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NATO expansion in northern Europe - great news for Poland


Bobko 25 | 2,131
28 Feb 2024 #91
America is 95% of the globe

There should only be 3 or 4 countries in the world - like in George Orwell's 1984.

We keep Africa neutral, and that's where we all meet to bash each other's brains in.
Novichok 4 | 8,220
28 Feb 2024 #92
That is ridiculous

What else should the US consider?
Korvinus 3 | 520
28 Feb 2024 #93
The surest way to start WW3 is to corner a guy with nukes, call him names, rattle his cage, and run to Mommy when he kicks you on the balls.

People like you would advise us to be weak and defenceless. Then the Russians would never attack us, right? Right?

You don't discourage a bully by being weak. That's not how that works. Si vis pacem, para bellum.
Joker 3 | 2,343
28 Feb 2024 #94
People like you would advise us to be weak and defenceles

Nobody is weak and feckless as Joe Biden. He created the conditions for the 2 wars we are witnessing right now and he keeps bumbling and bumbling everyday.

I was just watching JFK Jr (I) and if he gets elected President he would not give Ukraine on more penny of the US taxpayers money. He stated this is a war of choice and could be easily settled. He also will immediately shut down our border on his first day and start building the wall again.

What else should the US consider?

Im a registered Independent and JFK may be worth taking a look at.. All he needs is 34% of the vote to win. Anyone would be better than the demented Biden.
Lyzko 45 | 9,454
28 Feb 2024 #95
As Sweden's in, Finland's sure to follow.
mafketis 37 | 10,945
28 Feb 2024 #96
e stated this is a war of choice and could be easily settled

So he wants to surrender..... no.
Miloslaw 19 | 5,038
28 Feb 2024 #97
I was just watching JFK Jr (I) and if he gets elected President he would not give Ukraine one more penny of the US taxpayers money.

I think that would be a massive mistake,because if Ukraine lose this war it will embolden Putin to go for more invasions and the Baltic states are prime targets.

That would be WW3.
Do you really think the USA would not be sucked into that?
No.Better to solve the "Russia Problem" now in Ukraine rather than let it fester......
mafketis 37 | 10,945
28 Feb 2024 #98
I think that would be a massive mistake

He's making the classic mistake of assuming putain is a rational actor.... he's not. A rational actor wouldn't have started the war or would have taken an available off ramp a lot earlier.

He's a crazy ideologue who wants to take over most of Europe and most republicans are cowards who are fine with that.....
Korvinus 3 | 520
28 Feb 2024 #99
Historically, deals never worked with Russia. Being friendly also didn't worked. Russia made the unique military alliance in the human history to only attack its own members due their internal decisions.

Russia is literally the 15 felony niger next door who keeps crying about racism every time someone calls the cops.

provocation
mafketis 37 | 10,945
28 Feb 2024 #100
deals never worked with Russia

And stupendous idiots talk about 'negotiated peace' when russia publicly says it would just use a peace deal to rearm and attack again....

Being friendly also didn't worked

Never be nice from a place of strength to a narcissist.... it just enrages them.

ussia is literally the 15 felony ...next door

russia is the 15 felony burglar next door who tries to make you feel guilty for installing an alarm
amiga500 4 | 1,541
28 Feb 2024 #101
Historically, deals never worked with Russia.

What about the Moscow Peace Treaty signed after the Finnish-Soviet War in 1940?
Alien 21 | 5,116
28 Feb 2024 #102
What about

They received such beatings from the Finns that they had no choice but to stick to this treaty.
Korvinus 3 | 520
28 Feb 2024 #103
What about the Moscow Peace Treaty signed after the Finnish-Soviet War in 1940?

Just preempting installation of locks on the doors this time.
Miloslaw 19 | 5,038
28 Feb 2024 #104
He's making the classic mistake of assuming putain is a rational actor.

Agreed 100%

Historically, deals never worked with Russia

Of course not, Russia is completely untrustworthy.

They received such beatings from the Finns that they had no choice but to stick to this treaty.

That is true.......
Novichok 4 | 8,220
28 Feb 2024 #105
People like you would advise us to be weak and defenceless.

Just the opposite...Be strong, be brave, and kick ass all you want...on your own.

it will embolden Putin to go for more invasions and the Baltic states are prime targets.

1. The Baltics were part of the USSR for decades and the US was fine with it.
2. Russia had the Baltics and gave them up as useless. Getting them back would serve no purpose.
3. Russia will not go for the Baltics because Europe has two nuclear powers, money, and armies.

They received such beatings from the Finns that they had no choice but to stick to this treaty.

There you go...

So no fear that Russia would attack Finns, Swedes, Danes, Norwegians, Brits, Irish, France, Germany, Poland, Belgium, Netherlands, Lichtenstein, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Greece, Albania, Andora, and Monaco.

The US would be very happy to advise you on how to make your armies LGBT-friendly to improve the morale of your troops.
amiga500 4 | 1,541
29 Feb 2024 #106
They received such beatings from the Finns that they had no choice but to stick to this treaty.

Or they were happy with the lands that Finland had to give up, as they regarded them as historically russian.
mafketis 37 | 10,945
29 Feb 2024 #107
they regarded them as historically russian.

Who cares what those losers think?

Medvedev's definition of the russian world was Lisbon to Vladivostok.... russians are unhinged dangerous psychos.
amiga500 4 | 1,541
29 Feb 2024 #108
Who cares what those losers think?

If those losers are at the gates of Kiev in 12 months, (without negotiations) would they still be losers or would have they outsmarted, outplayed and outballed the collective west?

Medvedev's definition of the russian world was Lisbon to Vladivostok....

The drunkard is just mangling Gorbachev's words which reffered to a shared european home ie idealistic/foolish vision.
mafketis 37 | 10,945
29 Feb 2024 #109
outsmarted, outplayed and outballed

no they just corrupted the republican party (at least michael johnson) at a critical juncture.... (and western europe has been mostly useless still hoping for rationality to win out)

just mangling Gorbachev's words

The one time that russians tell the truth is when they talk about their territorial ambitions and foolish rational westerners refuse to believe it because it's nuts....
amiga500 4 | 1,541
29 Feb 2024 #110
The one time that russians tell the truth is when they talk about their territorial ambitions

Medvedev's just trolling you on twitter after a bottle of vodka and you take his gibberish as the gospel. Who's the foolish one? As you well know he has no power, his position as deputy of the NSC was created for him and is purely symbolic. I pity the poor fools lost in the synthetic social media swamp, endlessly scrolling for hours for another nugget, their mind hacked and reprogrammed by the algorithm. Your attention span must be shot to pieces by now, how about posting some long form analysis for a change?
amiga500 4 | 1,541
29 Feb 2024 #111
Do you have a NAFO hashtag and a customised Shiba Inu dog avatar on your twitter profile by any chance?

Nafo
mafketis 37 | 10,945
29 Feb 2024 #112
just trolling you on twitter after a bottle of vodka and you take his gibberish as the gospel

No... he says crazy stuff to stay alive. A major internal worry of those at the top of the current russian system is that the West will support one. So Medvedev (as former president or prime minister or whatever the h3ll) has to make sure that his public image is that of an unstable character the West would never reach out to.

But the specific nature of the crazy things he says are absolutely in line with russian state media which also talks about such things. Posters saying "Alaska nasha" (Alaska is ours) might seem crazy to rational people but russians take it deadly seriously.....
Mr Grunwald 32 | 2,182
29 Feb 2024 #113
There should only be 3 or 4 countries in the world

That would be worst possible solution, not only would it halt progress, it would slow down or halt efficiency at local level. Corruption would increase cause decision making would be made in an area that has no clue about local conditions and people will prefer to pay money under the table instead of waiting for a long waited rejection.

Also much needed reforms will be blocked by power hungry leadership that will have access to larger armies then ever before, just not used against other states. Cause the only states left will have nuclear weapons

It will slowly dissolve over time and pop up like Austria-Hungary with too many unknown factors to be sure wether or not globe won't be blown up
Korvinus 3 | 520
29 Feb 2024 #114
Just the opposite...Be strong, be brave, and kick ass all you want...on your own.

You would want Poland to remain without NATO. And then if Russia invaded Poland you would say "Oh well, sorry guys we underestimated Russian threat"

Poland joined NATO and is not being invaded by Russia. Ukraine did not join NATO and is being invaded by Russia right now. If Poland did not join NATO, Russia would have been invading Poland right now...

And if it wasn't for NATO, Baltic States would have probably fallen victim to the invasion already. After all, without their allies they'd be a much easier prey than Ukraine.

So no fear that Russia would attack

Russia invaded dozens of countries, Russia invaded even its own allies.
Novichok 4 | 8,220
29 Feb 2024 #115
You would want Poland to remain without NATO.

No.

I want the US to become NATO-free since NATO is a US parasite the US needs like I need another prostate cancer. Useless, expensive to deal with, and can kill you...

And if it wasn't for NATO, the Baltic States would have probably fallen victim to the invasion already.

Americans don't give a fvck about the Baltic States - including those few who can find them on the map.

We didn't when they used to be Soviet republics...and the sun was rising in the morning...day after day...

Russia invaded dozens of countries Russia invaded even its own allies.

Russia invades buffer zones that are critical to Russia's existence. The US invades places thousands of miles away to justify NATO and a 1 trillion dollar "defense" budget - a taxpayer ripoff that has nothing to do with US security.
Korvinus 3 | 520
29 Feb 2024 #116
I want the US to become NATO-free since NATO is a US parasite

So we should be much more thankful, without the USA we in West Europe would be in deep, deep sh*it and Ukraine wouldnt even be fighting any more.

Russia invades buffer zones that are critical to Russia's existence.

But there is no longer any Russian sphere of influence outside of Belarus. Losers cant maintain its colonies and sphere of influence and Russia lost cold war and its former territories now hate Russia.
Miloslaw 19 | 5,038
29 Feb 2024 #117
The Baltics were part of the USSR for decades and the US was fine with it.

The US was fine with it?

Who cares what the US thinks?

The US is still a very powerful state, but you overestimate it's importance.
Miloslaw 19 | 5,038
29 Feb 2024 #118
Americans don't give a fvck about the Baltic States

Bollox!!

Russia invaded dozens of countries, Russia invaded even its own allies.

Absolutely.
Novichok 4 | 8,220
29 Feb 2024 #119
Russia invaded dozens of countries Russia invaded even its own allies.

Russia invades buffer zones that are critical to Russia's existence. The US invades places thousands of miles away to justify NATO and a 1 trillion dollar "defense" budget - a taxpayer ripoff that has nothing to do with US security.

without the USA we in West Europe would be in deep, deep sh*it and Ukraine wouldn't even be fighting anymore.

That's your problem. If that's the case, you should pay the US for being your cops and bodyguards. What would be a fair annual fee?

Without the US, that war would last a month, and 500,000 Ukrainians would be alive today.

Bollox!!

Americans don't give a fvck about America or they would be demonstrating in front of the Out House every single weekend to close the damn border.

They would rather watch sports.
Novichok 4 | 8,220
29 Feb 2024 #120
its former territories now hate Russia.

You must be Polish or a woman...

There is not such thing as love, hate, or friendship among countries. Only common interests.

Germany was buying gas from a country that lost 27 million people because Germany decided that the Soviets were lesser people who should be killed.


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