We have plenty of opportunities after EU fall apart. For example - Międzymorze. An old Jagiellonian idea which is silently supported by Washington. USA will give us weapon, money and political support. So calm down, wait, and look at east. World is changing and is changing fast.
Should Poland exit the EU immediately?
Do you even realize that every object build by the EU found has to be financed by Poland's money at least to 50% of the total cost? Meaning if Poland cut by half all those investment she could easily built other half with her own founds - no need for the EU.
Are you sure about that?
And without EU funding, the institutions wouldn't be interested in the risk - what Polish money are you talking about? The Polish treasury couldn't afford a ****** in a brewery, and it weren't for the EU, people would still be dying here from silly little diseases, and the same old crap would rule, as well as outdated and amoral practices - because Poland wouldn't know any better.
Only those of a low IQ would want Poland to leave the EU, and really the rest of us shouldn't be lowering ourselves to enter into debate on this non-question.
USA will give us weapon, money and political support
I'm with Sikorsky on this one. The US will give you **** all. They despise you. It will be akin to a sexually transmitted disease. They even make you beg like dogs for a holiday visa :)
Europe together. Though you are the ingrates.
peter_olsztyn 6 | 1082
14 Sep 2015 #33
Poland should exit EU immediately.
I'm warming up my car's engine. Just in case such stupid idea becomes real ;)
The US will give you **** all.
Sikorsky is in one point of view right and i other wrong. USA need Poland. This is geopoliticall stuff. There is problem whether Poland go and do what USA need for free or will ask for support. :) The USA purpose is obvious. But USA has to preserve Poland independent and strong. This is the very important for USA as far as no1 power on the World. So. I`m calm :P
Nathans
14 Sep 2015 #35
After Poland leaves the EU, Polish migrants looking to improve their lifestyle will be welcomed with open arms in countries like Syria, Libya, UAE, Quaker, etc.
whocares
15 Sep 2015 #36
Yes Poland should leave EU or push for a different type of EU.
However, like someone else said many Poles support EU. There needs to be more problems coming from EU and Poles will change opinion. For now money talks but EU has different values from the mostly Catholic Poland.
Crow you said it well. An option is for Poland to create an Central/Eastern European like alliance (v4+baltics+ukraine+romania+serbia, etc).
The politicians should then be willing to be open to relations will all its neighbours including Russia + US + China.
However, like someone else said many Poles support EU. There needs to be more problems coming from EU and Poles will change opinion. For now money talks but EU has different values from the mostly Catholic Poland.
Crow you said it well. An option is for Poland to create an Central/Eastern European like alliance (v4+baltics+ukraine+romania+serbia, etc).
The politicians should then be willing to be open to relations will all its neighbours including Russia + US + China.
delphiandomine 86 | 17823
15 Sep 2015 #37
The politicians should then be willing to be open to relations will all its neighbours including Russia + US + China.
I don't think you understand Poland if you think that open relations with Russia are on anyone's agenda.
I don't think you understand Russia if you think that open relations with any country is on its agenda.....
Polska never changed currencies......this will end up being the straw that breaks the camels back.
EU is currently a global joke. Poland need not rustle feathers: it is all falling apart on it's own. The entire migrant situation is laughable considering these people cannot be forced to remain in Poland [even if we wanted them to]. Essentially exposing most of these "refugees" for the spoiled migrants they truly are
EU is currently a global joke. Poland need not rustle feathers: it is all falling apart on it's own. The entire migrant situation is laughable considering these people cannot be forced to remain in Poland [even if we wanted them to]. Essentially exposing most of these "refugees" for the spoiled migrants they truly are
aa11
15 Sep 2015 #40
There is talks about Baltic-Black Sea Union including Poland, Ukraine, Moldova, Baltics, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Moldova and probably Belarus and Armenia aswell.
charter97.org/en/news/2015/8/7/163541/
Even Duda talked about the decision to make this Union reality!
Poland should leave EU soon!!
charter97.org/en/news/2015/8/7/163541/
Even Duda talked about the decision to make this Union reality!
Poland should leave EU soon!!
Yes please.out of this kouhoz
G (undercover)
15 Sep 2015 #42
wiadomosci.wp.pl/kat,1356,title,Ponad-5-tys-osob-demonstrowalo-w-Dreznie-przeciwko-islamowi,wid,17846235,wiadomosc.html?ticaid=11596a&_ticrsn=5
Gerries protesting against Islamization. Notice thumbs up below the article.
Gerries protesting against Islamization. Notice thumbs up below the article.
Poland should never leave the eu and certainly not to join a union of severe mediocrity as mentioned above.
a union of severe mediocrity
Do you think Borat would be available to head this up?
Borat is the main instigator of this union of nothing.
Poland should never leave the eu
Why not? I think that is a very reasonable idea!
o join a union of severe mediocrity as mentioned above.
Focus on topic, please!
(Rest of you people like dough and few others can look for my response to your posts in random thread, evidently I'm insulting people according to mods. As if those people I name weren't insulting towards logic and reason itself in the first place.) I-S
I think it's a terrible idea but I doubt it will ever take off as anything other but hot air.
I think it's a terrible idea
Why? State your reasons man! Saying I don't like brings to mind image of a petulant child stamping his foot and crying no no!
aa11
15 Sep 2015 #49
''Poland should never leave the eu and certainly not to join a union of severe mediocrity as mentioned above.''
Fine let EU threatening Poland with alot of sanctions refusing to accept muslims into the country.
Let Poland be forced to recive these immigrants.
Fine let EU threatening Poland with alot of sanctions refusing to accept muslims into the country.
Let Poland be forced to recive these immigrants.
Poland should never leave the eu and certainly not to join a union of severe mediocrity as mentioned above.
Spot on. Any Union needs to be large and rich nations too. Poland would be the largest and richest in this one and have to give, give, give.
Fine let EU threatening Poland with alot of sanctions refusing to accept muslims into the country.
Let Poland be forced to recive these immigrants.
Let Poland be forced to recive these immigrants.
Mountains. Molehills. Burza w szklance wody.
aa11
15 Sep 2015 #51
What germany do is so wrong
ibtimes.com/eu-refugee-quotas-germany-threatens-sanctions-refusing-nations-2097209
ibtimes.com/eu-refugee-quotas-germany-threatens-sanctions-refusing-nations-2097209
G (undercover)
15 Sep 2015 #52
Isn't it telling that all these psychopats want Poland to stay in the EU so much ? Once the exit become a serious issue, watch then Gerries and others :)))) Sure they want us in so much because they love to help us :))
want Poland to stay in the EU so much ?
More, Grzegorz that Poland wants to stay in the EU.
G (undercover)
15 Sep 2015 #54
Well, the mood is surely changing, more of this shyt and bye bye EUnuchs.
Simple answer: No!
This question is mainly asked by people who don't live in the country or who are totally disillusioned about the benefits
of being part of the E.U. No A8 country will ever contemplate such an idea.
The risks far outweigh the benefits. Here are some of the statistics that many people overlook:
1.Nearly 1million Poles would be expelled from the UK - that according to Mr Tusk, himself, would be an economic disaster for a country
that has been exporting unemployment.
2. Much needed funding from the E.U for modernising, infrastructure, public institutions (including schools and hospitals), residential and recreational areas
would be stopped and that would adversely affect the development of the country.
3. Then there is funding for different projects that help to bridge the gap between the poor and the rich.
The list is endless.If you live in Poland, go to your local council or municipality website and look for funds that are coming from the E.U
Then there is the state or federal government- just check the responsible ministry websites and you will see how important E.U funding is to this country.
The develpoment we have seen in this country, in the last 10years ,would have never been realized in 20 to 30 years if Poland was not in the E.U.
There are some countries that don't need the E.U and then there are those that depend on handouts.
Sad to say, but that is a fact.
This question is mainly asked by people who don't live in the country or who are totally disillusioned about the benefits
of being part of the E.U. No A8 country will ever contemplate such an idea.
The risks far outweigh the benefits. Here are some of the statistics that many people overlook:
1.Nearly 1million Poles would be expelled from the UK - that according to Mr Tusk, himself, would be an economic disaster for a country
that has been exporting unemployment.
2. Much needed funding from the E.U for modernising, infrastructure, public institutions (including schools and hospitals), residential and recreational areas
would be stopped and that would adversely affect the development of the country.
3. Then there is funding for different projects that help to bridge the gap between the poor and the rich.
The list is endless.If you live in Poland, go to your local council or municipality website and look for funds that are coming from the E.U
Then there is the state or federal government- just check the responsible ministry websites and you will see how important E.U funding is to this country.
The develpoment we have seen in this country, in the last 10years ,would have never been realized in 20 to 30 years if Poland was not in the E.U.
There are some countries that don't need the E.U and then there are those that depend on handouts.
Sad to say, but that is a fact.
Well, the mood is surely changing,
Doesn't look that way, not from the EU approval ratings.
G (undercover)
15 Sep 2015 #57
Are they done by the same guys that claimed Bul moron to get 70% of votes :)))))) ?
Out dated statistics. Let's see how elections in one month turn out.
My prediction is Jon & "inPolska" engaging in more futile spinning
My prediction is Jon & "inPolska" engaging in more futile spinning
delphiandomine 86 | 17823
15 Sep 2015 #59
Out dated statistics. Let's see how elections in one month turn out.
Given that there's only one party that's somewhat against EU membership (Kukiz), it seems hard to imagine that elections will change anything.
1.Nearly 1million Poles would be expelled from the UK - that according to Mr Tusk, himself, would be an economic disaster for a country
Untrue, Cameron has already stated that those already employed would not be asked to leave.
Then there is the state or federal government- just check the responsible ministry websites and you will see how important E.U funding is to this country.
Responsible.
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3235460/EU-s-border-agency-spent-250-000-lavish-jolly-continent-s-guards-complete-marching-orchestra-failing-grips-migrant-crisis.html
The EU is a joke at the taxpayers expense. Everything they do is an epic, fail.