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Polish Parliamentary Elections 2023


Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,904
17 Oct 2023 #661
The Left is on the way down in Germany too....seems to be a european "thing"!
mafketis 37 | 10,972
17 Oct 2023 #662
biggest loser of the elections It is the Left who attracted only about 8% votes,

I think that PiS and KO voters were largely fixed long ago. Lewica and TD were competing for the same voters and after a fairly weak start TD finished strong, pretty much everyone agrees that Hołownia had the best performance in the reżimowa "debate" so he took some undecided votes from Lewica.
Korvinus 3 | 539
17 Oct 2023 #663
I see you still can`t deal with the defeat.

PiS lost 41 seats in the parliament due its pro-immigrant policies. Everyone who follows in its footsteps will suffer similar fate and if Tusk manages to form a coalition of 5 parties it won't be long before next elections.
Lenka 5 | 3,523
17 Oct 2023 #664
PiS lost 41 seats in the parliament due its pro-immigrant policies.

That's a big assumption. Why do you think that was the reason?
amiga500 4 | 1,546
17 Oct 2023 #665
Did they lose coz a few times in the past they supported PIS in passing new laws and

The opposite, they lose because they assosciated too closely with Tusk and Czarzasty and comrades went to the last million heart march. Why chose the ugly stepsister when you can vote for the real thing ie PO?. Unlike Treczia Droga who learnt their lesson, boycoted the march and made their own path. a distinction from PO and PiS. The results are very suprising from the polls before the march.
Paulina 16 | 4,407
17 Oct 2023 #666
Hello Poles!

How are we feeling today?

I can't speak for others, but this is the way I feel :))):



Lenka 5 | 3,523
17 Oct 2023 #667
I feel content. And positively surprises. And 'In your face' to all my lovely PF opponents 😀
gumishu 15 | 6,147
17 Oct 2023 #668
Szczepan Twardoch (Polish author, a 'democratic camp' voter) on the 'ends of democracy' of the last couple of years - wprost.pl/polityka/11443192/wpis-twardocha-wywolal-burze-co-z-tymi-1231412-koncami-demokracji.html
Paulina 16 | 4,407
17 Oct 2023 #669
I feel content. And positively surprises.

I'm positively surprised too. Clearly people took these elections very seriously and mobilised. Even young people! 👏
💪
pawian 224 | 24,691
17 Oct 2023 #670
but this is the way I feel :))):

The same here.. The news of the victory of all decent people in Poland has gradually been reaching me for 2 days, I am in a state of bliss right now. I smile to students and promise them a lot of tolerant attitude and good marks in future tests. hahahaha

all my lovely PF opponents 😀

Yes, now it is our turn to enjoy. :):):)

If you`re happy and you know it clap your hands!!! hahahahaha

Even young people!

As an educator,. I did my part, too. Most teachers did, I suppose. :):):)
amiga500 4 | 1,546
17 Oct 2023 #671
Yes, now it is our turn to enjoy. :):):)

Enjoy what yet now? Wait till you have actually formed a government and implemented a policy that you personally feel benefits poles.
Lenka 5 | 3,523
17 Oct 2023 #672
We are already happy PiS is in no position to make more mess.
pawian 224 | 24,691
17 Oct 2023 #673
The opposite, they lose because they assosciated too closely with Tusk

You mean Tusk gave them the Kiss of Death??? :):):) Funny.

wprost.pl/polityka/11443192/wpis-twardocha-

Sorry, a link is not enough, we don`t have time to check it out, especially when we know it has your recommendation. Provide a short description of the article, or even a translation of its introduction so that we know if it is worth opening.

Enjoy what yet now?

The well established fact that PiS is going to lose power. :):):)
mafketis 37 | 10,972
17 Oct 2023 #674
The real question now is how much time is Duda going to give PiS to create a government (and fail) before giving the opposition a chance?

I saw an article that suggested that Duda can help PiS stay in power well into December or even early 2024....
pawian 224 | 24,691
17 Oct 2023 #675
Wait till you have actually formed a government

Piece of cake compared to winning the elections. :)::)

Duda can help PiS stay in power

Yes, anything is possible. As I said earlier, we can wait., Duda can continue making an azhole of himself, but it certainly won`t help PiS at the coming presidential elections. hahahaha

I would even advise him to obstruct as much as he can, to further destroy PiS` chances in the future.
The new gov will be created sooner or later.
amiga500 4 | 1,546
17 Oct 2023 #676
Piece of cake compared to winning the elections.

The hard part will be agreeing on policy as a broad/fraud coalition, imagine Petru and Zandberg trying to come to agreement about anything to do with improving polish society. Not that is a clown show I will be enjoying immensely. :) :)
Paulina 16 | 4,407
17 Oct 2023 #677
We are already happy PiS is in no position to make more mess.

Yup, exactly! :))))
pawian 224 | 24,691
17 Oct 2023 #678
Petru

They will find a compromise and the peacemaker for the rivalling factions will be Mr Honourable Prime Minister Tusk. Ha!
amiga500 4 | 1,546
17 Oct 2023 #679
They will find a compromise

A compromise that will do nothing for Poland because be full of half-measures. pulling in different directions at same time, and symbolic gestures to placate the headlines. Instead of a focussed, effort.
pawian 224 | 24,691
17 Oct 2023 #680
be full of half-measures. pulling in different directions at same time,

That is why I mentioned Tusk as a peacemaker and leader.
It is normal in broad coalitions. One of half measures will be returning to abortion compromise which existed for decades. Femiinists and radicals expect completely free abortion law soon, but they will have to wait a few years.
Paulina 16 | 4,407
17 Oct 2023 #681
A compromise that will do nothing for Poland

Removing PiS from power will do a lot already.
pawian 224 | 24,691
17 Oct 2023 #682
PiS lost 41 seats in the parliament due its pro-immigrant policies

Of course not. They lost coz they are incompetent arrogant political gangsters who have intentionally enraged major social groups which I already mentioned. E.g, women. And those anti PiS groups decided to take revenge at last. The Revenge of the Nerds part 1 !!!! Part 2 in 2025 during presidential elections - stay tuned! hahahaha
pawian 224 | 24,691
17 Oct 2023 #683
As an educator,. I did my part, too. Most teachers did, I suppose. :):):)

This is what I wrote in another thread after PIS Duda won the presidential elections in 2020. It seems I was a prophet:

I am not disappointed, but look into the political future with optimism. Trzaskowski`s result isn`t so bad, it means there are still millions of decent intelligent people in Poland who don`t let liars and manipulators brainwash them with bolshevik propaganda and socialist benefits. .

Long live free Poland! We shall never surrender!
Yes, that`s my motto which will be my guideline for the coming years. I can promise you I will do my best to increase the number of decent intelligent voters before future elections. I will work hard on/with my students to provide them with proper education so that they can distingush authoritarian fraudsters from worthy guys. The polls among voters proved that the decent candidate was chosen by the majority of educated Poles. That is my task to spread that trend and I will not shun it.

I suppose the trend from now on is only downhill for PiS. Decent people will prevail one day.To all Trzaskowski` voters and supporters, don`t lose hope and work hard for better freer wealthier Poland.

Miloslaw 19 | 5,081
17 Oct 2023 #684
That is why I mentioned Tusk as a peacemaker and leader.

Tusk is a self serving career politician.Anyone who trusts him is an idiot.And that includes you.
pawian 224 | 24,691
17 Oct 2023 #685
Tusk

Kneel down, mongrel, when you utter this noble name. Ha!
Miloslaw 19 | 5,081
17 Oct 2023 #686
when you utter this noble name

There is nothing noble about Tusk, he is like Blair in the UK,or Macron in France, a self serving toad.
pawian 224 | 24,691
17 Oct 2023 #687
This is what I wrote in another thread after PIS Duda won the presidential elections in 2020.

And various rightist azholes were laughing. Hey, dolno, where are you, azhole?

You commented 3 years ago, among others.

Hey good luck in three years time !!! hahahahahaha can you make it through the next 3 years ?

As you can see, we could. Congratulate us!

You also said:

Loooooosssssseeeers should shut their gobs now

I didn`t and that`s why we have won.

Where you are now to laugh at yourself, darling???
dolnoslask 5 | 2,920
17 Oct 2023 #688
Hey, dolno,

Hey Pawian , I thought we called a truce, no problems i'm the wrong side of sixty to worry about politics any more , blood pressure bladder control are my main concerns these days , you youngsters enjoy the fruits of the choices that you make as for me i'm off to Vegas in the next few days to gamble away what little money I have left, I'm happy that on my return that I will have a government that will pay me to sit on my ass and do nothing , all is good, keep paying them taxes to support me.
pawian 224 | 24,691
18 Oct 2023 #689
I will have a government that will pay me to sit on my ass and do nothing

That was introduced by bolshevik PiS gov. We`ll see if the 13th and 14th pension remain. One of the reasons PiS were ousted. Pensioners voted for PIS but their support was not enough coz it was counterbalanced by younger generations who realise they have to pay bigger taxes so that pensions can be higher.

keep paying them taxes to support me.

When young Poles leave because of economic burdens and only us, the old, remain in Poland, who is going to pay taxes for our pensions??? I hope you have come to peace with the idea of mass foreign immigration including exotic one. :):):)

Hey Pawian , I thought we called a truce,

Maybe, I don`t remember. Let`s call it from now. I couldn`t resists calling you out on your silly triumphalism from 3 years ago.
pawian 224 | 24,691
18 Oct 2023 #690
Turnout in biggest cities is higher than the national 74.38%

Warszawa - 84,92 %.
Poznań - 82,92
Kraków - 81,95
Gdańsk - 81,5
Wrocław 81,16
Łódź - 79,28
Katowice - 78,73
Szczecin - 77,88
Białystok - 77,64
Bydgoszcz - 77,54
Lublin - 75,79


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