Poland's PiS party members and crime

You're the crime expert and have followed PO's shenanagins closely all these years so you've got the necessary expertise.

The headlines just keep writing themselves...


wprost.pl/ar/525551/Dwukrotnie-tracil-prawo-jazdy-W-rzadzie-PiS-zajmie-sietransportem-drogowym

Bwhahahaha. How many criminals can PiS possibly put into government?

And more to the point, to lose your licence in Poland, you have to be an insanely bad driver.

How many criminals linked to PO or supporting it can a political chauvinist like yourself overlook?
Somehow you failed to mention that the Platfus government deliberately shortened the crime expiry period to reward their most faithful electorate: the convict community. The PO fared better in Poland's prisons than any other political party. Something to be expected of Poland's leading theft, abuse and scam party -- PO.

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Polonius, Polonius...this isn't about PO. It's about the criminality of PiS members.

Unless you are a biased and one-sided poltical chauvinist, you were invited to start a PO crime thread for the sake if balance. Someone constantly doing nothing but badmouthing PiS must be badly distorted adn obsessed. Are they paying you (in whcih case your bias is at least understandable) or are you just being a "useful idiot"?

I'm not really sure what this has to do with PiS being the party of crime.

Nothing because PO is the party of crime for the last 8 years

Again, nothing to do with PiS and crime. Let's stick to the topic, here.

Stating the truth is always good even if a bit off topic.

By comparison the PO is Poland's crime party and they've had 8 years to prove it. A draught hrose is a strong animal but not when compared to an elephant!

I'm just amazed that you're doing everything to deflect from the fact that PiS have appointed a man that lost his driving licence twice to head up the road transport division.

Still nothing in comparison with what PO has done.

It's amazing it's like a guy who stole the entire contents of a house, pointing the finger at someone who took a stapler and a couple of pens from work. How about we deal with the vast amounts of sh%t that PO has done first?

Don't be amazed. It's a proven Soviet tactic. In Poland, it was known as "A u was biją Murzynów!".

The Brit Bully tag team have a pat answer to that (and most egverything else): "This thread is about PiS & crime so why bring PO into it?" When I suggested they set up a "PO & scam" thread, there was no response. The same when one of them alleged PiS was riddled with ex-PZPR members. Upon closer scrutiny It turned out that PO had 4 times as many. At least that shut the Blowhards up! But probably not for long.

It gets better and better every day :D


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So there we have it. Duda feels that Kamiński is a criminal, too. I mean, the facts aren't in doubt, but still, it's nice to see that Duda agrees with us on the matter.

Astounding how PIS claim to be so strongly anti-commie but copy so many of the commie regime's methods. But then they also claim to be strongly opposed to crime in general and corruption specifically but in reality their cabinet contains convicted criminals and their most senior elected member is happy to both defraud the Polish taxpayer and pardon other criminals when told to do so by his boss.


If you want a thread with that title, start one. And after you've done that explain why the most senior elected member of PIS is hiding behind immunity instead of answering the charges against him.

there is no crime Harry in that case there is only politick.

There is plenty of crime in using taxpayer's cash to earn cash privately.

Anyway, how do you feel about Duda's strong feelings about Kamiński being a criminal?

So you want to know how we do or do not feel about Duda's opinions on a PiS member who may or may not be a criminal. At least the president isn't a criminal.

How do you feel about former president Komorowski (who I'm sure you like) stealing all this stuff from Belweder? Not very classy for a former president to be such a thief. Unless of course fairies took it, because one way or another it has vanished?

The PiS member is very much a criminal - as Duda made clear, the pardon means that guilt is confirmed. PiS therefore have a criminal at the heart of their government.


Nothing to do with PiS and crime.

You are funny, most politicians, if not all, are criminals. It is hilarious how you get all rattled by some nit picking in Polish politics while in Poland nobody cares about trivialities as such, it is a truly western phenomenon. We are concerned about more serious matters, as for corruption, it happens everywhere. Are you sure you live in Poland?

Merged: Poland's PO and PSL party members and crime

This thread is specifically to discuss people connected with PO and PSL and crime - such as drink-driving, fraud and misuse of public money, involvement in Smolensk's tragedy...etc

Here are some links to PO scams, abuses, mismanagement, nepotism, etc. You should have plenty of items to consider, discuss and work with:

markd.pl
niewygodne.info.pl/artykul5/02035-Zgubne-skutki-rzadow-ekipy-Platformy-Obywatelskiej.htm
blogpress.pl/node/7889
naszeblogi.pl/44217-2000-afer-przekretow-przypadkow-nepotyzmu-ect-wystarczy

I think we should stop the PO vs PiS nonsense. It's a game good for sheeple, but reasonable Poles should get over the scam. In the US there is Rep / Dem party, but they are all the same. They only differ on social / BS issues; when it comes to REAL issues like stealing money from tax papers, global warming scam, etc. - they are all the same. It may not be very obvious yet (they don't try to spoil the game, so for now they pretend to be different on a wider range of issues, but it is just a matter of time, probably till the next elections in 5 years, that the only 'differences' will be social / BS issues). The goal is to divide and conquer and un-unite whatever remains united. Poles should not get duped - these are the same people working for the same masters (EU / Brussels).

Those are the same foreign language links that have already been binned once. It's regrettable you so clearly believe the forum rules about not posting links to foreign language sources, not reposting already binned content and not ignoring the instructions of mods. I wonder why so many PIS members and supporters think that rules don't apply to them.


I hope you have some evidence that Komorowski stole something, if not, well, I'll come to that below.


As I have pointed out in the past lots of people are invited to the president's palace to meet the president, even I've been invited there! Some people will leave the palace with things that they should not leave with, most often tea-spoons, apparently. Are you now going to tell us that Komorowski has been stealing teaspoons? Also, no stock-keeping system is perfect, mistakes are made with paperwork and things are misplaced. That is why stock-takes are carried out. I can absolutely guarantee you that every single time the president changes, various items are not found where the stock list says they should be. For example, when Komorowski took over at the Presidential palace, a set of some deer antlers were missing his team didn't immediately start shouting "The deer antlers that were certainly here when Kwasniewski was here are gone! The Duck must have sold them on ebay!", which was lucky, given that they were found later.


Actually there is. WielkiPolak and gregy and so on are PIS supporters and they are all accusing Komorowski of being a thief, so they are libeling him. Certain forms of libel in Poland are a criminal offence. So we can see that even when they are discussing other politicians PIS supporters try to copy the politicians they support.

What about precious paintings 2by4 or commodes? Did they hide them in their pants as well? You should know, share with us.
What about President Villa in Klarysew which has been striped bare down to the kitchen appliances, what's left empty rooms and bare walls. Who have nicked it all - fairies?

Not to mention money, budged for the whole year 2015 have been gone by July. Who is responsible - you?
Just stop your BS.

And what about those deer antlers which should have been in the presidential palace when Komorowski moved in? Where were they? Had The Dear Leader Chairman Kaczynski's brother had them mounted on the front of the presidential plane?


You mean the villa which Komorowski never used? The one which he was never able to use because of the condition of it when he became president. The one which was used as storage and which was planned to be transferred from the president's office to the Treasury. And nobody 'nicked' anything from that villa: there is paperwork for the items which were transferred from that facility to other facilities of the president's office.

I really hope that somebody from the former president's office starts legal proceedings against the scumbags who are libeling them, although no doubt Duda will also pardon those scumbags when his boss tells him to.

Don't worry, the new crew are already ahead and they'll start legal proceeding soon.

You honestly think that having a convicted criminal running Poland's secret services is a "triviality"?