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England's relations with Poland


David_18  65 | 965
24 Jun 2010   #1
All too often examples of how the Polish people and their illustrious history go overlooked or altogether neglected from any historical mentions, save, their being overrun by the Blitzkrieg in 1939. It's as if only mere mentions of how Poland suffered are allowed to be openly discussed, if at all, which is usually overshadowed by the suffering of others who were not Polish during WWII (thanks to Hitler, Stalin, Churchill and Roosevelt). 'Confined to Quarters' is a description used here, to illustrate where Polish history is usually kept when it is excluded from film and history books outside of Poland itself by others who seem to want to keep it that way.

Following, however, are examples from earlier Polish History with some selected excerpts from Arthur L. Waldo's book 'Jamestown True Heroes', of, in this case, (also overlooked or ignored), how England relied heavily upon Poland and/ or the well-known relationship between the two countries historically, which continually goes unacknowledged and undocumented in 'modern' 'period' films and historical accounts. Complaining about this ongoing occurrence usually tends to fall on deaf ears outside of the Polish demographic in general. So, here is one small attempt to bring such rarely-known history to the eyes and ears of the curious and/or unknowing non-Polish society in hopes to better educate those who weren't familiar with this information

Enjoy!!!

Seems like the Poles and the Brits shares a common history.


Matowy  - | 293
24 Jun 2010   #2
Seems like the Poles and the Brits shares a common history.

So do all countries, it's nothing remarkable.


OP David_18  65 | 965
24 Jun 2010   #3
Ok then tell me. What does Estonia and Tanzania have in common "Historically".

Anyway does the english/polish school teach you anything about the historical connections between Poland and England?

And has anyone been at the Poland Street in London? Is it nice?


NorthMancPolak  4 | 642
24 Jun 2010   #4
And has anyone been at the Poland Street in London? Is it nice?

it's nothing special, just a typical central London sidestreet really - full of offices and crazy motorcycle couriers trying to kill everyone, lol.

Berwick & Wardour Streets are nearby, which are far better.

I used to go to the Yo! Sushi along there, though. And Black Market Records nearby, of course :)


Amathyst  19 | 2700
24 Jun 2010   #5
And has anyone been at the Poland Street in London? Is it nice?

Have you been to Greek Street? Its slightly more famous! (where's that Southern when you need him!)


OP David_18  65 | 965
24 Jun 2010   #6
Does the "Poland house" still exist?


Amathyst  19 | 2700
24 Jun 2010   #7
Its student accommodation.


OP David_18  65 | 965
24 Jun 2010   #8
No way!!!!!


Amathyst  19 | 2700
24 Jun 2010   #9
No way!!!!!

Yes way :D

This was built in 1966 so its possibly not the one you were thinking of, but something built on the site where the other building stood..I'll see if I can find anything out..


NorthMancPolak  4 | 642
24 Jun 2010   #10
where's that Southern when you need him!

on the streets, pimping, probably :)


OP David_18  65 | 965
24 Jun 2010   #11
Yes way :D

Well that has to be some new building right?

Can't be the original one from the 16'th century :P


Amathyst  19 | 2700
24 Jun 2010   #12
on the streets, pimping, probably :)

I know, look I take it back about Poland Street, William Blake was born there..


NorthMancPolak  4 | 642
24 Jun 2010   #13
Greek Street is just off Old Compton Street - I'm sure a few people on here would say that's the perfect place for Southern, haha ;)


Amathyst  19 | 2700
25 Jun 2010   #14
He'd be in heaven..


OP David_18  65 | 965
25 Jun 2010   #15
Everyone knows that heaven lays in Bahamas.... Or Saint tropez!!!


PolishPete723
11 Jun 2014   #16
David, David....are your history studies that devoid of recognizing remarkable demonstrations of political relations?!

I'm speaking to David18, I believe in reference to his passionless and ignorant refusal to acknowledge the Dialogue between Queen Elizabeth and the Polish Ambassador .

Sorry David all of my comments were meant for Matowy!


Alien  31 | 8031
3 Feb 2023   #17
England's relations with Poland

.....are better than ever.


pawian  226 | 27211
3 Feb 2023   #18
Good. But thanks to a sad reason - war in Ukraine. Now we are united in providing help to Ukraine.


Syriusz
6 Aug 2026   #19
Poland's relationship with the UK has improved when Poland showed its power. brits realize that poland is a crucial buffer between them and Russia, so they now support Poland fully as they should.


Alien  31 | 8031
6 Aug 2026   #20
Poland's relationship with the UK has improved when Poland showed its power

Poland's relations with the UK have never been bad. The countries have never fought wars with each other. On the contrary, Poland has always been an ally of the UK in this politically difficult region dominated by Russia and Germany.


Lyzko9bda5804d1f
6 Aug 2026   #21
One of England's greatest novelists, Joseph Conrad, known as a master stylist of the English language, was born and raised in Poland, not having learned English until his mid-20's!


jon357  77 | 26054
6 Aug 2026   #22
Joseph Conrad

A great writer. Heavily edited and corrected as all writers are however you can feel the quality of writing when you read him. You can also pick up some transference from Polish which doesn't detract from the product. Nostromo should be compulsory reading for all.

mproved when Poland showed its power

'Power' hasn't made any difference either way. Relations have always been good. You'd be surprised how much was imported from PL during. the PRL years too.


Lyzko9bda5804d1f
6 Aug 2026   #23
Will have to re-read "Heart of Darkness".


jon357  77 | 26054
6 Aug 2026   #24
Worth it, however personally I'd recommend Nostromo and The Secret Agent.

Not really the thread for it though.

If its about Britain's (hard to know why the thread title onlyt mentions one part of it) and Poiand's relations and want to mention literature, Joe Alex is the obvious one. He wrote in Polish however his books are often set in London where he'd lived. Dated but very readable in Polish.


Lyzko9bda5804d1f
6 Aug 2026   #25
Secret Agent was made into a Gaumont film in 1937 by Hitchcock starring Sir John Gielgud as Ashenden.


jon357  77 | 26054
6 Aug 2026   #26
Did you know that there's the grave of a possible Polish princess in Cumbria? She may or may not have been a genuine member od the Sobieski family. Many questions remain.

Clementina Johannes Sobiesky Douglass, died 1771.

There's a certain mystery about who she was, especially her paternity.


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Lyzko9bda5804d1f
6 Aug 2026   #27
Not surprlsing


Miloslaw  24 | 5803
6 Aug 2026   #28
@Syriusz

Spot on!

Poland's relations with the UK have never been bad.

100% true.

One of England's greatest novelists, Joseph Conrad, known as a master stylist of the English..

This is true, but he mainly wrote about Africa.


jon357  77 | 26054
6 Aug 2026   #29
he mainly wrote about Africa.

Early on, yes. Later, not so much so.


Lyzko9bda5804d1f
6 Aug 2026   #30
Yes, however it's interesting, I heard/read, that while he wrote English beautifully, he spoke with a decided Polish accent!





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