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Karol Nawrocki - the New President of Poland


OP Alien  28 | 6962
21 Jun 2025   #361
it's likely that Nawrocki actually lost.

It would be a huge scandal. There would be new elections.
cms neuf  1 | 1959
21 Jun 2025   #362
Where is this spreadsheet from ?
amiga500  5 | 1678
21 Jun 2025   #363
a sample recount was held in 13.

It wasn't a sample recount you hafwit. It was ordered by the high court (that po does not recognize) because the were specific complaints in that electoral commission. They were found to be honest mistakes. If there are any further valid complaints then the court will order further recounts.

Don't forget that every election count was observed by all parties.

You're wild conspiracy theory is at Donald Trump levels.
jon357  73 | 24404
21 Jun 2025   #364
you hafwit

Behave.

hafwit. It was ordered by the high court (that po does not recognise) because the were specific complaints in that electoral commission

So a sample recount.

Most countries just do recounts on the night.

mistakes

They need to do a full recount, given that the 'mistakes' all favoured the candidate from a party with a high level of corruption at a local level.
amiga500  5 | 1678
21 Jun 2025   #365
They need to do a full recount

There is no provision in Polish electoral law for this.
jon357  73 | 24404
21 Jun 2025   #366
Why not? The Sejm had better act on this quickly.

A recount is clearly need3d given that 10 of the 13 recounts showed significant 'mistakes' in favour of the most corrupt party's candidate.
amiga500  5 | 1678
21 Jun 2025   #367
Maybe they should do a real sample recount of 10 random sites to still your beating heart.

Or just follow the procedure and act on electoral complaints like any sane country would do.

You sound microchips in the vaccine level nuts, what's next a july 6th march on the presidential palace?
jon357  73 | 24404
21 Jun 2025   #368
Maybe they should do a real sample recount

Or a full recount to be belt and braces careful.
cms neuf  1 | 1959
21 Jun 2025   #369
Where is the spreadsheet from ?

Looks pretty rudimentary and surely would need to be some pretty extensive evidence before we turn our democratic system upside down ?

I thought the elections were observed by international expert? Isn't that normally the case?
jon357  73 | 24404
21 Jun 2025   #370
observed

They can't observe every last detail.

It is telling that PiS are so viciously against any recounts.
mafketis  41 | 11436
21 Jun 2025   #371
It is telling that PiS are so viciously against any recounts.

Yes. No 'winning' party is ever happy about recounts but when they go into meltdown mode.... that might be a clue something's up.
cms neuf  1 | 1959
21 Jun 2025   #372
400.000 votes difference - so a swing of 200k. Quite a tall order to find them. Possible to fiddle in North Nigeria - more difficult with observers and journalists present

Can I ask for the third time where the spreadsheet came from and if there is some better evidence?
jon357  73 | 24404
21 Jun 2025   #373
that might be a clue something's up.

Precisely.

If there's even a suspicion of inaccuracy, a recount needs to be done.

I'm surprised they don't do them on the night however it is a positive thing that 13 have been done.
amiga500  5 | 1678
21 Jun 2025   #374
I'm surprised

Indeed. We are all surprised at you refusing to answer cms's pertinent question.

It just makes you sound even more deranged lol.

Caught out posting propaganda lies to destabilize polish democracy. You should be ashamed of yourself.
jon357  73 | 24404
21 Jun 2025   #375
You support PiS, so obviously you dislike the allegations of fraud against them, the results of the recount so far, and of course the prospect of 1000 more.
amiga500  5 | 1678
21 Jun 2025   #376
I bet it came from the same place as that electoral map of Poland A and Poland B you posted that looked like it was made in MS Paint or crayons

To nie sok zburaka to ścieki ztwojej dupy hahaha
jon357  73 | 24404
21 Jun 2025   #377
So, if you're confident that no serious irregularities or serious errors will be found, why not support a full and immediate recount?
amiga500  5 | 1678
21 Jun 2025   #378
So if you are so confident that there isn't five kilos of heroin in your apartment because a clipseal bag was found in the stairwell why don't you give me the key and let me search every nook and cranny?

Answer: it's called perspective and proportionality
jon357  73 | 24404
21 Jun 2025   #379
a clipseal bag was found in the stairwell

10 out of 13 recounts shown to have significant errors is rather different.

Let's have a full recount. If PiS have nothing to be afraid of, why would the6 worry?
amiga500  5 | 1678
21 Jun 2025   #380
You should listen to comrade Zandberg on the issue instead of being a fluffer for PO.
Ironside  51 | 13338
2 days ago   #381
Looks like it's getting complicated.

Looks like you don't know what you are talking about. I'm too lazy to explain it to you.
One thing is certain: if the current government would like to overturn the result of the last elections, they are in for a big surprise - the kind they wouldn't like.


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