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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 10


OP Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,906
25 Mar 2024 #391
I think a lot of people are cowards, maybe even a majority.

....and unless you have walked in their shoes it's easy to judge and use the big words, to easy!

I see that phenomenon right now in modern Germany....the masses taking to the streets in their retroactive fight against the Nazis (aka AfD)....alle of them would had been brave resisters back then of course too, or so they believe...there even had been a word coined for that phenomenon: "Gratismut"! (Courage which doesn't cost a thing)
jon357 74 | 22,204
25 Mar 2024 #392
I thought of Hannah Arendt right away too.

She certainly called it right. I wouldn't have wanted to sit through that trial either.

Perhaps I'm a bit cynical about human nature however I suspect that millions across the world would turn a blind eye to the worst evils just for the sake of a quiet life.

I prefer to discuss privately

It's an internet forum.

You like to have public communication about personal attacks

So do you.
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,015
25 Mar 2024 #393
@jon357
After you messaged me on May 19, 2023 you blocked messaging. You start things here, when I do not even talk to you. So you can either take your problem with me off the public forum, or I will make another complaint about you. Again, anyone with info on who jon really is, I will pay a nice sum in crypto or cash for that information.
jon357 74 | 22,204
25 Mar 2024 #394
This is about Ukraine and the illegal and unprovoked invasion, not your poor anger management skills and bad choices.

you messaged me

Replied to your tirade of abuse.

I will pay a nice sum in crypto or cash

Feel free. Unlike some, I've got nothing to hide.
mafketis 37 | 10,972
25 Mar 2024 #395
Would you really use the word 'evil' to describe your average German civilian in 1940s?

If I can't use cowardice..... maybe. I dunno.... something went deeply wrong for Germany in the 1930s.... they've since gotten themselves together though the last ten years or so they've started unraveling in a different direction....

Something went deeply wrong in russia.... right from the start. How many governments has russia (including USSR) had that can be categorized as anything but terrible?
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,015
25 Mar 2024 #396
@jon357
Tirade? Yes. Thats right, a tirade asking what problem you had with me was certainly a tirade. When someone who moderates this forum provided you with personal information about me I think I have a right to be concerned. That disclosure was unauthorized and could be considered a breach of privacy rights. My anger management? Oh, you mean my responding to your personal attacks. You are simply a coward who wont identify himself. Only a coward acts the way you do.

Meanwhile, Vlad has increased missile use and attacks on Kiev. Taking out more power plants and infrastructure. It is obvious now, that Russia is producing plenty of missiles now, and will not run out. I read a report that Russia can keep this pace up for another two years or more. Anyone thinking Ukraine can survive another two years of this without peace talks is not thinking clearly.
Lenka 5 | 3,526
25 Mar 2024 #397
When someone who moderates this forum provided you with personal information about me I think I have a right to be concerned.

People constantly think someone ' revealed' something instead of realising that they tell a lot about themselves in their posts.
jon357 74 | 22,204
25 Mar 2024 #398
Tirade? Yes. Thats right, a tirade

As is this. A classic tirade.

When someone who moderates this forum provided you with personal information about me

No they didn't.

Now move on and let's concentrate on how Ukraine can win and how r*SSi can be defeated.

It's telling that r*SSian bots are now trying to blame the Special Theatre Operation on the west, despite a western country literally warning them about it.

And two pieces of great news. One is that the orc Blaxk Sea Fleet is now "functionally inactive" due to Ukrainian strikes and the other is that a major power plant in r*SSia is now burning to the ground due to Ukrainian drones.

I suspect we'll be seeing more good news over the next few weeks.
PolAmKrakow 2 | 1,015
25 Mar 2024 #399
@Lenka
This is not the case with me. There have never been any identifying remarks made by me that could be used to determine my identity. But I agree, some have done this, I simply dont wish to know who most are. If they wanted me to know they would tell me, or I would ask. Invading someones privacy is actionable, so it always best to not do it. More importantly, people who seek out personal information on other people, without actually knowing that person, are considered stalkers. As I believe is the case here. While disagreements between people here are not uncommon, name calling also not uncommon, and other rudeness is not uncommon. It is quite uncommon for these types of personal attacks using personal information that was obtained in an unauthorized manner.
Novichok 4 | 8,282
25 Mar 2024 #400
I suspect we'll be seeing more good news over the next few weeks.

Yes, Russian victory no matter how many times random faggots will misspell Russia.

BS. I applaud them for it. Animals who murder women and children don't deserve human rights.

Hey, amiga, that post of yours is beyond brilliant. I read it three times it's so good.

I guess the idiots forgot Rule One of terrorism: Pick your targets wisely. Picking Russia was fvcking stupid.

BTW, I wonder if they asked for lawyers and told the FSB that they wished to invoke their 5th Amendment rights and remain silent.

Russia, I love you - especially for making your interviewing methods public. Pure genius. They won't do it again. Allah and the virgins don't want pieces.
mafketis 37 | 10,972
25 Mar 2024 #401
Russia, I love you - especially for making your interviewing methods public

Like this.... terrorizing children... simply the best!!!!!

twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/1772189407979684280
Novichok 4 | 8,282
25 Mar 2024 #402
Like this.... terrorizing children... simply the best!!!!!

I didn't know you would stoop this low. Why would you want to terrorize children?

tell a lot about themselves in their posts.

I hide nothing. I even published my drop-dead list.
I am thinking about posting my proud-of-you list with the FSB in the top position for their interviewing techniques.
Novichok 4 | 8,282
25 Mar 2024 #403
Feel free. Unlike some, I've got nothing to hide.

Yes, you do. So keep your pants on.
mafketis 37 | 10,972
25 Mar 2024 #404
Why would you want to terrorize children?

I was channeling you. You love russia and it terrorized Ukrainian children in Kyiv today.

So do you love it when russia terrorizes children?
Novichok 4 | 8,282
25 Mar 2024 #405
I prefer to discuss privately.

My slime detector went off early on when I started reading his posts. I am relieved that I am not alone.

So do you love it when Russia terrorizes children?

I disliked dropping napalm on children more. That's how your pimp was spreading "freedom and democracy" a while back.
When you try and execute them, we will discuss how Russia terrorizes children in Kiev. And kidnaps them to take them to safety...Bastards...
mafketis 37 | 10,972
25 Mar 2024 #406
how your pimp was spreading "freedom and democracy" a while back

Who the hell is my pimp?

So napalm justifies terrorizing Ukrainian children by russia, which you love.

And if anyone believes your fairytales you moved to the US when the napalm was happening and gladly took up US citizenship... can't have bothered you much then... what changed?

I don't believe political conversion stories that can't be explained....
Tacitus 2 | 1,411
25 Mar 2024 #407
@jon357

Blaxk Sea Fleet is now "functionally inactive" due to Ukrainian strikes and the other is that a major power plant in r*SSia is now burning to the ground due to Ukrainian drones.

Both good news, but the former especially. Not only for Ukraine but the rest of Europe.

As a result of this war, Russian naval and air power has been significantly reduced. If Russia were to invade NATO territory, its Northern fleet would be forced to operate in a NATO lake, while its' severely weakened Black Sea would be no match for the NATO fleet capabilities. That leaves Russia's still formidable number of soldiers and tanks, but who knows what else the Ukrainians can achieve.
mafketis 37 | 10,972
25 Mar 2024 #408
russian ambassador ignores summons and does not apppear at Polish Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

Normal behavior is too difficult for russians..... still.....

onet.pl/informacje/onetwiadomosci/ambasador-rosji-nie-stawil-sie-na-wezwanie-jest-komunikat-msz/z13h4c0,79cfc278
Velund 1 | 664
25 Mar 2024 #409
Normal behavior is too difficult for russians..... still.....

The same was done before by some EU ambassadors in Moscow.
So, symmetric responce, and clear sign that polish MFA may roll that note they prepared and stick to the place where sun never shines.
Bobko 25 | 2,166
25 Mar 2024 #410
Northern fleet would be forced to operate in a NATO lake

Somebody does not know geography, or that there is a fleet in Russia called "The Baltic Fleet".

The Northern Fleet could destroy all of Europe without leaving port. It has 3/4 of all nuclear powered ships in Russia. It enters the world oceans by going past Norway and between Iceland and the UK. It has nothing to do with the Baltic.
jon357 74 | 22,204
25 Mar 2024 #411
That leaves Russia's still formidable number of soldiers and tanks

And those of course are ground down by the thousands (of tanks) and by the hundreds of thousands (or orcs).

The Northern Fleet could destroy all of Europe without leaving port

Just as the 'Baltic Fleet' could be destroyed by NATO.

And should r*SSia be so foolish to try, their capital would be under a metre of glass. Nobody sane would want to, however r*SSi should be under no illusion that it would happen.
mafketis 37 | 10,972
25 Mar 2024 #412
could destroy all of Europe

It's always one sided... European normal countries talk about defense from psychotic russian aggression.... while russia fantasizes about killing hundreds of millions of people.

your country is profoundly sick.... get help.
Bobko 25 | 2,166
25 Mar 2024 #413
Just as the 'Baltic Fleet' could be destroyed by NATO.

The Baltic Fleet is a joke of a fleet.

The Russian ranking of fleets is approximately like this:

1) Northern Fleet
2) Pacific Fleet
3) Black Sea Fleet
4) Baltic Fleet
5) Caspian Flotilla
jon357 74 | 22,204
25 Mar 2024 #414
normal countries talk about defense from psychotic russian aggression.... while russia fantasizes about killing

They've never progressed from the early eighteenth century mentally.
mafketis 37 | 10,972
25 Mar 2024 #415
never progressed from the early eighteenth century

I would say they're more in the 19th century when stupid ideas like 'great powers' and 'spheres of influence' were taken seriously....

It's so frustrating because many russians at the individual level are very, very smart but it goes for nothing because the country has no idea how to utilize intelligent people except to corrupt or brutalize them....
Bobko 25 | 2,166
25 Mar 2024 #416
They've never progressed from the early eighteenth century mentally.

Whereas you did, with a helpful thumping from others.

Never believe any Brit that argues they gave up their Empire voluntarily.

Read what the then Prince Charles wrote after the hand off of HK, in a private memo.

Read what the Queen thought about the subject.

Witness the titanic efforts applied by Churchill, Eden, and Macmillan to preserve it.

Buncha lying hypocrites and losers. Jealousy drives them.

many russians at the individual level are very, very smart

Stop masturbating to your wonderboy Galeev. Far from a good example of an intelligent Russian.
cms neuf 1 | 1,832
25 Mar 2024 #417
I think you forgot to mention the Black Sea Submarine Fleet

And there is a pretty cool video of Russell crossing the Moskva river on a "state of the art" ferry that looks like it was built by alcoholics

Why did your Special Forces take 90 minutes to respond on Friday ? Why didn't they come in a helicopter or clear the traffic ? Still no answers to that. There were only 4 attackers to deal with so one helicopter load of Spetznatz should have been enough right ?
mafketis 37 | 10,972
25 Mar 2024 #418
Far from a good example of an intelligent Russian

He's not involved in killing people or stealing from them.... so i guess from the russian perspective he's a dope.... what do principles and ethics even mean in russia?
Bobko 25 | 2,166
25 Mar 2024 #419
Why did your Special Forces take 90 minutes to respond on Friday ?

I know it's surprising, but most of our special forces are currently in Ukraine and Syria.

I think ISIS may have used this in their calculation of what to strike and when.

what do principles and ethics even mean in russia?

SHUT. UP. MAFKETIS.

Your country, and Britain - are the chief suppliers of weaponry to Saudi Arabia. A country that has murdered in excess of 350K Yemenis. I never saw a single peep out of you, in regards to this.

In Sudan:

"18mn people facing acute food insecurity. [There is] an ongoing conflict that involves "mass graves, gang rapes, shockingly indiscriminate attacks in densely populated areas" and more than 6.5mn displaced people. Reports from refugee camps in Darfur describe children dying of malnutrition every two hours."

Care for me to remind you whose work this is?

Rapidly moving on... The war between Ethiopia and the Tigray Peoples Liberation Front that began in November 2020 cost around 600,000 lives, according to Olusegun Obasanjo, the former Nigerian president, who helped to negotiate a peace treaty. More than half the victims were civilians, many of whom died of starvation.

You don't care about this either. Why? Because it does not involve Russia.

Stop lecturing me about ethics and morals.
jon357 74 | 22,204
25 Mar 2024 #420
Churchill, Eden, and Macmillan to preserve

Those were the same leaders who had to fight to get majority rule in the colonies. And you forgot Atlee and Wilson who were in office during the largest periods of voluntary decolonisation in the history of the world.

Not that we're talking about the U.K.; that's just a particularly weak attempt at whataboutery.

the Black Sea Submarine Fleet

More a collection of stationary aquarium ornaments now. Still, the diving tours in Crimea will be good tourism income for Ukraine.

Why didn't they come in a helicopter or clear the traffic ?

Because they knew it was happening and already had four patsies lined up. If the attackers' guns had jammed they'd doubtless have been their quicker to help them out.


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