Goodbye Sunday Shopping in Poland - Hello Electoral Reform

Some Polish pasta is okay, but it tends to go from undercooked to overcooked and soggy in the blink of an eye. Italian pasta is better, and French pasta is even better....

All big towns are close to full employment and there are plenty of other options for workers in other industries. The ironic thing is that conditions in retail are better than in many other industries.

The effect of this law is that hundreds of thousands of people who had stable work patterns now will have to change them as hours are extended on the other 6 days. A tiny proportion of retail employees belong to 5e trade unions who initiated this change

The funny part is that work inspectors (or whatever inspektorzy pracy are called in English) are forced to work on Sundays to make sure the new law isn't broken :)

Have you heard the phrases "There's no barbed wire round the job" of "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen"? This is not communism. Nobody told the person in question they have to work in Biedronka.

Kaufland kapyrs. Same price. Good tucker. Here to help:) Italians don't do vodka. Poles don't do macaroni. Blatant protectionism is seeping in; somehow the supermarket buyers are being got at. I don't know if they are getting kickbacks, but why else are a lot of foreign brands being phased out?

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Sometimes even bad situations have their dry comedy...

@Dougpol1
I wouldn't tell difference between different types of vodka either.
That brand of pasta is pretty popular here. I don't buy it, though.
I doubt you'd see it at Biedronka- they usually sell their own stuff there.
I don't go to my local Kaufland. I don't like it there. You obviously got your pasta.
There used to be an action called Teraz Polska that promoted Polish producers but that doesn't mean they got rid of other producers.
For example, I haven't been able to get olej kujawski at my local Auchan but I don't suspect conspiracy behind it.
When it comes to the reform, we just need to wait and see.

it's hard for me to get toooo worked up about it, a day without consuming.... oh my god the sky is falling!

there's much better stuff going on for enemies of PiS to get their teeth into but since I refuse to start new threads nobody's addressing them, like the government giving themselves bonuses and morawiecki trying to conceal his wealth...

Wasn't there a scandal about that organisation?


Pretty hard for some families who work through the week.

Oh because none of the shampoo socialists and linousine liberals have secret bank accounts secret shares in companies and offshore properties worth millions despite official.six figure salaries. Nope theyre all angels right maf?

What on earth makes you think I'm suggesting that? You really read _waaaaaay_ too much into some things that people write.

Or Kaczynski famously without a bank account you mean?


I know what you mean. A certain "atmosphere." Some good deals nonetheless:) When it's actually open. :( :(

Yes it's all stored in an underground vault no doubt :D probably the same bunker where he plans to hide out if 'they' ever come after him.

Honestly speaking, I liked shopping on Sundays. I'm often tired after work so Sunday shopping was just fine. But I'll have to get used to what we have now. Some more people will have a rest on Sundays.

Since most big shops are open 7-21 six days a week, there's enough time to do shopping.
I just hope the reform won't negatively influence supermarket workers.
I haven't heard about any scandal with Teraz Polska but since it's got Polska in its name, there must have been some, right, Jon? Tell me all about it.

There are some good memes about the reform, BTW ;)

What even to go shoe shopping!!

Really? It certainly did have one, quite well publicised at the time. Corruption.

You can always pretend it didn't.

Personally I rarely go shopping on Sundays, however for busy families, especially where they have to be elsewhere on Saturday, Sunday shopping is a good thing.

Source?
Not only do I remember nothing, I found no results in Google search.

@dolnoslask
That's what I had weekends for :)

You finally accepted that lyzko knows more about Polish people than you (since he's had so much more experience with them), when will you accept that jon knows far more about things happening in the country? If he says there was a scandal then of course there was a scandal and there's something wrong with you if you don't believe him.

Get with the program!

I do!
He told me to pretend it didn't happen. And I am!
But deep in my heart I know he's right. He always knows best. Even if he has nothing to support his claims.

Seriously speaking, freedom of speech is one thing, the laws of libel and slander another. But perhaps I'm wrong. I might gave googled wrong words or bloody Poles manipulated Google search results.

The argument that people have 6 other days to do their shopping doesn't really work for me. Many people essentially have 2 days to do their shopping, at larger stores that is, as they often return home from work in the evening and have other responsibilities besides wandering around Carrefour for a couple of hours. Who goes to Ikea on Tuesday evening? This law cut people's ability to do certain kinds of shopping in half.

Last week was OK because it was warm and lots of people were outside in the garden or doing sports. This weekend it's terrible weather so I think it's going to be more of a challenge to keep the kids occupied tomorrow.

It turns out that the wife of a PiS posel opened her shop all day (with hired staff). When a journalist who went there phoned up for comments, first she denied it had been open, then she claimed it was open for 5 minutes for a 'special customer' only, then when the journalist told her she'd bought things there, she said it was actually open for 15 minutes, and then when challenged, refused to speak.

Her husband is one of the strongest proponents of the ban on Sunday trading.


In this case yes. I'm surprised you don't remember.

And how would you or media know that she didnt make the workers working .001% owner of the business??Owners are allowed to work on sundays REMEMBER?

Not a surprise in the slightest. PiS have always been known for their utter hypocrisy, and this is just yet another example of it.

Owners can be legally paid for there work and be a hired staff.

@jon357
You need to remind me. A link?
If it happened, it should be online.
If you can't provide a link, I will be sure you're making things up again.

An MP being hypocritical???? No way!
It's not the first or last time.

@Sparks11
You don't really need to visit Ikea every weekend. As for groceries, make a list before you go. Don't wander around idly, just get things you need. You will save time.

@cms neuf
You keep kids busy by taking them shopping?

I'm not a fan of the reform. I see a lot of drawbacks. But what will grumbling change?

Sometimes yes, and especially in winter when many other attractions (zoo, park, kolejka) are either closed or forlorn looking - it gets them out the house, there are plenty of kids activities in big malls (even if open now they will be unviable) , it's warm, clean, there are toilets and plenty of place to park and if we want to buy a small toy for good behaviour then we can do so. By the way teenagers like malls - they can shop and meet girls there.

Yesterday I took one for a swim and one for a freezing walk in the forest - hope that satisfies your good parenting criteria

You don't need to visit Ikea every weekend unless you happen to be building or buying a place - like millions of young hard working Polish families are at the he moment. Then you will probably visit a lot - people don't have cash to do a years furtnuture shopping at one stroke.

For me it's about freedom to do what you want with your spare time - we pay taxes and work hard, why can't we spend weekends how we feel like it ?

Exactly. Instead, some people clearly enjoy abdicating decision making, and prefer being dictated to.

Honestly, I don't remember it either. And after a quick google search, there has come up nothing about it. Tthe explanation may be that there are too many scandals in Poland every week or this was such a minor one that it has gone deeply down in google rankings.

I maybe very vaguely remember something minor (usual crap with kickbacks or something like that) but I might be mistaken and have it confused with something else.

Since jon brought it up it's his responsibility to provide a link or accept that maybe _his_ memory isn't what it used to be... starość nie radość as they say.