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Abortion still under control in Poland


jon357  73 | 23137
29 Dec 2022   #2581
There is much of those restiction

No there isn't. There are no reasonable issues that people can't call for publicly.

One reason (among many) that this proposal doesn't have legs.
Lenka  5 | 3504
29 Dec 2022   #2582
@Cojest
The project mentions penalising informing about abortion in other countries. Since abortion is not illegal in those places there is no crime ergo no propagating crime.

I almost would like to see them try putting this law into motion.
Cojestdocholery  2 | 986
30 Dec 2022   #2583
penalising informing

Don't lie! It is about advertasing.

No there isn't

lol! stop with your lies. If you can't make an argument based on facts you already lost.
Lenka  5 | 3504
30 Dec 2022   #2584
Don't lie! It is about advertasing

Anything to back it up? All the info I read about this proposal mentioned informing.
jon357  73 | 23137
30 Dec 2022   #2585
argument

This isn't an 'argument'.

It's about an obsessive campaigner with a neo-nazi background trying to make a law that would prevent people calling publicly for the law to be changed.

The proposal however will never become law.
Cojestdocholery  2 | 986
2 Jan 2023   #2586
Anything to back it up?

yes I have a brain and you don't.

obsessive campaigner with a neo-nazi backgroun

I see no arguments or facts but casting aspersion.
jon357  73 | 23137
2 Jan 2023   #2587
I have a brain and you don't.

Nor do embryos.

facts

The fact that she has a recent neo-nazi history?
Lyzko  41 | 9615
2 Jan 2023   #2588
@Novichok,
Just because you disagree is no reason for foul talk!
You're wrong, simply admit it-:)
Cojestdocholery  2 | 986
3 Jan 2023   #2589
a recent neo-nazi history?

you are a nazi, keen to murder people. Typical.
jon357  73 | 23137
3 Jan 2023   #2590
Grow up.

A foetus is not a person.

It it were, them we wouldn't have a situation within humanity where all civilised countries permit a woman to terminate a pregnancy.
pawian  221 | 25381
3 Jan 2023   #2591
you are a nazi, keen to murder people. Typical.

You shouln`t write such silly things coz you discredit not only yourself but also your point of view - readers of our discussion will think that anti-abortionists are complete nutters. How do you think it will influence their opinion on the issue if they are trying to develop one??
Cojestdocholery  2 | 986
6 Jan 2023   #2592
A foetus is not a person.

typical nazi reasonig - dehumanize a person to kill it. One to one. Are you delsional to claim is different.
pawian  221 | 25381
6 Jan 2023   #2593
typical nazi reasonig

Try to show some non-nazi reason. People have the right to cherish various beliefs.
Some people believe in God, while others don`t.
Some people believe that aliens exist and even live on Earth while others don`t.
Some people believe that a foetus is already a human being while others don`t.

You can`t make believers or non-believers adopt a different view than they hold.
That is why - leave pro choice people alone - it is none of your business what they do. Abusing, hurting or killing them won`t help you deserve Heaven - quite the contrary, you will go to Hell.

Take care of your own life to be a good man yourself, then you may hope for Heaven in after life.
jon357  73 | 23137
6 Jan 2023   #2594
a person

Did you think an embryo was a person.

Go back to school
jon357  73 | 23137
7 Jan 2023   #2596
Says someone who thinks an embryo is a person.
Alien  24 | 5761
7 Jan 2023   #2597
No, embryo isn't a person but nevertheless it requires legal protection. The only question is, from which month?
jon357  73 | 23137
7 Jan 2023   #2598
it requires legal protection

Why?

from which month?

Remember that the embryonic stage doesn't last much more than a couple of months.

Remember, it's not a person, and it is also possible in civilised countries to end a pregnancy during the foetal stage.
johnny reb  48 | 7771
7 Jan 2023   #2599
Why ?

Because it is innocent and defenseless

More of your Rinse & Repeat joun.
Would you please stop with it until you have something that you have not already posted in this thread twenty times already.
repeat repeat repeat echo echo echo

Remember, it's not a person,

It is a life though as bad as you want to twist that it is not.
It is alive which makes it a life that you want to kill but god forbid someone kills a deer to eat.
I will never understand how Liberals can be so dense and insist on promoting their false propaganda on this subject.
Novichok  5 | 7952
7 Jan 2023   #2600
I changed my mind...More abortions, less crime. As long as we abort the right fetuses.
jon357  73 | 23137
7 Jan 2023   #2601
innocent

Neither innocent nor guilty. A clustrer of cells.

It is alive

So is a lettuce.
johnny reb  48 | 7771
7 Jan 2023   #2602
. A clustrer of cells.

Living cells

So is a lettuce.

Leave your brain out of it
jon357  73 | 23137
7 Jan 2023   #2603
Living cells

Like plants or bacteria.

Leave your brain out of it

Very eloquent, not...
Novichok  5 | 7952
7 Jan 2023   #2604
The abortion debate boils down to two binary questions:

1. Is "fetus" living?
2. If the answer to 1 is: yes, is it a human being?

Check, mate. Done.

Knowing the square root of 9 is as irrelevant here as it is in an ICU and a guy in a coma.
Novichok  5 | 7952
7 Jan 2023   #2605
youtu.be/rgY-BOkkgoI

That's how you win - by asking questions the enemy can't answer.
jon357  73 | 23137
7 Jan 2023   #2606
The abortion debate boils down to two binary questions:

It doesn't, though, does it...
Novichok  5 | 7952
7 Jan 2023   #2607
Yes, it does. If it didn't, you would have a better response to my post above than meaningless and evasive bs. As a reminder:

1. Is "fetus" living?
2. If the answer to 1 is: yes, is it a human being?

jon357  73 | 23137
7 Jan 2023   #2608
Is it a person though? Does it think and have a concept of self?
johnny reb  48 | 7771
7 Jan 2023   #2609
I didn't know that had to be a prerequisite to be a person.
Or is that just a Woke's definition for the sake of a stupid ass argument ?
Does a newborn think or have a concept of self ?
No but they are still a human being.
Your Woke indoctrination has been instilled in you to repeat the same old response and you have worn it out in this thread.
No matter how many times you repeat yourself by denying the fact that life starts at conceptions and grows into a human being.
At anytime you stop that growth by killing it you are committing murder.
Now you can call it goo, blob, lettuce, membrane but is still a human life.
Did it sink in that time Do Da ?
Novichok  5 | 7952
7 Jan 2023   #2610
Is it a person though?

It's a living human. We have laws that make cruelty to animals a felony - even if you are the owner.

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