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NATO expansion in northern Europe - great news for Poland


Novichok 4 | 8,038
2 Jul 2022 #31
Bu.... bu..... bull........ Bullseye!!

Bu.... bu..... bull...bullsh*it! Russia didn't metastasize. NATO did.
Miloslaw 19 | 4,971
2 Jul 2022 #32
BS.
NATO has always been a defensive force.
Russia is the cancerous growth.
Novichok 4 | 8,038
2 Jul 2022 #33
NATO has always been a defensive force.

...that mysteriously found directions to Afghanistan and bombed the fu*ck out of Serbia. Sure.
Besides, any "defensive" force can become an aggressive force in a second or less.
Also, a defensive force has tanks and artillery, not 13 aircraft carriers.
Also, a defensive force stays home, not slithers to another country's borders.
Velund 1 | 631
2 Jul 2022 #34
defensive force

You are misunderstanding the term. NATO defends financial interests of someone who are behind the scene of US political circus. And area of their interests is whole world. Small NATO members is just a cannon fodder in this game. It is very bad to have too much coffins coming to the land where "masters of the world" reside, so coffins will come to Poland, Germany, etc....
Miloslaw 19 | 4,971
2 Jul 2022 #35
@Novichok

As if you care about what Americans and their allies did to Middle Easterns....LOL!!
You spemd.a lot of your time arguing that America and Europe should not be letting these people in.
Nothing but crocodile tears.....
RussianAntiPutin 8 | 242
2 Jul 2022 #36
Paulina- Russia is the unwanted cancer

Miloslaw- Russia is the cancerous growth

Russian politics, Russian army or... Russia as a country, it's culture and Russian people?
Novichok 4 | 8,038
2 Jul 2022 #37
You are misunderstanding the term.

You misunderstood my post. I never claimed NATO is "defensive". Others did and I was quoting them.

As if you care about what Americans and their allies did to Middle Easterns....LOL!!

Yes, I do. These fu*cking idiots spent trillions we, the US taxpayers, are stuck with now as debt - plus interest that will forever lead to budget deficits and INFLATION!!! Duh!

Think before you post more moronisms like this one...
Miloslaw 19 | 4,971
2 Jul 2022 #38
@RussianAntiPutin

Russia's leaders are.the cancer.
Russian people are the answer and solution but I fear that that thy are too scared to stand up and be counted.
Novichok 4 | 8,038
2 Jul 2022 #39
thy are too scared to stand up and be counted.

...as opposed to the Brits and Americans who so bravely stood up to their rulers and against Iraq and Afghanistan.
Miloslaw 19 | 4,971
2 Jul 2022 #40
@Novichok
????
What relevance has that?
mafketis 37 | 10,905
2 Jul 2022 #41
You misunderstood my post. I never claimed NATO is "defensive"

if not for NATO you never would have been able to leave Poland (pretending your story is true)

you should fall to your knees and thank the heavens for NATO every night of your sad, lonely existence!
Miloslaw 19 | 4,971
2 Jul 2022 #42
if not for NATO you never would have been able to leave Poland

Reflect on that Rich and wise up!
Novichok 4 | 8,038
3 Jul 2022 #43
What relevance has that?

Western European men are the epitome of cowardice in dealing with their ruling mobs. Yet, you expect the Russians to rise against their rulers.
That's the relevance.

if not for NATO you never would have been able to leave Poland

You are lying just to say something.

Reflect on that Rich and wise up!

I did. He is lying.
mafketis 37 | 10,905
3 Jul 2022 #44
You are lying just to say something.

No, without NATO the Soviets would have steadily moved west and leaving would have been as hard as in the USSR (or worse).

So, say thank you to NATO or admit your story is made up.
Novichok 4 | 8,038
3 Jul 2022 #45
No, without NATO the Soviets would have steadily moved

You forgot to add the nukes over H and N. Without them I would now be a poor retiree in (name the poorest town in Poland).

The Soviets would trip over the US, not NATO. In 1966, NATO was a desk with a speed-dial phone to DC. Today, NATO is a desk with a speed-dial phone to DC and a rule book in Polish, Latvian, Lithuanian, and Estonian.
jon357 74 | 22,050
3 Jul 2022 #46
So, say thank you to NATO or admit your story is made up.

I doubt he'll do either.

NATO expansion is a very welcome development.
Novichok 4 | 8,038
3 Jul 2022 #47
I doubt he'll do either.

Thank you, PRL. There...I just did.
jon357 74 | 22,050
3 Jul 2022 #48
the Soviets would have steadily moved west

That that was their plan. They actually contemplated a race to try and get Denmark.

PRL

Pipe down. You don't need to comment in every thread.
OP pawian 224 | 24,455
5 Jul 2022 #49
Sweden and Finland membership in NATO.

Of course, the military cooperation with the candidate states began long ago. E.g, Polish ships go to Swedish training location to practise naval rocket shooting. Those antinaval missile systems were bought in Sweden.

zbiam.pl/polskie-okrety-na-szwedzkim-poligonie-rakietowym/
OP pawian 224 | 24,455
27 Jul 2022 #50
Hey, Crow, what do you think of President Duda signing the Polish approval for Fins and Swedes in NATO??

Checking photos from Moscow, I spotted an amaSSing propaganda poster which reminded me of communist times - Soviet and Polish comrades also published similar posters, especially in the stalinist era.

Do you recognise the puppets that Uncle Sam is playing|????







OP pawian 224 | 24,455
10 Aug 2022 #51
Venerable US President Joe Biden signed accession protocols on Tuesday approving the admission of Finland and Sweden to NATO . This means that the expansion of the Alliance has already been ratified by 23 out of 30 member states.

"This is a landmark moment in the history of the Alliance," said the American leader. He stressed that the admission of two Nordic states would make NATO stronger than ever.

Hey, RuSSists, is that what you really wanted to achieve??? :):):)



Miloslaw 19 | 4,971
10 Aug 2022 #52
Venerable US President Joe Biden signed accession protocols on Tuesday approving the admission of Finland and Sweden to NATO

That is all well and good but Biden is not venerable...he is barely coherent!

He needs to stand down as he suffers from dementia.
Alien 20 | 5,019
11 Aug 2022 #53
@Miloslaw
In this crazy world it's good to have a little dementia and I would say, better dementia than a hangover like putin after NATO enlargement.
OP pawian 224 | 24,455
12 Aug 2022 #54
but Biden is not venerable

Darling, he is to many people. That you aren`t one of them doesn`t mean he isn `t. Simple.

he suffers

Comparing you and him, he is in a very good mental condition. :):)

better dementia than a hangover like putin after NATO enlargement.

:):):) Funny.
Lyzko 45 | 9,436
12 Aug 2022 #55
Swedes have mixed reactions though. Haven't had contact with Finns of late, but I think historically the Swedes rather enjoyed their reputation for neutrality, much like the Swiss (with whom they're sometimes confused here in the States) and are not big joiners.
OP pawian 224 | 24,455
12 Aug 2022 #56
much like the Swiss

The Swiss can afford being neutral while they are surrounded and thus protected by NATO countries. Sweden is in another situation, though. Let alone Finland. :):):)
Lyzko 45 | 9,436
12 Aug 2022 #57
The point is that both countries have pursued a degree of so-called "neutrality" bordering on isolationism! Nice to see a sea change in the government of at least one of them, finally a sense of teamwork, being members of the club, not merely of some abstraction known as "Europe".
OP pawian 224 | 24,455
12 Aug 2022 #58
both countries have pursued a degree of so-called "neutrality" bordering on isolationism!

Yes, but looking at the example of Ukraine right now, they reconsidered their old approach as infantile. :):):) Do you think it was groundless??? :):):)
Lyzko 45 | 9,436
13 Aug 2022 #59
It depends here on what you term "old approach", pawian. If what you mean is that Ukraine should continue to remain the dumping ground, that is, whipping boy for Kremlin bullying, obviously the answer is no.
OP pawian 224 | 24,455
13 Aug 2022 #60
It depends here on what you term "old approach",

By the term od approach I meant what you mentioned yourself :
so-called "neutrality" bordering on isolationism!


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