Abortion still under control in Poland

and you think it isn't?

as far as I know the main piece of regulation on the subject is as simple and concise as follows:

article 4a of the Family planning, protection of human foetus and conditions on which aboriton is allowed Act (translation mine)

Przerwanie ciąży może być dokonane wyłącznie przez lekarza, w przypadku gdy:
1) ciąża stanowi zagrożenie dla życia lub zdrowia kobiety ciężarnej,

Termination of pregnancy can be performed exclusively by a doctor in these cases:

1. the pregnancy poses a threat to the life OR health of the pregnant woman

there were 3 other cases in the original act (the act was passed in 1993) of which (after the two separate Consitutional Court rulings only one of which was recent) only 1 other remains namely: when there is a valid suspicion that the pregnancy is a result of a prohibited act

I actually should have said 'ignorance of the law' instead of 'misinterpretation of the law' in my previous post - I know many people raised the issue of the recent Constitutional Court ruling on abortion law having a 'chilling' effect on doctors but in my personal view it's just ignorance on their part - ignorance, cowardice and disregard for human life (yeah I know these are strong words)

well ok, in my personal opinion perceived threats to the mental health of the mother should not be a possible reason for abortion but the Polish law just states 'threat to health' as a legal reason for abortion (and I'm pretty sure the term health is not defined in the Polish law anywhere)

I am not sure that is true about Novichock, but it's certainly true about you....

Simply Mission Impossible. hahahaha

Clearly it's not working though:

"The public prosecutor's office has brought charges against three doctors who did not terminate a 30-year-old patient's defective pregnancy for fear of breaching the country's strict abortion laws, which resulted in her death."

euractiv.com/section/politics/short_news/doctors-charged-with-manslaughter-after-fearing-terminating-pregnancy/

You are full of crap. Quoting:

The first fetus died in the womb on 23 December, but doctors refused to remove it, quoting the current abortion legislation, and Agnieszka's family claim "her state quickly deteriorated".

This woman died because the doctors were morons, not because of the Polish abortion laws. Now pay attention: when the "fetus" is dead, removing a dead tissue is NOT ABORTION!!!!

Those idiot doctors were free to proceed. They didn't because they are MORONS!!! NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LAW!!!

I will not bother with the rest since you were dishonest by bringing this case into the conversation.


BS again. A woman with a dead "fetus" inside is no longer pregnant. Therefore, removing it is not terminating pregnancy. The prosecutors were correct in charging those doctors for being morons and causing her death.

Stop yelling. This hystery is useless. Decen t people know those poor women died because of the PIS law. It is going to be changed by the new Parliament. First partly, then completely. You can thank rightists for that.

have you read the law - it's plain and simple they just didn't apply it - again ignorance, cowardice (or at least lack of civil courage) and disregard for human life - oh yeah, and if you read up on the exact case actual neglect

Performing life saving procedure shouldn't require civil courage!

@Lenka
Then for anyone disliking it, should take a moment or two and contact school boards and universities that doesn't seem to teach it.

Read my post again as your response is...only vaguely connected to it.

yeah - you need to get some courage to overcome unfounded fears, too

How many died last year because of the Polish abortion laws? Do not include morons making moronic decisions.

Even one was too many. Simple.

How many Polish women died last year because of the Polish abortion laws?

Even one was too many. Simple. Remember your own principle.

How many Polish women died last year because of the Polish abortion laws?

Remember your own principle which you propagated a few times in the forum: even one was too many.

What changes in the Polish abortion laws do you propose to prevent that one death too many?
If you give me anything but a good-faith answer, you and I are done.

No 1 change - decriminalize those who provide or assist an abortion for a woman who requests it.

No 2 change - each hospital has to employ doctors who agree to perform abortions. Conscience clause doctors who refuse to can stay, of course.

No 3 change - Harassment of doctors or clinics that perform abortions must be severely punished by law. Right now rabid hysterical protesters gather in front of the facilities and make a lot of noise .Fine them 5.000 PLN and there will be none within 1 week.

No 4 change - full return to the compromise law which had existed before misogynist PiS changed it.

This article may come in handy
hrw.org/news/2023/09/14/poland-abortion-witch-hunt-targets-women-doctors

Cases that Human Rights Watch documented offer evidence that Polish law enforcement authorities have increased their pursuit of women, girls, and healthcare providers since the politically compromised Constitutional Tribunal issued a decision in October 2020 that virtually eliminated legal abortion in Poland. .


Until we are undone again. hahahaha buhahahaha Like a few times before. :):):)

The change which was one of the main factors contributing to their demise in the recent elections. Now they are making big eyes in utter bewilderment - How is it possible we were voted out????? they ask.

This proves they are complete idiots.
It also means Poland has been ruled by complete idiots for the last 8 years. Amassing!

A question for the pro-choice progressives:

What changes in the Polish abortion laws do you want?

All I care mothers life should be number one priority.Also mother should have 70% say and father also should have 30% say with zero govt say.

To have one or not is binary. How does 70/30 fit here? She says no, he says yes...or the other way around. What now?


Do you mean physical life? There is also mental life and social life.

The majority wins:) Its her say,Easy lol


Yes,in case of mental and social fu.cki it,its about bringing a life in the world.

Can somebody here finally tell me what changes in the Polish abortion laws you want?

Already did. Not my fault you are senile.

Fu*ck off. It would take you less effort to post the link, moron...

And even less time for you if you didn't repeat yourself in the hope everyone is so tired of you that they won't respond and you can claim 'win'

You and the other a-hole don't answer my questions because, as stupid as you are, you know damn well that I never ask questions not leading to my win.

That's why the a-hole played his evasive games.
I never asked how many Polish women died because of the Polish abortion laws. Every ugly feminazi in Poland knows the answer. Somehow, you and the a-hole don't. Sure...