You see it as that the police were giving him advice - he couldn't expect to be treated in Poland the same as he would in his own country.
Hmm... I would say that no one should expect to be given privileges in a foreign country over a local population.
Those 'rights' and those laws that he enjoying in his own country created a certain public space for him to what he is used to, and if in a foreign country expected to be given the same public leeway so to speak is an error. Demanding it is just not on, at least to my mind.
That's like saying it's his fault for being attacked because with brown skin, he should have known better than to come to Poland.
Chemikiem I'll make my points (yes, I do have a point to make or two:) just bear with me) after I'll address your points.
I disagree it is as saying - this is not your country, you should tune yourselves better to its ways.
Still, as I have stated repeatedly it is very unprofessional, they shouldn't have said it to him, that is clear and beside the point.
Reading into it something else than poor standards of the police in Poland is a simply misunderstanding of the circumstances and issues involved and is a kind of a cultural prejudice we are all oft guilty off.
Those policemen havening no understanding how that trifle issue (for them) of someone coming to blows with a bouncer (because I'm sure it wasn't first or the last time when someone had some alteration with bouncers) will be viewed abroad, said what they said meaning well.
I agree to an extent, especially outside of cities, but even so, that is no justification for the treatment that Sikh received.
You see but that bouncer was perfectly within his rights to deny him the entry. You might not like it nor you need to but that is a fact that is overlooked by the press.
According to the law saying you are not going in buster - is perfectly legitimate. Hence that Shih remonstrating with that bouncer put himself into ambiguous position in the eyes of the law in Poland. If a Pole would be in his place he wouldn't have a slim chance to win in court against that bouncer unless he would have sustained serious injuries!
Well when the friends you are with have all been admitted to the club, and you are stopped and denied entry, the usual course of action would be to ask why.
No, I meant what he was complain about to the police? As you see being bared from entry is not against the law.
It has in all countries Iron, and I can understand this, people are scared, but it's not acceptable that anyone with dark skin should be targeted because they look different
Chemikiem I'm with you on that point as I have made it clear from the start. I only object to the ways that case has been misreported and misread in the press. Also I think that each country should devise such solutions and laws to address those issues as they seem fit and proper rather follow blindly ways of the others.
are far less racially motivated assaults than in other countries, but they are increasing, that is the problem
Are they increasing? I don't know, after all if they increased that would be only after Germany and then EU got that idea to send those illegal immigrants to Europe to all countries - what did they expect?
Solution - solve that problem and those assault flamed by the news will decrease.
I do get the impression that you don't want to hear a bad word said about how things are conducted in Poland
1. Chemikiem - not at all, as I have written repeatedly here I disagree with the way that case has been misrepresented that is all.
2. I said that the police is Poland is not very professional and they fail in properly response to the complain made by the Shih stems from the fact that they couldn't be bothered with the paper work involved that would be needed if they would have officially reported that incident rather than from their alleged 'racism'.
3. Excuse me Chemikiem but people in Poland know better without special laws and stuff.
4. I think that there is no need for the special 'racial' laws in Poland and if ever that need arise then those issues can be addressed by Poland on her own - no need for helpful hands and all that, thank you!.
but Poland isn't perfect,
Geez Chemikiem I never claimed that Poland is perfect. Hardly, if you would read closely what I have been writing here you would have known that I'm extremely critical about Poland to the point that I said that all that alleged 'elite' in Poland are just a scum and they need to be replaced and Poland needs to be make anew as a workable country that is not so hostile to its own people.
Majority of voters in Poland agree with me hence PiS won an election with the promises of the major change - as they put it a good change!
You can't sweep racist crimes under the carpet and hope they will disappear.
Sorry, an assault is assault there no need to debate about that, all assaults and crimes should be and are punishable by the law and no one says any different. Saying that there is not need at least in Poland for a all new category of a racist crime to be introduced to the Polish legal system that at any rate need to be fixed it to work at all.
Poland ends up being forced to take in refugees.
That would end up with Poland's exit from the EU. That is a crazy idea, I wonder why none can see that?
I would imagine this data would have to have been documented from reports. If he's not able to back it up, that's going to come back to haunt him.
I honestly don't know Chemikiem, so I can't say. However I wouldn't be surprised if he would somehow pulled the data from his backside, wouldn't be the first!
On what basis?
On a basis of him being a real D!
By the way Chemikiem I'm sorry for misspellings and grammatical mistakes I'm making and I know that it makes reading less pleasant but honestly I would have to read it again and correct all the errors- and I can't be bothered. I'm really Sorry, hope you'll not hold it against me!
All the best