PO-PiS again neck and neck

PiS INCREASES LEAD: The latest TNS survey gives PiS a 7-point lead over PO: PiS 30, PO 23, SLD 10 and Palikot 6. PSL is out of the running. The last poll cited had shown a 6-point lead, so gradually, slowly, step by step...

Maybe we'll soon be regularly seeing PiS 43, PO 22, SLD 12, Solidary Poland 8. No Palikot or PSL.
Support for all parties in the TNS poll is rather low compared to other pollsters' results. That may reflect the interviewing methods, the sample being used and/or declining public interest and trust in politics.

Yet more disaster for PiS. The party should be very worried - PO are polling at 6 year lows, yet they haven't increased their poll ratings at all. This shows that PO voters are not defecting to PiS, which is what PiS need to win an election.

I've said it and I'll say it until I'm sick - PiS cannot get above 30% of the vote with Kaczynski as leader.


On the basis of this poll, PO win again. Remember the cordon sanitaire needs to be broken in order for PiS to win.


43% has never been achieved in the Third Republic. Even the overwhelming PO win in 2007 only gave them 41.5% of the vote, and PO aren't leading an unpopular coalition.

There always is 'ten pierwszy raz'!
Admittedly Palikot could be a stumblign block but he has already been knocked out a few times, we can therefore only hope he won't make it but SP will. PSL will hook up with PiS to stay in power. They'd join any coalition that would give them some cabinet posts. Their plus side is that they reject a socially radical libertine agenda.

This has always been the assumption, but I think they would demand the head of Kaczynski as the price of a coalition. They would know that it would be electoral suicide to prop up another Kaczynski government - look what happened last time round.


The problem is that PiS really don't want Solidarna Polska to make it. If they do, Ziobro (who was humiliated by Kaczynski) is not going to support PiS blindly - he is a smart, smart man, and he won't hand over his 30 seats without getting significant concessions.

It's worth pointing out that if the election result produces a close result between PO and PiS, it's not inconceivable that PO could offer significant concessions in order to get the liberal part of PiS to break away in order to form a government.

Total :)))

Poor Greggy. Another 4 years hoping and begging for the Dear Leader to come and rule him.

Or conversely, PiS could get the decent and sensible PO wing (Gowin et al) to break away in order to form a government. The problem with SP is: could they garner enough votes to retain their present number of seats?

If they could, I'm sure PiS would invite them into a colaiton. Unless, that is, PiS won outright and could go it alone (Kaczyński's delcared goal). Politics is not about bearing grudges if they don't pay off. It's about eating humble pie when required to get into or stay in power. Most of the rest is mere sloganeering.

At the very least they would demand that. And he would either refuse or not fully deliver on his promise (as usual). That could well split PiS in two, with PO swooping in to collect the MPs who DuckBoy would have expelled from the party in his traditional style.


i.e. at the very least the head of DuckBoy. In which case, see above.


That's possible but only if Palikot's mob are out of it and PSL too. Even in that case I'd think a PO-SLD coalition is far more likely.


Not going to happen: everybody has seen what DuckBoy does to his allies.


a) Doubtful.
b) Every vote they get is a vote PiS loses.

It's one theory. The problem is that Gowin's views on economics would seem to be completely at odds with PiS.


Probably not. PiS, for all their failings, are very very good at crushing opposition like this.


This is why I don't understand the support for Kaczynski within the party. It's obvious that winning a majority is nearly impossible, and he seems to be determined to either have all the power or none.


Absolutely. That's why I think a PO-PiS coalition down the line is not impossible once Kaczynski goes.

Yes, indeed, you can only hope. Polls have proven to be worthless and underestimate Palikot by a few %.


That's a bold statement. Last time anyone hooked up with PiS, experienced a political death. I mean, I'm personally happy that Samoobrona and LPR are gone, they were terrible parties, but it serves as a big fat warning sign to prospective future members of that coalition.


That's not really a plus side.


It's funny, yet alarming to see the words decent, sensible and Gowin in one sentence.


Kłamczyński declared goal to rule alone is just a goal. Probably never to be achieved.


Which PiS seems to be forgetting.

It's because they have an un-shakeable faith in the rightness of what they believe: they very simply are right and everybody else in Poland is wrong. In their minds all they need to do is wait until other people realise that they are right. It's precisely the same mentality that causes Poles to leave rental properties empty for years on end rather than simply drop the rent they're asking for it.

Still, I'm certainly not complaining PiS is unelectable with DuckBoy at the helm but the bitter, twisted, hate-filled, envious, 'Catholic' nutters will flock to him while he's there and thus they will never get any power at all and thus Poland can continue to get better and better.

More mud-slinging?!

Not at all, it is an often used name for the man in question. Given that you have seen fit to give us the inaccurate 'Kosher gazette' and your various bits of bollocks about the 'President' of Warsaw, I'd say I'm surprised to see you being so hypocritical. Oh, wait a minute, no I'm not.

Interesting that you don't have a word to say about PiS being unelectable under DuckBoy and about him ensuring that the bitter, twisted, hate-filled, envious, 'Catholic' nutters never get anywhere near power. But then it is quite difficult to argue against the blindingly obvious, isn't it?

It's the anti-Catholic nutters who pose a threat to the Polish nation. Instead of trying to turn Poland into Amsterdam, why don't they just quietly leave and move there. If they love to wade in filth, so be it!

Could you perhaps outline why they are a threat?

Sorry Polonius but EVERY Pole with voting rights has the right to decide how Poland should look like- one side or the other. You are in no position to send them abroad as I don't have the right to tell right wing supporters to move to Vatican

Moral dissolution has posed a threat, often an irreversible one, to many a system or empire. Rome fell becuase it became too fat, flabby, dissolute and pleasure-obsessed to withstand the barbarian invasions. By wallowing in libertine, anything-goes dissolution, the West is building tis own coffin and providing free ammunition to the expanding ranks of militant Islam. Every so-called 'pride' parade more deeply entrenches the view that the decadent West is truly a Satan which must be destroyed by the loyal children of Allah.

I'd also love to learn that. However, I fear that all we'll get will be off-topic wind-baggery and insults, as usual.


Well, if they do want to live in a Catholic state rather than a secular one....

That's very true but voters should also be responsible for the decisions of gov they helped to elect. PO voters should pay higher VAT and interests from huge debts the clowns made. You brought this cancer on all of us.

One doesn't need to be a catholic to have morals.


You clearly show a lack of understanding of the democratic process.

1- I never voted PO
2- if that the case maybe laws created by certain governments should also aply only to their voters? It lacks logic Grzegorz.

Some people like to have a church within wallking distance. But a brothel on every street is more to the liking of those with a different set of moral and aesthetic preferences. À chacun son goût! Which do you prefer?

Must've been Jewish.

I wouldn't mind it.

Yet another poll, this time CBOS, has reinforced the general trend of PiS in the lead. It also confirms relatively low support for all parties. Good news is that the Palicreeps are out of the running.

Results: PiS 27, PO 23, SLD 9, PSL 6, Palicoot & Circus 3.

Superb news! PO are more unpopular than ever but PiS are still below where they were in the last election. Got to love the utter ineptness of PiS.


Are you really trying to prove that you are utterly unable to go more than three minutes without insulting people?

You inspired me with your Duckboy, Duckist rhetoric. Your beloved *********** deserve nothing better. And Gronkowiec really is toxic like a staph infection. Good thing she's going to be recalled in a referendum.

And with an ageing support base they aren't likely to improve that.

PiS have got a vibrant młodzieżówka (check out what that means in your hard-copy or online dictionary).

Unfortunately for them that hasnt really translated into votes for them, has it?

By the way, why do you think I'd need to look that word up in a dictionary?