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The Political Circus of Poland


Ironside 50 | 11,105
16 May 2012 #91
Because you admit that you are Polish and when strangers read you, what image of a Polish person do they get?

Person they respect ?

I think Pollack jokes should be disappearing gradually, instead of being fuelled.

Think about it.

Fishy !
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,377
16 May 2012 #92
You remind me of banned Sokrates a lot. The same silly reactions.

I think that he is loosing his mental faculties with age, and his less tolerable traits are coming to the fore.
Ironside 50 | 11,105
16 May 2012 #93
What age that would be ?:D
Sometimes I have no patience for sleazy dishonest as-holes.
OP pawian 176 | 15,454
17 May 2012 #94
I don't recall him claiming that he is impartial.

I am!:):):)

Look how a notable PO politician attacks a TV reporter (PiS fan) who was filming him and trying to pry out an interview. The guy really should undergo some kind of therapy.

Get out of here or I`ll break your camera!
peterweg 37 | 2,319
18 May 2012 #95
Why? thats nothing unusual, if some doesn't want be film they can object. If the camera person has a political agenda they are fair game.
OP pawian 176 | 15,454
18 May 2012 #96
thats nothing unusual, if some doesn't want be film they can object.

Unfortunately, in Poland, politicians may be filmed or taken photos of in public places without limitations.

The fourth power is the term applied to media.
Alligator - | 261
18 May 2012 #97
Alligator: I don't recall him claiming that he is impartial.

I am!:):):)

Ok, I stand corrected ;)

On the side note, seriously, people should get over the notion that they or anybody else is or can ever be impartial. Such trivial thing but still some don't get it i.e. Iron, but I'm not going to elaborate since he is now suspended.

Look how a notable PO politician attacks a TV reporter (PiS fan) who was filming him and trying to pry out an interview. The guy really should undergo some kind of therapy.

I always thought that he is a despicable person and politician.
More or less the same I think about Stankiewicz. The mess she started is the double-edged sword, she will also suffer. It's already apparent in the internet news and forums. Looks like every cloud has a silver lining, two horrible people exposed.

PO always seemed to me like a patchy party with very different people in respect of their opinions, political platforms and culture. Thats why there is a place there for Niesiołowski and in the old days for Palikot.
OP pawian 176 | 15,454
20 May 2012 #98
On the side note, seriously, people should get over the notion that they or anybody else is or can ever be impartial.

Exactly.

Only our PF mods are impartial.

Such trivial thing but still some don't get it i.e. Iron, but I'm not going to elaborate since he is now suspended.

Alli, you are a person of honour.

I always thought that he is a despicable person and politician.

I tended to forgive him all his previous pranks and antics because I believed he still controlled it. But the way he let the PiS-oriented reporter provoke him into such a silly reaction seriously tarnished his image in my eyes. He should allow an expert to see into his disturbed state of mind.

More or less the same I think about Stankiewicz.

Yes, she practises cheap journalism for simpletons.

To be honest, she is as maniacal as most PiS leaders/members:

PO always seemed to me like a patchy party with very different people in respect of their opinions, political platforms and culture. T

It is their great asset and a weakness, too. But more an asset, I suppose.
rybnik 18 | 1,461
20 May 2012 #99
In keeping with the spirit of this thread I feel Janusz Palikot is doing an outstanding job in this regard. Is he serious? It seems to me he likes to grandstand doing whatever it takes to draw attention to himself. To this outsider his behavior is akin to the proverbial class clown. It's hard to beleive that he has his own party replete with followers!......What was the point of his recent "apostasy" ? He is the biggest joke of them all.
Alligator - | 261
20 May 2012 #100
Alli, you are a person of honour.

You flatter me, pawian.
It's only reasonable to refrain from talking to or about person who can't reply.

Yes, she practises cheap journalism for simpletons.

I wouldn't call her a "journalist". Stalking people with camera is not a journalism (and I'm not talking here only about situation with Niesiołowski).

It is their great asset and a weakness, too. But more an asset, I suppose.

It may be an asset in elections, when everybody can find somebody in PO who is politicaly plausible.
Problem starts after elections, when Tusk can't be sure his own party members and of course when people start seeing less plausible members of PO.

What was the point of his recent "apostasy" ?

Extensive media coverage for him and his party. In that he succeded. But unfortunately by this he also did an ill turn for serious debate about religion in Poland.

He is the biggest joke of them all.

I agree that he is a joke, but I'm not sure if the biggest...
Ironside 50 | 11,105
20 May 2012 #101
but I'm not sure if the biggest...

you are right - the biggest joke is your exchange about honor !
Alligator - | 261
20 May 2012 #102
Awwww.. you weren't included, even after that desperate vow:

Person they respect ?

Respect have to be earned.
Ironside 50 | 11,105
20 May 2012 #103
Respect have to be earned.

Do you think that I mean respect from you and the league of moral and/or intellectual midgets? Big mistake!
Continue to flatter each other and kiss each other butts, tell stories that things in Poland are great and will be better, phew ! I will not lower myself to talk to you anymore.

You have free ride here from now on and you can invite that titan of intellect moodyfanny to join your league.
OP pawian 176 | 15,454
20 May 2012 #104
Iron, I have had this feeling for some time and I can`t get it over.

You are a female, right?
Alligator - | 261
20 May 2012 #105
It's only reasonable to refrain from talking to or about person who can't reply.

It's seems that even more reasonable is not talking to him even after suspension.

the league of moral and/or intellectual midgets

Thats the name of your fanclub?!
Then I don't blame you that you don't want respect from them...
OP pawian 176 | 15,454
23 May 2012 #106
Jan Tomaszewski, PiS member, a famed former goalkeeper of the national team in 1970s, first refused to support the Polish team during EURO 2012 but changed his mind after a serious discussion with his boss. Very funny.

Tomaszewski-%E2%80%98will-be-supporting-Poland-during-Euro-2012-says-party-leader
Tomaszewski-I-will-not-be-cheering-for-Poland-at-Euro-2012
Hipis - | 227
23 May 2012 #107
I thought Lato was a joke until Tomaszewski came out with that BS. He's finally become the clown Cloughie said he was back in 1973. However, he's still the hero of one of my favourite footballing memories :D
OP pawian 176 | 15,454
26 May 2012 #108
rybnik: He is the biggest joke of them all.
I agree that he is a joke, but I'm not sure if the biggest...

He is trying really hard - smoked a joint during Free Cannabis March in Warsaw today: tvnwarszawa.pl/informacje,news,janusz-sciagnal-chmure-palik ot-zapalil-jointa,46437.html#!prettyPhoto
rybnik 18 | 1,461
27 May 2012 #109
More defections from Ruch Palikota. Does anyone think his party will survive much longer?
boletus 30 | 1,366
27 May 2012 #110
News, May 26, 2012 - a gigantic disgrace of Poland in front of the football fans in the whole Europe and the world: in the sparing game against Slovakia, the National Disgrace Team - appointed by Franciszek Smuda, a coach without high school diploma, but with a German passport - got utterly ridiculed (as predicted by our greatest patriots) in front of millions of TV viewers, by scoring a goal executed by "a French waste, who collaborated with the French football", Damien Perquis. What's even worse, that ball was passed to Perquis by "a convicted offender", £ukasz Piszczek.
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,377
27 May 2012 #111
Translated from

This website is great it perfectly encapsulates the philosophy of Poland's current opposition party. It should be compulsory reading for all those who are interested in Polish politics.

I find it particularly gratifying that Kaczynski's full official title is presented, giving due regard to this great Polish patriot: Nasz Umiłowany Przywódca, Nowy Zbawiciel Wolski, niezłomny i charyzmatyczny, Cudownie Ocalony Prezes-Premier-prawie-Prezydent Jarosław (węg.: Jarosláth) Chwilowo-Odmieniony-Kaczyński
Ironside 50 | 11,105
27 May 2012 #112
philosophy

spieprzaj dziadu !
OP pawian 176 | 15,454
28 May 2012 #113
Wow! Polish Parliament team, with Donald Tusk as attacker, has massacred Italian MPs in a charity soccer match. 7:2.

Poland parliament team
TerryTerrorist - | 8
29 May 2012 #114
@ pawian
I can't believe you give a sh!t about that, btw this news is gonna change my life for ever
OP pawian 176 | 15,454
29 May 2012 #115
I can't believe you give a sh!t about that,

What exactly? The match?

Actually, I give a big shyt about it.

btw this news is gonna change my life for ever

How?

WOW! The latest poll shows that No 1 in the ranking of most distrusted politicians isn`t JK anymore !! Now it is Janusz Palikot with 55% distrust, while JK scored 49% and is a runner-up.

PiS politicians openly express joy over two Polish gold medals won yesterday. Their joy is doubled by the fact that one medalist, shot putter, kicked the German ass, while the other, weightlifter, kicked the Russian ass.

I don`t like Germans and Russkies, he said. And added: I don`t care what others think about it.

One more reasons why I never support PiS. They are dangerous guys whose nationalist emotions can take over their reasoning. :):):):)

Besides, I like Germans and Russians! :):):):)
Wroclaw 44 | 5,384
4 Aug 2012 #116
Their joy is doubled by the fact that one medalist, shot putter, kicked the German ass, while the other, weightlifter, kicked the Russian ass.

winning olympic gold, in these events by, 3cms and 130grams are great achievements, but it ain't kicking ass. besides, all these competitors seem to be good mates, which makes a mockery of anyone elses ill feeling towards country of origin.
OP pawian 176 | 15,454
4 Aug 2012 #117
which makes a mockery of anyone elses ill feeling towards country of origin.

It is such bad taste to heal one`s national complexes in this way.

It hasn`t happened for years! Unheard of.

PO (government) and PIS (opposition) joined forces over the issue of controvercial Justice Minister, Gowin, who is massively criticised by leftist parties for certain words he uttered yesterday. He said he didn`t care about the law when the public interest is at stake. It was meant as an explanation to the scandal caused by his order to send copies of Amber Gold files from a local Gdańsk court to his office in Warsaw. Leftist parties consider it an infringement of judicial system independence etc etc.

PiS say Gowin is a good minister who intends to break the system of official and informal connections in the legal system in Poland.

Poland justice minister

Justice Minister apologized yesterday for his controversial word that is in the nose letter of the law . - I am ready to stand before the Tribunal of State - said. But does not provide for the dismissal.

- Sorry for the wording. I stand by the content of these words. Where the letter of the law is unclear or even contradictory , it must decide the spirit of the law and the public interest . A public interest is such that the truth about Amber Gold saw the light of day - Jaroslaw Gowin said on TVN . He also added : - sometimes succumb to emotions , never succumb to pressure.

PS. Gowin apologised for his words but stood by his order to send him the files.

PS2. I voted the guy in last elections. Out of pure sympathy. I quite like him.

Sympathy
2. an affinity or harmony, usually of feelings or interests, between persons or things to be in sympathy with someone
delphiandomine 88 | 18,456
23 Sep 2012 #118
He said he didn`t care about the law when the public interest is at stake.

It is, but at the same time - we all know that the judicial system is broken anyway. I don't like Gowin and think that he's far too conservative, but he has a point.
OP pawian 176 | 15,454
23 Sep 2012 #119
think that he's far too conservative,

Come on, it`s an asset, not vice.

It seems you are much younger than me. :):):):)
boletus 30 | 1,366
24 Sep 2012 #120
Motto of the week: "We intellectually lead the today's opposition" - Zbigniew Ziobro
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From interview of "Virtualna Polska" with Lech Wałęsa:
"I am not fit to rule today (...) I am a man of quick decisions and I won't be able to sit in parliament for longer than an hour, and for this I would need a crossword puzzle and a computer. I can not stand the chatter, but I know that democracy looks like that" - said Walesa.

He would only change his mind in one case.

"If Poland is in danger and starts coming apart I will not stand it. I'll get on with it and I will lead, no one will stop me" - said the former president.

He added that if he wanted to, it could easily get a job.
"But I am not seeking any position. I do not see myself in this mess" - Walesa said.
:-)


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