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Which French candidate for president will be best for Poland?



nothanks - | 663    
28 Apr 2017  #91

That "protection" doesn't come without backroom deals. Why is Poland importing Natural Gas from USA while everyone else is riding the Nord Streams.


gregy741 3 | 1,008    
28 Apr 2017  #92

Macron is the only guarantee for Polish security in this election.

and it so happened,he just declared that he will push for sanctions against Poland and Hungary if he gets elected
making yourself a fool again?
gregy741 3 | 1,008    
28 Apr 2017  #93

and thats not the best of this idiot Macron..he basically said that becouse Polish people are being paid less ,mean Poland violate EU rules."

"We can not tolerate a country that has differences in social costs (labor costs) in the European Union and which violates all EU rules."
and thus Poland deserve sanctions..
is this guy retarded?
delphiandomine 87 | 15,827    
28 Apr 2017  #94

"We can not tolerate a country that has differences in social costs (labor costs) in the European Union and which violates all EU rules."

Which makes perfect sense. Poland is violating EU rules, while taking advantage of the EU to undercut French businesses.
Marsupial - | 937    
28 Apr 2017  #95

P3 Australia has never fired on refugee boats what are you on about. They are captured and sent to tropical prison islands where they develop mental issues and contemplate suicide. Apparantly the public want this according our fake media. So get it right p3 we do slow torture not quick death.
johnny reb 13 | 2,481    :-(
28 Apr 2017  #96

than any imaginary Muslims.

The Muslims killing innocent people in the name of Allah are not imaginary now are they.

Macron is the only guarantee for Polish security in this election.

One wonders if you only watch ONE news channel on your t.v. delph.
You seem so closed minded sometimes it just baffles me how off the mark you can sometimes be.
Have you listened to anything or know anything about Le Pen besides that she is a conservative ?
delphiandomine 87 | 15,827    
28 Apr 2017  #97

The Muslims killing innocent people in the name of Allah are not imaginary now are they.

They are a non-factor compared to the Russian build-up in Kaliningrad and the upcoming military exercises in Belarus, which will surely be a pretext to leave plenty of hardware there. Muslims are simply a non-issue.

Have you listened to anything or know anything about Le Pen besides that she is a conservative ?

I get her name right for a start.

Furthermore, she supports two key policies, both of which are very harmful for Poland. I know it's difficult for you to understand why Polish labour getting blocked from France is a problem, and I know you don't understand why Russia is a problem, but do try and see it from the Polish perspective.
nothanks - | 663    
29 Apr 2017  #98

Delph, why are you persistent on defending Muslims "non-issue"? I say screw both Russian and Muslims. But you are focused on making us choose when the issues are not connected and both could be denied
johnny reb 13 | 2,481    :-(
29 Apr 2017  #99

They are a non-factor compared to the Russian build-up in Kaliningrad

No more of a build up then the Nukes NATO put in Romania for a deterrent to Russia's build up.
Do you pay attention at all ?

I know it's difficult for you to understand why Polish labour getting blocked from France is a problem,

Right now there is a HUGE number of economic Muslim immigrants in France that need to be taken care of making them priority workers over foreign workers.

Oh wait, you just said that the Muslims were not a problem to Poland.

I know you don't understand why Russia is a problem

Russia is much more of a problem to the United States then it is to Poland
I don't think you understand.
mafketis 16 | 4,733    
29 Apr 2017  #100

"Right now there is a HUGE number of economic Muslim immigrants in France that need to be taken care of making them priority workers over foreign workers"

Rotsa ruck! No country in Europe has managed to do much with immigrants from Muslim/AFrican countries.

By foreign, you mean European (according to Macron's own agenda Poland is not a foreign country)

It just hit me: One reason governments in Western Europe don't like Eastern European (like Polish) immigration is that they do far better than the immigrants they've been so determined to bring to the continent and show what I lie the idea that large numbers of North Africans are needed.
delphiandomine 87 | 15,827    
29 Apr 2017  #101

Russia is much more of a problem to the United States then it is to Poland

I don't think you have a clue about Poland if you're making such a statement.
kondzior 8 | 886    
29 Apr 2017  #102

Le Pen can't fight the Muslim lobby, Liberal lobby and Jewish lobby at the same time - it's stupid to even try.
In Russia they embraced the Jewish lobby and they elected Putin, in Turkey they made amends with Israel and Erdogan stays in power, there's no country in the world that picks a fight with the Jews and remains stable, not even Chinese mess up with them. Only Arabs fight the Jews and only because they are too dumb to care about dying or being the dumbest poorest losers on the planet. Trump was very pro-Israel, if he was not he would not have won the election straight up.
jon357 70 | 12,786    
29 Apr 2017  #103

Furthermore, she supports two key policies, both of which are very harmful for Poland

And quite a few more harmful things. One reason why she's so toxic to most French voters.
johnny reb 13 | 2,481    :-(
29 Apr 2017  #104

I don't think

What you think or don't think is just your opinion which is basically meaningless.

: One reason governments in Western Europe don't like Eastern European

Western Europe doesn't like Eastern Europe, Muslims, the United States, God or anything else that is not just about themselves.
This French election is turning out to be exactly like President Trump winning over cock sure Crooked Hillary.
Le Pen, like President Trump, knows that the open borders of a country must be closed and protected in this day and age.
The good old days are long over never to be again.
Marine Le Pen is predicted to gain 41 per cent of the French election vote, up four percent from earlier this week, according to a poll.

She is closing the gap with centrist rival Emmanuel Macron.
She would be the best thing Oland could ever hope for.
Wouldn't it be great by chance if she won just to watch the Lefties have another melt down.
For sure the Left would blame her victory on Russia hacking the election. lol
gregy741 3 | 1,008    
29 Apr 2017  #105

For sure the Left would blame her victory on Russia hacking the election. lol

they already got article prepared :

politico.eu/article/france-election-2017-russia-hacked-cyberattacks/
jon357 70 | 12,786    
29 Apr 2017  #106

Or maybe, Greggs, the website is just reporting the truth. It's no secret that Putin has funded the fascist Le Pen. She has admitted it.
johnny reb 13 | 2,481    :-(
29 Apr 2017  #107

fascist Le Pen

LOL - she hasn't even won yet and the Lefties have already started their melt down with their name calling.
delphiandomine 87 | 15,827    
29 Apr 2017  #108

What you think or don't think is just your opinion which is basically meaningless.

I find it very fascinating that you're promoting the candidate that directly threatens Poland. Perhaps you'd like to explain that?

Le Pen "closing the borders" means trouble for Poles. Le Pen ending sanctions against Russia means trouble for Poles. Yet you're on PolishForums promoting such a candidate. How cheeky.
johnny reb 13 | 2,481    :-(
29 Apr 2017  #109

Le Pen "closing the borders" means trouble for Poles.

Le Pen closing borders is to protect the people of France which is her first duty to France.
If your toes get stepped on because of it then sad to bad.
Will there still not be work visa's for the Olish people ?

Perhaps you'd like to explain that?

You have already asked that same question and it has been already answered in the above posts.
Perhaps you should go back and read them.
delphiandomine 87 | 15,827    
29 Apr 2017  #110

If your toes get stepped on because of it then sad to bad.

I don't think Polish families think that way.
johnny reb 13 | 2,481    :-(
29 Apr 2017  #111

Well you are not Polish now are you so nothing for you to worry about.
You are saying that Polish people think it is France's responsibility to employ Poland ?
Doesn't matter who gets elected, it may be gravy train over for Poland to some extent.
Poland should be worrying more about other things then who France elects.
For example:
MOSCOW (Reuters) - A U.S. deployment of ballistic missile defense systems in Romania and plans to place more defense systems in Poland violate an existing arms treaty, Russia's foreign ministry said in a statement on Saturday.

The United States switched on an $800 million missile shield in Romania nearly a year ago and was planning to create another site in Poland, seeing it as vital to defend itself and Europe from so-called rogue states.

Did you catch the key words there......."seeing it as vital to defend itself"
Le Pen in the same way has to worry about France first and then others.
Again I ask you, will all work visa's be denied if she closed the borders ?
Bieganski 15 | 811    
29 Apr 2017  #112

One reason why she's so toxic to most French voters.

She's only a problem for stale, out-of-touch, self-regarding globalist Baby Boomers who fear she'll stop immigration and thus bring their unsustainable (it never was) pension ponzi scheme crashing down before they finally kick the bucket.

She has the oh-so crucial youth vote:

In 'forgotten France', Le Pen's young backers say only she cares for them

Source: theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/09/forgotten-france-marine-le-pen-president

A generation feeling let down by traditional parties and excluded from opportunity are putting their faith in Front National victory

And lookie here, she has the trendy PC queer vote too:

How Marine Le Pen is winning France's gay vote

Source: spectator.co.uk/2015/01/how-marine-le-pen-is-winning-frances-gay-vote/#

The Front National now has the support of a quarter of Paris's gay voters

delphiandomine 87 | 15,827    
29 Apr 2017  #113

Again I ask you, will all work visa's be denied if she closed the borders ?

Yes, her plan is an immediate halt to all immigration.

She's only a problem for stale, out-of-touch, self-regarding globalist Baby Boomers

She's a huge problem for Poland. Strange that you seem keen to push a candidate funded with Russian money, isn't it?
Ironside 44 | 8,307    
29 Apr 2017  #114

Why is Poland importing Natural Gas from USA while everyone else is riding the Nord Streams.

Not to be depended on Russian ore - that is simple to comprehend.

Poland is violating EU rules, while taking advantage of the EU to undercut French businesses.@ delphiandomine

What rules? The deal was very simple - Poland opens her marked to French (amongst others) in exchange for few perks. So far Frenchies made a shitload of money in Poland including their state companies - that can change and pronto if that dumb Frog doesn't like it!

is this guy retarded?

you tell me! He married his teacher from a nursery or high school matters not. He is not normal that for sure, plus he came from French plutocracy that dude never had to work for living. A ***** slap would do wonders for his mental state.
johnny reb 13 | 2,481    :-(
29 Apr 2017  #115

You didn't answer my question delph.
How about Polish work visa's delph.
She gonna halt those also ?
What is Poland's work visa like if the French want to work in Poland ?
I think you will find that it won't matter which one gets elected that Poland will be feeling a bump in he road.
You have to admit that Le Pen however is by far the best choice.
Bieganski 15 | 811    
29 Apr 2017  #116

She's a huge problem for Poland. Strange that you seem keen to push a candidate funded with Russian money, isn't it?

And here I though it was only the Americans (especially their sore-looser lefty Democratic Party bosses and acolyte voters) spinning such neurotic conspiracy theories. At one time McCarthyism was the term used to describe the condition of seeing a "Red under every bed". What's the term now for seeing a Russian in every voting booth? LOL!

What does it matter anyway? If any of it were true then it would only prove that the Russians have more money than Soros. LOL!
Joker - | 513    
29 Apr 2017  #117

And here I though it was only the Americans

All liberals basically cry the same song. They are at their best with conspiracy theories and fake news.

The Muslims killing innocent people in the name of Allah are not imaginary now are they.

He lives in an imaginary utopian fantasy world. Too much time on the internet as well.

You have to admit that Le Pen however is by far the best choice.

She's going to win. The French are sick and tired of these terrorist attacks, I don't blame them at all.

Make France Great Again!

Im going to get the popcorn out and watch the Libby meltdown Part Duex
They are so predictable.....LoL
delphiandomine 87 | 15,827    
29 Apr 2017  #118

spinning such neurotic conspiracy theories.

Usual tactic of those that sympathise with Russia, really.

the Front National "publicly acknowledged that it had received a $9.8 million loan from a Russian bank with links to the Kremlin,

telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/21/marine-le-pens-russian-links-us-scrutiny/

It's not a secret that the FN is backed by Russia. The only strange thing is why you North American posters are so keen to push pro-Russia views and opinions on PolishForums, while also abusing enemies of Russia such as Ukraine.

You have to admit that Le Pen however is by far the best choice.

If you think that a candidate backed with Russian money is the best choice for Poland, you're in dreamland. All it does is put Russian troops one step closer to Warsaw.
Bieganski 15 | 811    
30 Apr 2017  #119

It's not a secret that the FN is backed by Russia.

It's interesting that your fake news stories alway fall short in explaining why Russia would be funding any so-called populist/nationalist presidential candidates.

You certainly don't mind though when a globalist Zionist non-state actor like Soros is splashing his cash around to fund opaquely run NGOs and anarchist groups in an attempt to shape socially malignant policies and sway politics and public opinion in his favor in democratic societies on both sides of the Atlantic.

posters are so keen to push pro-Russia views and opinions on PolishForums, while also abusing enemies of Russia such as Ukraine.

Yet, more neurotic conspiracy theories. Baiting as well. This is why I suggested those on indefinite probation should have limited daily postings with limited word counts.

But let's look at some facts.

Crimea was annexed by Russia in 2014.

The American president at the time was Barack Hussein Obama (a smirking liberal).

The French president at the time was Fran├žois Hollande (an effete liberal).

The Polish prime minister at the time was Donald Tusk (a low-key liberal).

They didn't prevent or halt the Russian annexation of Crimea nor did they do anything to have it returned Ukraine. The conflict in Donbass also flared up on their watch and the situation is still unresolved.

They could have helped Ukraine join NATO too but again did nothing.

These navel-gazing cast of characters were no friends of Ukraine and never would be.

And what did they do for Poland while the Russian bear was growling once again on her doorstep? Not much as usual. Oh, sure, now there is a token American presence but the pace to send them was glacial.

Indeed, even Defense Minister Antoni Macierewicz noted this at the time:

"We waited for decades, sometimes feeling we had been left alone, sometimes almost losing hope, sometimes feeling that we were the only one who protected civilization from aggression that came from the east,"

Source: usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/01/14/poland-us-troops-nato-arrival-atlantic-resolve/96585564

Yep, lame duck Obama finally sent them when he was leaving office and Hillary's doomed-from-the-start presidential campaign was being blamed on the Russians rather than her lack of popularity and lack of ideas.

Sending US troops to Poland was just too conveniently scripted to fit a narrative. They weren't sent there to protect Poland. They were only sent there to make it look like the Democratic Party can act tough. But only when their own political careers and influence were threatened and blamed on a convenient bogeyman for the news cycles and not when Poland's actual safety and security are at stake by a historic aggressor.

Poland is still alone.

America and France are not going to sacrifice their own blood and treasure to save Poland in a conflict with Russia.

America and France never sent troops to rebuff imperialist Russia from its land grab of Poland.

The Nazi's bloody invasion of Poland wasn't the last straw for the Americans or the French.

And it was the Americans and French who left Poland to rot behind the Iron Curtain for decades.
johnny reb 13 | 2,481    :-(
30 Apr 2017  #120

a candidate backed with Russian money

And who do you think is backing Emmanuel Rothschild delph ?
A Macron win would put Europe's second largest economy under an outspoken EU supporter who wants to establish a command center for the Continent's defense, create a border police force, loosen France's rigid labor rules, cut payroll taxes and reduce French public sector employment by 120,000.

Macron has a back ground of rubbing elbows with big bankers.
Le Pen has a back ground of rubbing elbows with big politicians.
She is much more qualified to run a country then he is.




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