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Which French candidate for president will be best for Poland?


nothanks - | 640
2 May 2017 #181
If France were so peachy then why are they close to electing a "racist Russian puppet"? Odds are if French politics weren't so heavily influenced by fifth column ethnics she would have been already elected in the past.

I'm a stupid stocky Polak. And I wouldn't trade it for anything else!
jon357 63 | 15,068
2 May 2017 #182
racist Russian puppet

They aren't.

Remember there are many issues in the current election. For some reason you seem obsessed with just one.
Marsupial - | 886
2 May 2017 #183
France is a complicated place. Nothing seems to be simple there, ever.
mafketis 23 | 8,543
2 May 2017 #184
Pick one. You can't successfully do both

The saying (in modified form) is: democracy, multiculturalism, welfare - pick any two because that is more or less workable but the conflicting demands of trying to practice all three work at the same time are not wortht the eternally diminishing returns...
cms 9 | 1,271
2 May 2017 #185
What is with all the trite quotes ?

You can have dictatorship, one ethnicity and a controlled economy - it's called North Korea. Prefer that or living somewhere like France with high living standards, good work life balance, great wine, great cheese, flirtatious women, good footballers and lots of interesting culture from all over the world ? It's not perfect of course but I go there often and I like it.
Crow 139 | 8,169
2 May 2017 #186
France need Poland for only one purpose. That is, Poland to depend on France and ultimately- to drop dead for France.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
2 May 2017 #187
France is a model to follow

Indeed, a model for sexual deviates, multi-culti freaks, arrogant Polanophobic, Cathophobic, anti-American and Islamo-anxious, frog and snail munching Francophiles.
delphiandomine 85 | 18,254
2 May 2017 #188
a model for

A large successful economy, a powerful domestic defence industry, a highly successful high speed train network, a thriving aerospace company, incredible food and drink, being the architect of European integration and so much more.
TicTacToe
2 May 2017 #189
40% youth unemployment rate is successful ?
delphiandomine 85 | 18,254
2 May 2017 #191
40% youth unemployment rate is successful ?

Actual number is 23.7%. Do try and post facts rather than myths.

I forgot to mention that it is also the most visited tourist destination in the world. Not bad, really.
TheOther 6 | 3,818
2 May 2017 #192
Actual number is 23.7%.

I told him (or her) already in post #55. Right wing nutters are obviously immune to education... :)
jon357 63 | 15,068
2 May 2017 #193
@delphiandomine
Rofled. Good one

Right wing nutters are obviously immune to education

Hence Marine Le Pen getting some votes.
delphiandomine 85 | 18,254
2 May 2017 #194
Right wing nutters are obviously immune to education... :)

They really do have a deep problem with doing even the most basic research for themselves.
Chemikiem 6 | 2,212
2 May 2017 #195
Fortunately she will lose badly to Macron.

I sincerely hope so, but look at what happened with Trump and Brexit. I don't think Macron winning is a done deal to be honest, but if she wins, I think it will spell the beginning of the end for the EU.
delphiandomine 85 | 18,254
2 May 2017 #196
I don't think Macron winning is a done deal to be honest, but if she wins, I think it will spell the beginning of the end for the EU.

I was intrigued by this possibility a few days ago, and actually, it transpires that the French President isn't anywhere near as powerful as it seems. They are mostly ceremonial in nature, but because there are elections to the National Assembly shortly afterwards, it usually meant that the party winning the Presidency would win in the National Assembly as well. In this case, there's no chance of the NF winning there, so she could potentially be a lame duck president, similar to how Lech Kaczyński was under PO.
Crnogorac3 1 | 314
2 May 2017 #197
look at what happened with Trump and Brexit. but if she wins, I think it will spell the beginning of the end for the EU.

After Brexit and Trump, if Le Pen gets the victory in the French elections it would be the final nail in the coffin for "mutti" Merkel.
jon357 63 | 15,068
2 May 2017 #198
there's no chance of the NF winning there, so she could potentially be a lame duck president, similar to how Lech Kaczyński was under PO.

Indeed. No actual power and tough opposition. Macron is leading in the polls (in France usually fairly accurate - they've had very few surprises ever) 60-40.
nothanks - | 640
2 May 2017 #199
If Le Pen loses in 2017 (which is likely) my response to every future terrorist attack, city riot and migrant flooding will be "I told you so". At least in my community I don't even see people posting about French attacks on Facebook any longer because it is simply the norm now.

I am attending the World Cup in Russia next summer and wanted to visit many European spots but I'm not gonna bother going anywhere West of Berlin (family member lives in the German capital and I want to see how much the city I wanted to migrate to only 4 years ago has changed because of the Migrant Crisis). Simply too dangerous, dirty and over run with 3rd Worlders - I could just visit Los Angeles for that
jon357 63 | 15,068
2 May 2017 #200
If Le Pen loses in 2017

The people of France don't want her. Putin might, the French don't.
nothanks - | 640
2 May 2017 #201
^ The French people have clearly lost their fighting spirit after WW1

A Le Pen victory would be the equivalent of tearing off a band aid. Chaos initially. I do believe many possibly even most Native French (who gives a **** what the fifth column ethnics think) aren't ready for that. But I will stick by my prediction: Le Pen will be elected in the near future when chaos erupts but it won't be on the Native French peoples terms by then. Instead by then the enemy will be ready and reinforced.
TheOther 6 | 3,818
2 May 2017 #202
...city riot...

Don't forget that quite a few French citizens are of Algerian or Moroccan descent for example.
jon357 63 | 15,068
2 May 2017 #203
terrorist

And with speculating whether or not the Putinists have a hand in those, somewhere down the line. They've tried to destabilise France. Neither that nor the terror has worked.
nothanks - | 640
2 May 2017 #204
TheOther, No question. Compared to England and Belgium - France is possibly beyond repair. Just too much immigration for too long and the worst kind: Mena and Africa. There will always be reinforcements of trouble makers. Man they royally screwed themselves by destroying Libya for financial reasons. But that's where greed will lead you....
nothanks - | 640
2 May 2017 #205
Jon, when terrorist attacks no longer inspire outrage or surprise - the terrorist won. I know the nut job leftist playbook argues "when your enemy kills you, you won" but reality is France is a global laughing stock. I've been increasingly hearing about the insufferable begging and theft in Paris for over a decade and those lazy boiling frogs did nothing but double down on the problem.

How on earth do you ever see France rebounding without massive deportations and serious border enforcement on its Southern border? And a fellow such as Macron has the cajones to do this? Hell no
johnny reb 24 | 4,293
2 May 2017 #206
Macron is leading in the polls (in France usually fairly accurate - they've had very few surprises ever) 60-40.

We have all witnessed the Left news agencies spewing fake news so polls are really meaningless.
The world has watched that first hand in the last year especially.
Despite the "Republican front" and Le Pen's polling below 50%, she could still become the next president of France if the differential abstention rates are in her favor and by the looks of things it wouldn't take much for that to be the case.

Merkel needs to go and Ms. Le Pen is the person to send her packing.
jon357 63 | 15,068
2 May 2017 #207
the terrorist won

And they haven't won.

massive deportations and serious border enforcement

That won't happen. The French don't want it. They want Macron.

Not everything in life boils down to your obsession with immigration.
TheOther 6 | 3,818
3 May 2017 #208
Man they royally screwed themselves by destroying Libya for financial reasons

Algeria and Morocco were French colonies. After independence, many of their people chose to move to France and become French citizens. That goes all the way back to the early 1960's and has nothing to do with the current influx of migrants and refugees. The Brits with their Commonwealth Citizens from Nigeria, Bangladesh, Pakistan and India are more or less in the same situation.

serious border enforcement on its Southern border

Most refugees/ migrants arrive in Italy and Greece, not in France AFAIK.
johnny reb 24 | 4,293
3 May 2017 #209
Not everything in life boils down to your obsession with immigration.

Well it certainly is a cornerstone in this election as France is being destroyed by them.

The French don't want it. They want Macron.

It's sounds like it's more you who wants him just like you wanted Crooked Hillary.
According to your polls over 40% want her so how can you say that "the French don't want her."
I think you are being a bit bias and not looking for what will be best for France and Europe instead of your personal ambitions.
nothanks - | 640
3 May 2017 #210
I know. That's why I stated "too much immigration for too long".

I do think one could make the argument - the best strategy would be to get the entire EU on board with reinforcing our external borders and collectively deporting people. But ultimately I just don't personally have any trust in the leftist ideology which seems to put foreigners on equal ground as citizens or even Natives. When you see the statements out of Brussels and UN - this is a planned demographic replacement. I dunno if individuals such as Jon are playing gullible on purpose or they themselves envision/hope Western Europe being another USA where there is no heritage or culture. [scratch that - the culture is that there isn't a central one]


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