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Abortion still under control in Poland


pawian 197 | 20,033
22 Nov 2021 #2,162
doctor responsible is known for his LGBT pro-abortion views.

It doesn`t hold water, darling. A pro-abortion doctor delayed the abortion???

Prove what?

Jon`s request wasn`t to you. Try to be more attentive.
Cojestdocholery 2 | 1,364
23 Nov 2021 #2,163
It doesn`t hold water, darling.

Wake up darling. He didn't delay no abortion. He runs a hospital that is highly inefficient. We were debating a state of a mind of the doctors. WE learned that he is a left wing pro-abortion guy. If it was an error if it was a neglect if it was stupidity - we know the reason for it now.
jon357 71 | 20,104
23 Nov 2021 #2,164
WE learned that

You claimed that.

Not quite the same.
Cojestdocholery 2 | 1,364
23 Nov 2021 #2,165
You claimed that.

I learned that and I have no reson to doubt the source. You can do your own reserch or you can belive me or you can not belive me. It is your choice.

There is not reson for you to haras me by implying that I made it all up every time I post about it.
I get it you as a fellow left wing do not like to see your idological bud exposed. Yet you should limit your aggresion. Only Tusk has no limits.
jon357 71 | 20,104
23 Nov 2021 #2,166
I learned that

Yet you've provided no evidence in your quest to blame the doctors.

Yet you should limit your aggresion

The only aggression we se is from you.
Novichok 3 | 6,969
23 Nov 2021 #2,167
The only aggression we see is from you.

Yours is worse and based on avoiding answers to simple questions. That's what leftists do all the time and then demand "proof", followed by impeaching the source and never saying which source would be acceptable at the risk that even that source would expose leftist lies.
jon357 71 | 20,104
23 Nov 2021 #2,168
to doubt the source

A link would be helpful.

Otherwise it's just made up.
Cojestdocholery 2 | 1,364
23 Nov 2021 #2,169
I think you made up your mind to not belive it no matter a link. Using 'no link' as a convenient excuse. Look up Do Rzeczy nr 46. if you want.

dr Marcin LeĊ›niewski, Determinant for our behaviour is always wellbeing of a patient.
jon357 71 | 20,104
23 Nov 2021 #2,170
no matter a link.

It matters.
pawian 197 | 20,033
23 Nov 2021 #2,171
You can do your own reserch

Sorry, but if another poster calls you out to prove sth and you deflect in such an infantile way, it is obvious you are lying. That is a typical evasion used by liars - I read it hundreds of times here.

Yet you should limit your aggresion

Yes, jon is right - stop projecting your mental problems onto him.
Cojestdocholery 2 | 1,364
23 Nov 2021 #2,172
you deflect

I have given you a weekly magazine's name and its number. If you cannot find it you have much more serius deficiency than infantile ways. As for lies, I have told you to seek help. Told you not to vent your anger on me. I have nothing to do with your mental issues.
pawian 197 | 20,033
23 Nov 2021 #2,173
I have given you a weekly magazine's name and its number.

So learn as a freshman that in this forum we provide links to sites, darling. I forgive you coz you didn`t know about it. Now you do, so a link to the article, please.
Novichok 3 | 6,969
23 Nov 2021 #2,174
I think you made up your mind to not belive it no matter a link.

I am glad to see you stand your ground. To the leftists, nothing ever is good enough. If you had a video showing the pope and the QE2 swearing on the Bible, they would tell you it's a fake.

Determinant for our behaviour is always wellbeing of a patient.

...and if some a-hole DA wants to drag you (editorial) to court, so be it. There is no better defense than protecting a dying human being.
pawian 197 | 20,033
23 Nov 2021 #2,175
I am glad to see you stand your ground.

He does but in a very silly way which provokes ironic compassionate smiles among old members.

nothing ever is good enough.

No, darling, we only desire a tiny, itsy bitsy, minute link. That`s all. If we get it, we will relax. :):)
Ludwig
21 May 2022 #2,176
If we found a single cell on another planet, the media / politicians would plaster "LIFE found on another planet!" - but a human being with a beating heart in the womb is "not life".
jon357 71 | 20,104
21 May 2022 #2,177
but a human being with a beating

Sentient life?
Novichok 3 | 6,969
22 May 2022 #2,178
In dictionary definitions, sentience is defined as "able to experience feelings," "responsive to or conscious of sense impressions," and "capable of feeling things through physical senses."

A patient in a coma or under full anesthesia is "sentient life". You murder him and it's 25 to life. If you insult the jury with that "sentient life" bullsh*it, they may give you life no parole

Besides, we as a society, collectively decide what is life worth protecting - "sentient" or not. I know that in the world of perverts and weirdos, the "democratic" process is hate speech. Just ask those screaming bit*ches...They clearly prefer terrorizing 5 justices at their homes over the messiness of convincing voters.
johnny reb 38 | 7,797
22 May 2022 #2,179
If you insult the jury with that "sentient life" bullsh*it, they may give you life no parole

He is tone deaf to that because it blows his liberal propaganda out of the water.
I have already explained that to him six times, Rich, but you did a much better job than I did.
Thank you.
Novichok 3 | 6,969
22 May 2022 #2,180
Rich, but you did a much better job than I did.

You did fine.

I have to hand it to Ludwig for this brilliant post:

If we found a single cell on another planet, the media / politicians would plaster "LIFE found on another planet!" - but a human being with a beating heart in the womb is "not life".

...because it doesn't know how to say it hurts, mommy. Sick.
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,846
23 May 2022 #2,181
Reminds me of a South Park episode...

youtube.com/watch?v=hvuktj6ktbI

I think abortion is a necessary evil, kind of like the 2nd Amendment or jewish lawyers. If there wasn't abortion there'd be exponentially more people on government aid.

Polish women aren't as slutty as most of their western counterparts so it's only a big deal in the left leaning circles. You can still get an abortion in cases of rape, incest, health problems, etc., but not because of being a stupid slut. Various polls show that the majority of Poles believe abortion is inappropriate and should be reserved for only certain circumstances. A minority support "on demand" (the 21% most liberal of society) while 71% were against it. At the same time though, the majority supported it if the child was handicapped, it threatened mother's life, rape, incest, etc.

In 2005, a guy performed an abortion on his gf. She couldn't get one due to being 5 months pregnant at the time. She tried to give herself one, miscarry, but it didn't work out. Eventually she asked dude to kick her/step on her which did the trick. He got 40 years. She got nothing since a woman can't be charged with killing her own fetus in their state.
AntV 5 | 634
23 May 2022 #2,182
Sentient life?

In your opinion, is ability to experience pain the deciding factor? Why?

- "sentient" or not

I would have to assume if sentient is the deciding factor then the emotional anguish of the 700 or so people who have the condition that blocks them for feeling pain must be unimaginable.
jon357 71 | 20,104
23 May 2022 #2,183
In your opinion, is ability

In your opinion, is sentience about pain?
Novichok 3 | 6,969
23 May 2022 #2,184
In your opinion, is ability to experience pain the deciding factor? Why?

It's just another act of desperation on their part. They already lost the heartbeat debate. Now they want awareness.

Next: IQ, knowing the alphabet, and algebra.

is sentience about pain?

Since you have no sentience when drunk and asleep,...
AntV 5 | 634
23 May 2022 #2,185
@jon357

It's about the capacity to perceive or experience feeling. In this case, what perception or feeling other than pain would we be talking about?

Why is sentience germane to aborting a human life in the womb?
jon357 71 | 20,104
23 May 2022 #2,186
It's about the capacity to perceive

So basically knowing you're there or not?
Novichok 3 | 6,969
23 May 2022 #2,187
Why is sentience germane to aborting a human life in the womb?

It's not. Just as it is not when you are in a coma. He is just bullsh*iting to have the last word. People like him don't know what life really is.

So basically knowing you're there or not?

When you are drunk and asleep, is your GPS still telling you where you are?
Do you have more of this kind of crap or is that it?
Can you produce the full list of what conditions an unborn human being must meet to satisfy people like you?
jon357 71 | 20,104
23 May 2022 #2,188
coma

" At most, a coma lasts for a few days or weeks. As soon as patients open their eyes, they are said to "awaken" from the coma"

scientificamerican.com/article/how-can-we-tell-if-a-comatose-patient-is-conscious/
jon357 71 | 20,104
23 May 2022 #2,189
Some ver6 good points here, on both sides of the right to choose debate.
bbc.co.uk/ethics/abortion/
Novichok 3 | 6,969
23 May 2022 #2,190
At most, a coma lasts for a few days or weeks. As soon as patients open their eyes,

At most, pregnancy lasts for a few months. As soon as babies open their mouths they scream and ask what's for lunch.
So now, forget the principle. It's the time of "sentience" that counts. So where is the limit? Four hours of four months?
As I said, can you produce the full list of your crap as we can deal with it all at once...


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