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Hołownia - a rising star in Polish politics?


Cargo pants 3 | 1,491
11 Oct 2023 #61
Can you even vote in Poland you sewer resident?What right do you have to comment on a foreign country?GFY
OP pawian 223 | 24,535
12 Oct 2023 #62
Just dream on

It is a beautiful dream which is going to turn into reality! Ha! The opposition takes power. PiS gangsters are taken to independent courts to account for all their crimes - minor and serious. The EU gives up punishing Poland for breaking the rule of law. Normalcy prevails in major spheres of life at last.
mafketis 37 | 10,907
12 Oct 2023 #63
beautiful dream which is going to turn into reality! Ha! The opposition takes power

I'm a bit more.... sober. I'm assuming that PiS will win but hopefully not by enough to be able to form a government (who besides Konfederacja wants to work with them?)

The question is how many more will vote for them than polls indicate. We know about 10 % or more of those who vote for PiS are covert voters - they're too embarrassed to admit it publicly so you need to add 10% of anything they're polling (at least)

One poll said they're at about 31 so I assume it will be closer to 35 %....

What are other polls saying?
OP pawian 223 | 24,535
12 Oct 2023 #64
for PiS are covert voters - they're too embarrassed to admit it publicly

Yes, it is true - voting PiS some people feel embarassed coz they know what decent guys think of them. :):)

t 31 so I assume it will be closer to 35 %..

Yes, these are good estimates. Sunday will show.
OP pawian 223 | 24,535
14 Nov 2023 #65
Hołownia - a rising star in Polish politics?

Yes!

Mr Szymon Hołownia, by the decision of the democratic coalition, has become the Speaker of the New Parliament. And he has already proved that rightist gangsters will have a hard nut to crack during sessions.

Here is his ironic reply to one of die hard PiS gangsters:

"Mr. MP, I must admit honestly that these are some standards that I do not fully understand. I show you respect, I show respect for your position, I allow you to speak in accordance with the regulations, but for this I receive something that could be called an affront. If these are your standards of parliamentarism, I must say that I deeply regret it, " Szymon Hołownia, the Minister of Education, summed up the speech.



amiga500 4 | 1,511
16 Nov 2023 #66
Mr Szymon Hołownia, by the decision of the democratic coalition, has become the Speaker of the New Parliament.

Has he? Sorry i've just tuned right out. tune out , turn off, drop out. As Prof. Timothy Leary said.
OP pawian 223 | 24,535
16 Nov 2023 #67
Has he?

Yes, he has. And as a former TV celebrity, he proved perfect for this role. He is a typical attention sicker in a positive sense - he is intent on doing good things to please people. Unlike Novi who is an attention sicker who achieves his goals by irritating people.

Those stiff rightists will have a big problem with Hołownia.

He looks like a nerd but certainly has enough balls to deal with PiS gangsters.

Check his address to the nation from today: He speaks clearly, fluently, like a professional actor.


amiga500 4 | 1,511
17 Nov 2023 #68
I thought PiS had a month to form a a new gov? what happened?
Lenka 5 | 3,499
17 Nov 2023 #69
Marszałkowie are voted in by the MP's. PiS still be proposing their PM and try to form a gov.
mafketis 37 | 10,907
17 Nov 2023 #70
Marszałkowie are voted in by the MP's. PiS still be proposing their PM

They're still trying to get their marszałek voted in because they've decided to go all in for Elżbieta "Reasumpcja" Witek and won't nominate anyone else (and Witek won't be accepted by other parties).

yeah... Morawiecki's gonna be able to form a government..... somehow....

And of course Ziobro is degrading into a creature of pure malignant rage... though he still does have a sense of humor...

twitter.com/Andrzej_Miland/status/1724492823976681931
OP pawian 223 | 24,535
17 Nov 2023 #71
Hołownia - a rising star in Polish politics?

A rising star which one day might successfuly compete for the President of Poland`s position.

I won`t mind if he proves he can speak English,French and other languages as well as Mr Trzaskowski.
OP pawian 223 | 24,535
18 Nov 2023 #72
I won`t mind if he proves he can speak English,French and other languages as well as Mr Trzaskowski.

Mr Trzaskowski excels in languages.
However, I just found out that Mr Hołownia excels in writing books. He has published about 20 so far. Amasing!

However, few people realize that Szymon Hołownia is also the author of many books. The Speaker of the Sejm has written over 20 publications. The first of them - " The Church for Intermediate Advanced People " - was published in 2004. Three years later, " Tablets with a cross " was published, in which the author deals with difficult questions asked by believers. In turn, " People on Suitcases " is a collection of Hołownia's conversations with people whose illness or other life situation almost led to death.

The politician also wrote two books with his former TV programme colleague, Marcin Prokop . The book " God, Money and Rock'n'Roll " was extremely popular and received good reviews for its attempt to collide two worlds and sets of often opposing views of on-screen partners. In turn, in 2013, another joint item by the presenters was published, " Everything's OK. We're sorting out our lives ." The last book written by Hołownia with Prokop is " Half and Half: Conversations not for children " , published in 2019 .

" Factory of Jutra " from 2020 is Szymon Hołownia's last release so far. The book tells about the reasons and background of the long-time journalist and presenter's entry into the world of politics.


Mr Hołownia and his wife, the pilot of fighter planes: They have two daughters.



Lyzko 42 | 9,499
19 Nov 2023 #73
Many singers typically sing convincingly in several languages.
Look at Abba, Nina Hagen, Adele etc......
amiga500 4 | 1,511
19 Nov 2023 #74
He has published about 20 so far. Amasing!

Are you sure he wrote all those books? Or did his TVN and WSI handlers give him a helping hand?
OP pawian 223 | 24,535
19 Nov 2023 #75
Or did his TVN

When he wrote most of them, he wasn`t a politician yet. He became one in 2020 when he rivaled for president`s position. .
OP pawian 223 | 24,535
21 Nov 2023 #76
Today another session of the Parliament. PIS gangsters tried to obstruct but the Speaker dealt with them amazingly well.

- SpeakerHołownia is doing quite well in this difficult obstructive situation. His personality, but also the calmness learned through media appearances, is the best antidote to attempts to throw people off balance. No one would feel comfortable standing at the head of a body where there are shouts, stomps and sounds that are inappropriate. But Hołownia deals with it all with stoic calm - says political scientist, prof. Agnieszka Kasińska-Metryka.

Watch the guy tossing PiS gangsters like rag dolls with his wit and irony:


OP pawian 223 | 24,535
5 Mar 2024 #77
Today the conservative Speaker of the Parl announced he put off the abortion discussion until 11 April aka after local gov elections.

Comments under the news feed:

Hołownia's scandalous decision. Women will not be deceived again!

Hołownia, be careful not to spoil the local government elections.

Why are human rights up for debate? This should be obvious!

Maybe Hołownia should visit the French Parliament

Hołownia: a project of the Order of Malta and Opus Dei to maintain the influence of the clergy in Poland.

Church clown

Ladies, now you probably have no doubts about who not to vote for in the next elections. Please give a signal to the Third Way that it is very close to being a road to nowhere.

Szymoś and Tigerek are **** Q**ts - fekk them!!! -WOMEN will NEVER vote for you again!

Hołownia is afraid of losing voters, he would like to eat the apple and have an apple

Hołownia. You've lost my voice. Forever.

There will be elections next year, I hope that the girls will not suffer from multiple sclerosis. REMEMBER this waterman.

I can't believe how you can so rudely trample on women who have given, among others, victory for this drone. A disgusting guy (together with a basket-pebble), peddling an important topic for millions of women, disregarding the quality of their lives and even their lives themselves.

hołownia + kamysz: we don't care about your conscience, so don't interfere with ours.


etc etc etc in the same style - tens, hundreds of posts. Amasing!!!!

Hey, all conservative posters in the forum, you should start supporting Szymon Hołownia coz he is your man. :):):) hahahaha

Exactly!! :):):)
OP pawian 223 | 24,535
5 Mar 2024 #78
There will be elections next year, I hope that the girls will not suffer from multiple sclerosis. REMEMBER this waterman.

That commenter meant presidential elections in May 2025. Hołownia has announced a few times he is going to run for the position.
After today`s decision, though, his chances are slim, I am afraid. Polish women won`t forget this procrastination. :):):)
jon357 75 | 22,573
6 Mar 2024 #79
Deleting it until after the local elections is probably a shrewd move, assuming the change does indeed go through afterwards.
OP pawian 223 | 24,535
7 Mar 2024 #80
Hołownia. You've lost my voice. Forever.
etc etc etc in the same style - tens, hundreds of posts. Amasing!!!!

This is war!!! Polish women again united against their mysogynist enemy! Like in the old good times when PiS ruled in Poland. Amasing!!!! :):):)

He can kiss goodbye to his presidency in 2025 of which he has been dreaming for years.

Why are conservatives so stupid???? :):):
Ironside 50 | 12,438
7 Mar 2024 #81
Polish women again united

Again more nonsense, Nobody cares and is that really what is important right now?
Gypsy Tusk and his crew in charge need to be watched closely, also what about framers? Those are important issues not some made-up stories of a few activists.
OP pawian 223 | 24,535
7 Mar 2024 #82
Nobody cares

Exactly!! PiS gangsters also hadn`t cared about women until they lost power in Poland. And Konfederacja got 7%. hahahaha

is that really what is important right now?

Yes!!! Polish women, not males, decide what is important for them!

also what about framers?

Framers who framed Roger Bunny are a thing of the past! Stop obsessing about them!!!



Ironside 50 | 12,438
8 Mar 2024 #83
Yes!!! Polish women,

crazy fringe loonies, not women.
---

is a thing of the past!

I think you are begging for a civil war. Don't cry if that happens and you lose. --
OP pawian 223 | 24,535
8 Mar 2024 #84
Don't cry if that happens and you lose.

Why do our US rightists, e.g, Joker, and Polish far rightists aka Iron dream of starting a civil war and winning it? Do they hope the war is the only way for them to peddle their sick agenda against the majority of the population?

crazy fringe loonies, not women.

Please, don`t stop. Konfederacja needs to lose even more support. hahahaha
Joker 2 | 2,222
8 Mar 2024 #85
Why do our US rightists, e.g, Joker, and Polish far rightists aka Iron

What civil war?

Just more of your stupid projections thats all.

sick agenda against the majority of the population?

Youre the extreme leftist on this forum spewing hate at vitriol all of the time. How many time have you called other "nazis" on here? So, Fuk off and die. loser!!!
OP pawian 223 | 24,535
8 Mar 2024 #86
What civil war?

The one you promoted in the US thread. You openly admitted to dreaming of it.
Joker 2 | 2,222
8 Mar 2024 #87
The one you promoted in the US thread.

Prove it, Jerzy! Im sure you made it up or took sth I said out of context... You always talk out of both sides of your mouth and not to be trusted.
OP pawian 223 | 24,535
8 Mar 2024 #88
Prove it, Jerzy!

It is very easy to locate in the forum`s archive. You mentioned civil war on several occasions.

Here, you said : we will win the civil war against these snowflakes easily.
polanda.com/off-topic/poland-usa-news-part-85543/76/#msg1758964

Here, you said: good thing after the civil war. The fairies and snowflakes wont win, stay turned.
polanda.com/off-topic/poland-usa-news-part-87170/95/#msg1887532
OP pawian 223 | 24,535
8 Mar 2024 #89
After today`s decision, though, his chances are slim, I am afraid. Polish women won`t forget this procrastination.

It isn`t only my opinion. A lot of women used that argument in their comments.
Good!! Azholes have to learn at last what power of women is!!! PIS bolsheviks learnt it the hard way when they lost power. Amassingly, Hołownia seems a stubborn student. But he will learn after the lost elections next year. hahahaha

According to Kinga Rusin, "Szymon Hołownia's decision caused abortion to become an election issue."

" If you do not want to suffer defeat in the local, European and presidential elections, please stop playing on women's nerves. There is no consent to treat women as objects, to play with our safety and our rights, there is no consent for our lives to be in the hands of men, as if there was no progress in civilization, as if we were slaves at the mercy of others," we read.


Holy words!
OP pawian 223 | 24,535
11 Mar 2024 #90
Hey, all conservative posters in the forum, you should start supporting Szymon Hołownia coz he is your man. :):):) hahahaha

Hołownia was hiding his views on abortion. He thought he would wait it out, that he would escape from it until after the local government elections, and preferably also the European parliamentary elections, but you can't escape forever.

It turned out that Szymon is a closet conservative His voters feel fooled today.


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