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Should Poland exit the EU immediately?


Crow 155 | 9,025
17 Sep 2015 #121
Yep I agree.

much better is to form Intermarium then to live in eternal fear. Poles want to live forever???!!! We Serbians are with Poland. Isn`t that nice from us? ;)
OP Ironside 53 | 12,357
18 Sep 2015 #122
much better is to form Intermarium then to live in eternal fear. Poles want to live forever???!!! We

Much better Crow, but Serbia should stop sucking up to the EU.
Crow 155 | 9,025
18 Sep 2015 #123
if you look deeper, you would actually see that Serbia right now pressuring EU.

then, your next thought would be- how is that possible? how are Serbians capable for that? i explained long time ago on this forum. Its not just Serbians. Its not simple. Many interests intersects Serbian lands and cultural realm, interests of most of world powers, few civilizations. So, if one upsets Serbs, one upsets interests of many. Right now, western Europe understands that don`t have control. Imagine, during his visit to USA, Serbian PM gave lesson to western European leaders. Imagine, from USA soil, while USA congrats him for being capable to say NO, to both- to Russians and to USA. Plus, all that coincide with moment when Duda announced intention to move for Intermarium. You know what this all mean? USA is ready (no matter west of Europe is against), to support Serbia and Poland if they want Intermarium.

One word. Serbians.
NocyMrok
19 Sep 2015 #124
You are proving my point for me. Those are people who would sold their own mother for an expensive watch or want not. Wrong circles! Nay they are not communist they are post-communists or post-Poles not to be mistaken for Poles.

Im a Pole and i genuinely hate EU. Hate their political correctness and hate when some money hungry non-Poles try to dictate how i should live my life and what im supposed to think. F**k EU dotations. So called "dotations". Although i live in the UK i would had no issues going back even tomorrow. The reason EU is so willingly donating is very easy to figure out. It all goes to create infrastructure and less effort-demanding ways to keep exploiting our country. In the long run Poland will lose more than what was pumped in. Time to wake up. Did the 2nd World War change anything? No. We Poles are in the exact same place like before. Being affraid of by both The East and The West. Good. Time to make a use of the fear and prove them both right when scared.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
19 Sep 2015 #125
Im a Pole and i genuinely hate EU.

I suppose you genuinely hate the new roads, new infrastructure and everything else, too?

Hate their political correctness and hate when some money hungry non-Poles try to dictate how i should live my life and what im supposed to think.

Then give everything back. It's fair enough - Poland can stay like Belarus in return.

F**k EU dotations. So called "dotations".

Sure, you can go back to the laughable road network of 2003, and the laughable train network that consisted of nothing but train stations filled with tramps urinating all over the walls.

Although i live in the UK i would had no issues going back even tomorrow.

So why don't you go back? :/

The reason EU is so willingly donating is very easy to figure out. It all goes to create infrastructure and less effort-demanding ways to keep exploiting our country.

I really wonder what value the EU gets from spending a vast amount of money on Poznan's water supply.
OP Ironside 53 | 12,357
19 Sep 2015 #126
It all goes to create infrastructure and less effort-demanding ways to keep exploiting our country. In the long run Poland will lose more than what was pumped in. Time to wake up.

Amen to that!
whocares
19 Sep 2015 #127
I find it pathetic that certain leftists think the EU was the only reason Poland became "richer".
Polands political and banking policies also helped too. But these antiPolish trolls think Poles couldnt do that.
Hopefully the Eu gets obliterated.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
19 Sep 2015 #128
But these antiPolish trolls think Poles couldnt do that.

Given that Poland wasn't doing it before 2004, it's hard to imagine how else it could be.

Hopefully the Eu gets obliterated.

Fortunately, it won't.
nothanks - | 633
19 Sep 2015 #129
EU vote could force members to accept migrants: Germany
A meeting of EU interior ministers last Monday failed to reach a deal on quotas to distribute 120,000 migrants

Surprise surprise. First they force you to take "refugees" and now it's migrants. Shut up Nazis, we won't do what you say.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
19 Sep 2015 #130
Surprise surprise. First they force you to take "refugees" and now it's migrants. Shut up Nazis, we won't do what you say.

You can and will do what they say, because it's a matter for qualified majority voting. If the vote passes, you have two choices - accept or leave the EU. And you'll accept.
nothanks - | 633
19 Sep 2015 #131
Those migrants will be beaten and forced to move West. We both know this
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
19 Sep 2015 #132
No, they won't be beaten.

They might / probably will go West within minutes, though.
nothanks - | 633
19 Sep 2015 #133
Polska is 99% White. They will stick out, an easy target.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
19 Sep 2015 #134
Except there's already plenty of such people here and they don't get beaten up.
OP Ironside 53 | 12,357
19 Sep 2015 #135
Polska is 99% White. They will stick out, an easy target.

What are you talking about? What target? Poland is not Germany or Britain.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
19 Sep 2015 #136
I think he's suggesting that they'll get beaten up for merely being in Poland, which you and I know is clearly bollocks.
Dougpol1 31 | 2,640
19 Sep 2015 #137
Polska is 99% White. They will stick out, an easy target.

Plenty of non-whites here. They stick out because they are smiling and jolly. At least my Nigerian friends were. They are not miserable and unhappy, like half of the population seems to be.
nothanks - | 633
19 Sep 2015 #138
Sitting on welfare half way across the globe from your homeland will have that affect I imagine

Completely agree on "plenty". No more needed
Polsyr 6 | 760
19 Sep 2015 #139
Those migrants will be beaten and forced to move

Unlike what you folks think in whatever backwater you hail from, that won't happen. Individual cases may happen (leading to lengthy jail terms for hate crimes for the offenders) but as a whole, Poles are not intolerant.
Crow 155 | 9,025
19 Sep 2015 #140
Somebody said on this forum, few years ago, that one Polish thinker once said: ``Mixing with other Slavs is only mixing acceptable to Poles and, quite enough.``

Its a pity that i didn`t remember name of the thinker. Very good thinking
White Europe - | 21
19 Sep 2015 #141
Unlike what you folks think in whatever backwater you hail from, that won't happen. Individual cases may happen (leading to lengthy jail terms for hate crimes for the offenders) but as a whole, Poles are not intolerant

You sound like you're intolerant of Poles who don't wish to become a minority in their own country.
Marsupial - | 880
20 Sep 2015 #142
There's not really anyway they can get there to poland just now. Not only that don't want to and have never mentioned it. Poland is in nil danger of becoming any of that. The government will take some number who will leave to join their contacts in eu a few will stay. You right wing people should join this move to win more brownie points for poland. The syrians will leave anyway to meet their friends and western style benefits and they will find it hard to communicate in poland from the very first minute. Lol don't you see this?
nothanks - | 633
20 Sep 2015 #143
Here is the issue. Western Europe will be overrun with hungry mouths resulting in an even bigger problem than low birth rates had ever presented.

This will lead to more scrutiny and manipulation of Poland by resentful Western Liberal Politicians. If Poland is still in the EU by 2025, then it's people have been failed again
NocyMrok
20 Sep 2015 #144
Sure, you can go back to the laughable road network of 2003, and the laughable train network that consisted of nothing but train stations filled with tramps urinating all over the walls.

Gimme a break. The roads are there coz of the transit of goods demand and to make the cheap laborer to move more quickly therefore more efficiently. What's the use of eu-made roads other than sight-seeing the country in 80% sold to foreign powers?
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,149
20 Sep 2015 #146
Aww shut up, enlightened EUnuchs/Gerries are just a big charity, there are no profits whatsoever in their actions, only net loses. Simply just like they all have been civilizing Negroes since centuries, they haven't been even touching their natural resources, haven't been exploiting their people, just building roads, send aid and all of that :)))) Just look what Negroes have achieved due to that help :)))
Crow 155 | 9,025
20 Sep 2015 #147
When i predicted that would in next 100 years, Polish and other Slavs from Baltic to Balkan and Ukraine, if fails to form Intermarium (as Duda suggested), face extinction due to assimilation by the western Europe, i didn`t even take in consideration weakening of Slavic elements due to influx of new coming Arabs in Europe, welcomed by the governments of EU leading powers. So, i now clearly see that things accelerate. i am absolutely sure that west of Europe (EU leading powers) hurry to assimilate Slavs, not in 100 years but, to weaken them seriously in even 50 years. That is exactly one (!) of the reason why this in case with refugees around us happening.

Actually, i am now even more sure that tragically died Polish president Lech Kaczyński was assassinated by EU and NATO leading powers, at a moment when wanted to reconcile with Russia.

We now all can see that Duda coming from within same patriotic circles in Poland, that gave Lech Kaczyński. Those are kind of politicians ready to dies for what they believe (i greatly respect that) and are quite aware what is in the stake.

In my opinion, political elite in Poland is aware what is in the game. Must be that Kaczyński himself tried to prepare ground for inevitable, for Poland`s abandoning of EU and formation of Intermarium. He traveled to Russia to assure them that Poland`s intention isn`t to form Intermarium as anti-Russian creation but, in agonizing attempt to save itself. For sure Kaczyński, being aware of odds, desired even Russian help. Then, Kacz was killed by EU and NATO.

Yes, Poland should go out of EU, as soon as possible. Its a deadly trap.
nothanks - | 633
20 Sep 2015 #148
Crow, I don't see Polska leaving on it's own. It would need to be a regional decision. UK leaving would have to be the initial domino.
Crow 155 | 9,025
20 Sep 2015 #149
UK is part of problem. Its west of Europe. Now when they see that Slavs understand what is in the game, they would rather support EU or, if they see that EU collapsing, who knows for what are they ready. Remember, Britain is brain of the western Europe. Germany is fist. USA is reserve that always monitor situation in Europe. But, its all one club. It sometimes appears that they have misunderstandings. They do but, when it comes to Slavs, they are united. They just wants Slavic resources. Its so close to them. Hand always moves to grab
bunensis
20 Sep 2015 #150
'They just wants Slavic resources. Its so close to them. Hand always moves to grab'

Crow

You speak of the richest areas of the world . What possible resources could Slavs have that could tempt them ?


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