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Abortion still under control in Poland


Novichok 5 | 7,843
24 Nov 2023 #2,941
No society has any "capital". Money is taken by force by tax collectors, borrowed, or printed.
Only voluntarily given donations count.
Leftist scum likes former methods better.
Mr Grunwald 33 | 2,177
24 Nov 2023 #2,942
@jon357
If taking care of oneself and those closest to you directly (being responsible) brands me selfish. Call me selfish as much as you want! Mr. BigSpender
jon357 74 | 21,935
24 Nov 2023 #2,943
Call me selfish as much as you want!

Remember that no person or family is an island; we are all part of society.

All wealth is commonwealth.
Mr Grunwald 33 | 2,177
24 Nov 2023 #2,944
@jon357
That's where you are wrong, certain parts of society needs to be like isolated islands as a backup reserve in case society goes wrong.

If all of society is fully connected and combined and take a wrong turn as a whole, there is little help after that except outside help.

Just think about where the U.K would be post 1918 and post 1945 without U.S.A as a backup.

Just look at post Soviet Union, I think it's very obvious that any reliable backup (preferably one's own and native+closely related is best)
jon357 74 | 21,935
24 Nov 2023 #2,945
certain parts of society needs to be like isolated islands as a backup reserve

That means absolutely nothing.

f all of society is fully connected

It is.

certain parts of society needs to be like isolated islands as a backup reserve

Or where they'd be in the Pacific Theatre without the UK and the ANZACs.
Mr Grunwald 33 | 2,177
24 Nov 2023 #2,946
That means absolutely nothing.

Ask the British government then, how useful it is to have a Monarchy that can lend it's hand in a financial crisis.

Australia is far more isolated from U.K, yet useful. I would say example of Australia underlines my argument. More then yours
jon357 74 | 21,935
24 Nov 2023 #2,947
Ask the British government then, how useful it is to have a Monarchy that can lend it's hand in a financial crisis

That means nothing.

Australia is far more isolated from U.K

Australia? A joined up society with public healthcare, a high level of state schooling, social housing, good welfare, strong Trade Unions, very strong workers' rights and a high wage economy. Far from 'isolated' and you really don't seem to have an argument.

You yourself are from a country where society is about as far from libertarian folly as it can be. You would not enjoy living in a place where society is not cohesive and where wealth is not seen as a common asset.
Novichok 5 | 7,843
24 Nov 2023 #2,948
A joined up society with public healthcare,

...and fascist enough for one a-hole to shut it down and force its citizens to be under house arrest by just signing a piece of paper. Stalin didn't have that much power.
jon357 74 | 21,935
24 Nov 2023 #2,949
Boring.

This thread is about terminating pregnancies in Poland. Not your unresolved issues with society and humanity as a whole.

Then again, you enjoy trashing threads.
Novichok 5 | 7,843
24 Nov 2023 #2,950
Australia? A joined-up society with public healthcare,

This thread is about terminating pregnancies in Poland.

Really? Your posts confused me...
jon357 74 | 21,935
24 Nov 2023 #2,951
Stop trolling. It is boring.

A shame this forum is no longer carefully moderated.
johnny reb 47 | 7,055
8 Jan 2024 #2,952
This thread is about terminating pregnancies in Poland. Not your unresolved issues with society and humanity as a whole.

Oh but it is jon as you can see from the OP's original post.

The Sejm has rejected out of hand a proposal by the anti-clerical pro-libertine Palikot group to expand the legal murder of the unborn.

You know we could put this whole abortion debate to rest once and for all by simply legalizing murder.

A shame this forum is no longer carefully moderated.

You mean you mean you miss your buddy ex-Mod. Feniks in your back pocket ?
pawian 222 | 23,758
13 Jan 2024 #2,953
Women Want Action on Abortion After Ousting Polish Nationalists

Exactly.
I said it here 2 or 3 years ago after rightist PiS gangsters banned abortion - the new gov would swing the pendulum to the other extreme.

And it is happening now - the main ruling party is planning to put to vote a 12 week pregnancy abortion law.

Thank you, fekking rightists for contributing to it!!!! Tfu!
Alien 18 | 4,841
13 Jan 2024 #2,954
12 week pregnancy abortion law.

Do you see anything wrong with this?
Poloniusz 4 | 697
13 Jan 2024 #2,955
the main ruling party is planning to put to vote a 12 week pregnancy abortion law.

Isn't that too restrictive for women?

Why not at least 12 weeks after delivery in case they "feel" differently about motherhood?

I Wanted To Put A Knife Into My Baby': Moms On Their Postpartum Psychosis

newsweek.com/postpartum-psychosis-lindsay-clancy-1778724
pawian 222 | 23,758
13 Jan 2024 #2,956
motherhood

You are too low a lowlife incel to talk about motherhood. :):):)

Why not at least 12 weeks after delivery

If incel males were able to deliver, they would have passed a 12 months termination law long ago.
Novichok 5 | 7,843
13 Jan 2024 #2,957
Why not at least 12 weeks after delivery in case they "feel" differently about motherhood?

Good question...Why not? In 12 weeks, them liitle blobs didn't learn much and still don't know how democracies work...They don't even know their names and address...

So give 'em fentanyl with apple sauce and they will be out in no time.
johnny reb 47 | 7,055
13 Jan 2024 #2,958
I thought reaching in with a pair of forceps and locking them around the babies head and crushing it until it popped was more humane.
Poloniusz 4 | 697
14 Jan 2024 #2,959
Good question...Why not?

If women want support from the government and medical community to carry out their abortions then it's clear they would have no problem asking for and being given the same support to carry out infanticide for them.

more humane

That method simply allows women to participate in the murder of their baby without getting their manicured hands messy in performing it.

It also allows women to mitigate any cognitive dissonance in going through with "their choice" by projecting their own responsibility and guilt onto the abortionist.
Novichok 5 | 7,843
14 Jan 2024 #2,960
"Women's abortion rights..." Last time I had a chance to talk to some a-hole about it, I asked him to name any document that makes abortions a right. He couldn't name one.

But this small detail never stops them from bsing about "abortion rights" being violated by pro-lifers.
Poloniusz 4 | 697
14 Jan 2024 #2,961
He couldn't name one.

That's why the so-called "law of the land" Roe-v-Wade decision was finally overturned. It never was a right and everyone knew this. That's why abortion advocates always used words like "decision" and "choice" and it being a "private matter" between a woman, her doctor and (laughably) her "God".
Novichok 5 | 7,843
14 Jan 2024 #2,962
and it being a "private matter" between a woman, her doctor ...

It's private when her "doctor" aborts her in her bedroom. In a licensed hospital ...not private...
Novichok 5 | 7,843
14 Jan 2024 #2,963
My idol, Ben Shapiro, said this to a "pro-choice" chick: What's inside a pregnant woman is alive human being. She made this "are you nuts" face so he continued...

It's alive because it's not dead.
It's human because it's not a cat.
It's a being because it exists.

I like Ben.
pawian 222 | 23,758
14 Jan 2024 #2,964
That's why the so-called "law of the land" Roe-v-Wade decision was finally overturned.

Exactly!!! That is why more and more males decide to become women. They want to have their own babies coz real women refuse to!!
So why do rightists like you, Novi, johhny and others reject the idea of males turning into women??? It is a mystery to me.
Poloniusz 4 | 697
14 Jan 2024 #2,965
Exactly!!! That is why more and more males decide to become women.

Exactly the opposite!!!


Novichok 5 | 7,843
14 Jan 2024 #2,966
If abortion is healthcare, let's show it on TV - all of it, including what is going on inside. I remember an open heart surgery as well as a colonoscopy ... live and in color...
pawian 222 | 23,758
14 Jan 2024 #2,967
as well as a colonoscopy ... live and in color...

I assume you and your family were thrilled watching it during dinner time. hahahahaha
johnny reb 47 | 7,055
14 Jan 2024 #2,968
If abortion is healthcare, let's show it on TV - all of it,

Culling your child on t.v. might be a bit much to watch, Novi.
Maybe start out with culling unwanted kittens and puppies by drowning them on t.v. and then work up to humans.
Novichok 5 | 7,843
14 Jan 2024 #2,969
Culling your child on t.v. might be a bit much to watch, Novi.

I wouldn't want to watch a child being delivered, either.
My comment is aimed at the proabortion feminazis who use the word "healthcare" to make abortion more acceptable.

If it's just another case of "healthcare", show it on TV to all of us and pregnant women, specifically.
mafketis 36 | 10,857
15 Jan 2024 #2,970
Exactly the opposite!!!

Actually

1st wave feminism - about basic rights denied to women in many societies before feminism (owning property, being able to vote etc)

2nd wave feminism - about women having better access and fewer restrictions on things like working outside the home

These were both western ideas and the logical next step of feminism was to address enshrined misogyny in non-western cultures, but by this time post-structuralism works (like Said's 'Orientalism' had legitimized the idea that non-western cultures are above criticism because truth doesn't exists bla dee blah dee blah so instead

3rd wave feminism - my feeeeeeelings! (feminism turned inwards and became about obsessing over emotional trivia like 'micro-aggressions')

4th wave feminism - ah hell with it, let's turn the movement over to men.....


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