PO-PiS again neck and neck

Just reality - how many businesses belong to Polish owners only?To clarify I don't mean self-employed or kiosk leasing.

Most of them.

I know quite a few company owners who have factories here.

As for SA companies - the whole point of such companies is that the shares can be bought by anyone.

Ironside, you do realise that many Polish companies have been aggressively expanding in East-Central Europe too? The owners of Tymbark are one such example.

Anyone know where to find a list of Polish-majority-owned companies, their field and annual turnover?

Most Polish companies won't have such data available as they're privately held.

GUS figures are so confusing and shredded as if to purposely conceal such info.

Such information simply won't be commonly available - I don't think the KRS even contains details of someone's nationality.

It's not just nationality but where a company is headquartered. Is Poland where their head office is?

Data please.

You first.

Here, not all of them is 100% Polish owned but more or less they are Polish(about 200%).Not that much overtly and how many of them has an international sway?

map of companies in Poland: wykop.pl/ramka/1470655/mapa-okolo-200-w-miare-polskich-firm-marek-oraz-przedsiebiorstw/

And that proves that a vast majority of Polish companies is not Polish owned how exactly? It's a nice map, but it's quite irrelevant towards the argument. At the very end of 2012, the National Registry held over 22 thousand companies incorporated in Poland:

The number of companies registered in the National Court in 2012 . Highest in eight years in Poland area.

Between January and mid-September 2012 . , Based in NCR , more than 22,000 companies. Most of them , as many as 6.8 thousand , started its activity in this region.

So far you more or less proved 200 of them are Polish owned. We know nothing of the remaining 21800.

If you consider all the one-man companies, the corner shops, self-employed telemarketers and computer reparimen and all those registered to do 'działalność gospodarczą' then a staggering figure can be acheived. I had in mind companeis like Orlen operating a chain of petrol stations in Germany, or the Solaris coach company, or others with a visibly Polish image and an annual turnover in the multi-million range.

KRS only registers certain legal entities (such as sp. z o.o., S.A.) which - in general - operate on a bigger scale and with bigger money than just self-employed owners of corner shops. That's where the number of 22 thousand I provided came from. Even so, Ironside provided something that we could consider proof of around 200 relatively-large companies being Polish. We still do not know anything about the other 21800 companies. Stating that only a few of them are Polish owned is completely unsubstantiated.

Wouldn't you agree that a company could be called Polish-owend if Poles held a majrotiy stake, even just 51%?

Sure, we could say that. Why do you ask?

Not to mention banks majority of which in Poland are in the foreign hands. Also, shopping center do not belong to Poles.

Makes no difference. In fact, they're at the mercy of the Polish government, given the currency in use.


What difference does it make?

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for you?


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For all of us. They're somewhat at the mercy of the Polish government - and the Polish government has shown that they will keep them on a much shorter leash than elsewhere.


Not really.

Worth pointing out that the best shopping centre in Poland is squarely in Polish hands.

Go and put your money in a polish bank then. You're free to choose whose services to use.


Which one? And what's the big deal?

The second largest rail freight company in Europe is 100% Polish owned.

Any lsit of companies majority owned by Poles and giving the percentage fthe stake?

None, because the KRS doesn't keep such records.

Exactly. Hence the assumption that there are only very few Polish companies is completely unsubstantiated. An obvious case of demagogy.

Latest Homo Homini poll.

PiS 32
PO 26
SLD 15
SP 5
PSL 4
Palikot 4

sondaz.wp.pl

Excellent. We can see that the likely option of PO/SLD + one other shall win.

PiS are still electorally nowhere and still well short of what they need.

Which one :)))?

Could be any - even Solidarna Polska might be persuaded in exchange for power, although it seems unlikely that they'll get into the Sejm.

A rump PiS without Kaczynski is also a possibility.

The latest Homo Homini poll shows Pis 32, PO 26, SLD 15 and SP 5. Luckily Palikot has been booted out with only 4% and Solitary Poland has moved into the No. 4 slot. PSL is also offside at 4%. In theory, the PO and SLD could form a coalition, except that if that were known before election day, they would not even get 26% of the vote. And since they have been publicizing with the idea, the opposition will hit them over the head with it and maybe even make it the main plank of their election campaign.

Whoa. Nice propaganda. Props to you Polonius3.