and the ruling conservative Law and Justice cabinet has often degenerated into mutual tit for tat mud-slinging over every possible issue. Those unending controversies have both polarized Polish society as well as turning many Poles against the political establishment as a whole. That largely accounts for Poland's generally low voter turnout.

Not long ago backers of the now fortunately defunct PO scamster regime got orgasms due to a one-off fluke where PO came 1 point ahead of PiS in a survey. Since then, as widely predicted, support for the ruling PiS party has grown spectacularly. The latest CBOS poll has shown PiS getting twice the support of PO. PiS was backed by 42% of those queried, PO -- 21% and Kukiz - 9%. No other party crossed the 5% hurdle. Such an outcome would give Law and Justice and the constructive opposition Kukiz-15 a constitutional majority to finally create the Poland of our dreams. Co daj Boże!

That was last month. Now PiS is 21 points ahead of thePlatformers. More and more Poles have seen through the phony PO propaganda and endless government-bashing to conceal the PO's lack of any programme and thier real goal: A RETURN TO THE FEED TROUGH!!!

"O co Platformie chodzi? - może ktoś zapyta.
My odpowiadamy: O POWRÓT DO KORYTA!

A party is a voluntary organisation, so they are free to elect whomever they want for as long as their charter allows and they cna vote to amend the charter.

A mayor is a public official and limting the number of terms in office would be one way to break up the local cliques and mafias that have grown up over the years.

Another victory for the good-changePiS government! Trump has accepted President Duda's invite to visit Poland. He isw due to come on 6th July. The White House has said in a statement the visit would reaffirm America's steadfast commitment to Poland.

Fantastic! Maybe Trump and his new FBI boss will help us with Smolensk ?

Also, how long before Sowa gets the boot up his ass and gets cleansed from the Church ? In the light of the new recordings I think Abp Jedraszewski should just excommunicate this guy

Father Sowa looked like a mafia capo deciding whom to support, whom to rub out, what tactic to use, etc. and peppered his spiel with loutish language unbecoming a priest, even a drunk priest! On the other hand, what other type of priest would stoop so low as to hobnob with the PO scamster slime? He used to appear regularly on TVN(omenkltura). Or is it TWN

The guy he talked with at Sowa was also a comrade xd in the Party or something.. you know these factors from the restaurant should be awarded Virtutis for the amazing work they've done uncover this mafia!

Is there a single soul here that thinks Crooked Hillary would have accepted an invite to Poland ?
I kept telling you Trump likes and supports Poland.
Poland doesn't lie, are straight shooters and kept their promises to NATO when other countries didn't.
Hopefully Trump will be on his best behavior as I know older Poland will give him a warm welcome.

Majority opinion on Trump in Poland is positive, everyone likes that he had not allowed a reset with Russia after his election something that OsamaObama did which led to the War in Ukraine ... (And Georgia if I recall)

Trump should threaten Putin wtih Pershing missiles targetting the Kremlin unelss they return the wreckage of the presidential plane.

Haha just allow us into the nuclear arsenal sharing programme ;) we will do the rest lol!

You nailed that one: Trump is certainly stupid enough to threaten people with missiles that were destroyed more than a quarter of a century ago. And faithful of the PiSlamic State are probably misguided enough to think that him doing that would be a good idea.

As usual, PiSlamic's got no sense of humour. That remark was strictly *** grano salis. It did remind me of one of the underground postrers during martial law: Organizujemy wycieczkę do Związku Radzieckiego Pershingiem....

As usual, 'Polish' Polly can't just admit that he was just making things up instead of telling the truth. But that's a habit he shares with First Secretary Kaczynski and the rest of the PiSlamic State.

What a pleasant thread this was before...........it got toxified for no other reason then to argue.
It will be interesting to see what Trumps tweets will be about Poland.
My bet is that they will be positive.

You clearly have not read any of this thread....

The truth according to Kopacz: Even the tiniest fragment of human tissue found at the scene of the crash up to a depth of one metre was DNA-tested... The Russians acted with great empathy, care and professionalism.... A giant crock of BS!

The reality: coffns were fileld with scooped up body parts and debris including ciagrette butts inside sewn-up post-mortem cadavers to have a niformn weight of of 80-90 kilo.

And back in 2010 Tusk said he takes full political responsibiltiy for the situation. He hasn't beee too tlakataive about hte misplaced cadvaers and body parts.

And these are the kinds of characters you identify with. Lying-through-the-teeth Sikorski, fraudster Graś.... Anyone who does has got absolutely no class and no brains!

Yet more whataboutism from 'Polish' Polly. Rather than in any way addressing the lies told by his heroes in the PiSlamic State, to say nothing of their crimes and cronyism, he focuses instead on the past misdeeds of his enemies. He hates Poland so much that he doesn't want anybody to look at how long the PiSlamic State are bringing the once enviable country, how they are seeking to repeat the 1960s but instead appear to be repeating the 1930s, how they break Polish law any time that suits them. In short he's doing exactly the same as what somebody we won't name did back in the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s, when he planted in the Polonia Press the propaganda the Party and the First Secretary wanted to be there, back when the Party was the PZPR instead of PIS and the First Secretary of the Party wasn't called Kaczynski. In a way what the likes of 'Polish' Polly do when shilling for PIS and First Secretary Kaczynski is worse than what he-who-won't-be-named did, at least he was getting paid for his shilling back then.

Hillary has been here many times - as First Lady and as Secretary of Stare. Obama has been twice I think and famously worked out in the hotel gym with the regular guests. No chance of the sagging orange idiot doing that - of course he is welcome here as the head of state of Polands most important ally but he will be kept well away from the public and he will be happy with that because he despises protest - I see he is now too much of a coward to visit Britain.

The judges violate the constitution by engaging in politics. They are supposed to be non-partisan, unpoilitical, unbiased and devotzed only to the merits of the case they are judging. Instead, their convention was nothing more than an outright PiS-bashig poltical rally. They said nothing up cleaning up their act, making sluggish judicial machinery more efficient, not forcing people to wait for verdicts for months if not years. No, only PiS-bashing. So before you point your finger at PiS, remember: THREE FINGERS ARE POINTING BACK AT YOU AND YOUR PO SCAMSTER COMRADES!!!!! But rest assured, there is no return to the PO-at-the-trough era!

BTW, very transparent attempt to wheedle your way away from your role model: LYING KOPACZ!

Care to quote the article of the Polish constitution which says that judges cannot engage in politics? Or did 'Polish' Polly just make that up thinking he could slip it into this thread? The only part of the constitution I can find which might cover that is Article 103.2, but that no longer applies in the PiSlamic State and no the judges are attempting to vote as MPs.