Poland's PiS party members and crime

and you dont see nothing morally wrong with sentencing opposition person for 3 fokin years in prison for Negligence?wonder if Kopacz was sentenced with 3 years for negligence in Smolensk affair,what would ppl like you said?or and fkin useless minister from PO mafia?

He wasn't found guilty of negligence, he was convicted of illegally abusing his power. Why do you so often feel the need to lie to protect PIS politicians and to slander PO politicians?

I agree. Kamiński enjoys the reptuaiton of a crystal-clear anti-corrutpion activist and the founding father of the CBA. When the CBA strated going after the PO scammers and conmen, he had to be silenced. The presidential pardon will allow him to continue the PiS-led clean-up campaign. Sanacja bis as it were!

Unbelievable. It just shows how Duda is the President for PiS, not the President of Poland.


His father was in the PZPR, enough said.

Interesting that you consider a man who is a convicted criminal to have a crystal-clear reputation.

hes abusing of power was questionable some court found his actions within hes competencies.even assuming hes crossed over his competencies,this judge verdict was shockingly harsh.

now think if the same standards of abusing power would be applied to PO.tape scandal for example and po abusing their competencies and positions.

especially in light of 40 prosecutions against Ziobro,where he was found innocent in every one.this is political harassment of opposition with use of justice system.worse standards than 3-rd world dictatorship.

And Michnik's father and brother actually killed people in the name of the "father of the world proletariat and old lady Michnik tried to kill the souls of Polish school children with her pro-Stalin poison.

Balzerman whom you so admire was in the PZPR, as was Geremek and the godfather of the KOR-ite clique Kuroń. Somehow you never metnion that, Ignorance? Amnesia? Horse-blinkers? Prejudice? The choice is yours.

and Bauman is most glorified moral icon for PO,invited to universities and quoted everywhere.one need to look at milczanowski list to see what trash Tusk and PO really is.

40 now is it? Not so long ago you were claiming that it was 60. I asked you repeatedly last time you were telling this laughable lie: please tell us what charges the prosecutor brought in the 40 prosecutions you claim were brought.

pathetic ones.hows tribunal for Ziobro going?any good news?

On the good side, the law is clear - a pardoned criminal is guilty of his acts, because you can't pardon an innocent man. Kamiński is legally a crook, which means that there's a convicted criminal in the cabinet of PiS. And they claim to be about law and justice? Hahahaha.

Every miscarriage of justice must be rectified. The PO-inspired judicial harassment of Kamiński was just such a miscarriage, Maybe the PO not only has a łarger percentage of ex-PZPR members in its ranks but they also seem the be influenced by Stefan Michnik-style jurisprudence.

And what kind of innocent man accepts a document that says he is guilty?

Nothing you say can escape the fact that a guilty criminal is currently a cabinet member.

In other words, yet another example of PiS members being connected with crime.

i hope to see the same "crime" criteria use on PO scum.half of em would end in prison.

You know that they were pathetic? Good, that means you must know what charges the prosecutor brought in the 40 prosecutions you claim were brought, do tell us.

Stop posting off-topic. This is about PiS and crime, not PO.

What is it with you PiS supporters trying to bring PO into every topic?

utter nonsense they were ,trust me.go google


so whats with that tribunal Harry? after 8 years of prosecuting Ziobro,am starting to think there are no grounds for it.whats wrong,maybe 60 prosecutions not enough??surely its imposible.or maybe PO corrupted judges haven't learn and train Stalinist methods of prosecutions thoroughly and that's why they failed?or they are simply stupid and incompetent gotta be something.

Which charges were utter nonsense? Which charges did the prosecutor bring in the 40 prosecutions you claim were brought?

Justice has been done. As the pardoned Kamiński put it, "I regard the president's decision as a symbol of the restoration of a basic sense of justice, honesty and decency in public life." He recalled that three successive courts had found him not guilty. Also a parliamentary commission of enquiry could find no evidence that the CBA under Kamiński had violated the law. Presumably after a "visit" by the ABW or some other PO-ruled "power that be" a fourth court saw fit to find him guity. That was widely regarded as a clearly politically motivated verdict. It's not surprising that the PO regime went to such lengths to neutralise a champion of justice who was unmasking their numerous scams and dirty secrets.

Correct. Kamiński is guilty. Pardoned, but guilty. We now have examples of criminals operating at the very heart of the PiS government, and furthermore, he can't really appeal against being pardoned.

Who cares what a convicted criminal has to say? An innocent man would have fought to clear his name, not just have got a friend in the right place to remove the punishment for the crime he had been convicted of committing.

not in the eyes of anyone with the basic sense of justice.hes innocent.him being found guilty by corrupted scumbag means sh.it all for me.

Emil August Fieldorf was also found guilty of crimes

He's guilty. You can't pardon an innocent man.

Deal with it Gregy, there's a convicted criminal at the heart of the PiS government.

yes..same way guilty as Fieldorf and Pilecki. judged by corrupt politically and ideologically fuked up scumbags.
its an honor actually to be foung guilty by such lowlife.its mean you on the right side

Hahaha. Stop trying to compare Kamiński (a convicted criminal in an independent court in democratic Poland) with those two. It's rather insulting.

Imagine that PiS have stooped so low as to put a convicted criminal in charge of the intelligence services.

not comparing him to Pilecki.i compare methods,intentions and motivations of those within justice system who were judging him.same s.hiy,use justice system to destroy people.

beside...so many Stalinist idols are glorified by PO circles,thats make everything obvious here.

Pardoned means forgiven, absolved and forgotten. Case closed regardless of what all the losers, whiners and nitpickers have to say!

When it comes to Kaminski his trials have been politically motived and he has been charges with some rather doubtful nonsense.

Unfortunately system of justice in Poland is highly undependable at large as it wasn't wiped clean after the Soviet times. Consequently the same people left in prominent positions, often some families and same mentality weights heavily on the Polish judiciary system.

Ironside hath spoke.

No, you're just trying to divert away from the real issue - that a convicted criminal is in charge of the security services in Poland. Bringing up these names is meaningless - the topic is about PiS and crime, not what happened 60 years ago.

If you want to start such a thread, do so, but this is about the fact (made official today) that Kamiński is a criminal.