Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament

No, I doubt that it had anything to do with him being suddenly "certain", but everything to do with all eyes being on Poland now and on the Polish Parliament.


What on Earth are you talking about?


I see you're pretty detached from reality... o_O Also, what do you mean about Hołownia "kicking out Konfederacja"? He can't kick out a whole party from the Parliament lol

No, I shouldn't, because we're discussing Poland and Polish politics here.


No, it isn't.




:)

@Paulina
He has stated to TV that he will work on that possibility

Welcome to Oligarchia

No, he didn't. You clearly don't know what you're talking about.


You don't even know what this word means, do you... *sigh*

@Paulina
I know perfectly well what it means, if the ruling elite will start deciding who is going to be in parliament and not the citizens at large. It will turn to a Oligarchy!

youtu.be/LL-_dzUxol0?si=V_OHwMYbP_Dj7Lqc

Holownia about this...

Ther are strict rules, set by law, about parliamentary blocs and which posts or committee roles they're entitled to. It isn't about which party has the bloc or which is in office. It's simply the rules.

As I wrote - you don't seem to know what you're talking about. Hołownia isn't talking about "kicking out Konfederacja from the Parliament". He simply has no right to do that. He's talking about kicking out Konfederacja's Krzysztof Bosak from Prezydium Sejmu:

pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prezydium_Sejmu

That would mean that Bosak wouldn't be the vice-marshal of the Sejm (the Parliament) anymore, that's all, and not that he would be kicked out from the Parliament lol:

businessinsider.com.pl/wiadomosci/sasin-mowi-czy-pis-poprze-wykluczenie-bosaka-z-prezydium-sejmu/205x48v

Our German company has Christmas trees and gifts everywhere and no one cares.

Then he could use words, not a fire extinguisher....

He chose action. Choices have consequences.

Is anyone defending him apart from the usual russtards here?

it's aaa+ trolling the jews for the clicks. respect.

It looks like amiga500 does:

As a media stunt it was brilliant.

@amiga500
It certainly got worldwide headlines.

In Poland, I only see contempt for the twat.

I don't care, I'm definetly going to troll my jewish mates with this one ;)

I was found at a friend's last night. He's Jewish and referred to Braun as a "debil". Then we got drunk and forgot about him.

Poles have this word as well?

Yes.

And use it often.

Происходит от лат. debilis «слабый», из de «из, от», из праиндоевр. *de- + habilis «управляемый, послушный, удобный». Русск. дебил заимств. через франц. débile.

Translation:

Originates from Latin debilis, from de meaning "of/from", and proto-Indo European de* + habilis "domesticated, tame, comfortable". Russian "debil" is borrowed through French débile.

I wonder - did Poles borrow it from Russians by a roundabout way, or also got it from the French?

Why is there no debil in English?

According to an old dictionary that I have ("Słownik wyrazów obcych i zwrotów obcojęzycznych" by Władysław Kopaliński) it seems to come directly from Latin. In Wikipedia it says that in the Polish language it came from German:

pl.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/debil

"etymologia:
(1.1) niem. debiler Mensch < łac. debilis = 'ułomny, słaby'"

pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C5%82ownik_wyraz%C3%B3w_obcych_i_zwrot%C3%B3w_obcoj%C4%99zycznych

Władysław Kopaliński was a Polish Jew, btw.

Polish language contains a lot of germanisms. There's about 2500 German loanwords in Polish listed in the dictionary below...

ksiegarnia.pwn.pl/Slownik-zapozyczen-niemieckich-w-polszczyznie,68423480,p.html

... and here's a list at the Oldenburg University site...

diglib.bis.uni-oldenburg.de/bis-verlag/wdlp/ab_H.html

There's surprisingly many of them, considering the fact that the languages are so different and the peoples were not exactly friendly towards each other throughout history.

Yes, we were taught about various loanwords at school :) For example, Polish word '"rynek" comes from German (came to Poland through the Czech language probably) and apparently from Polish it spread to Eastern Slavic languages already during the Middle Ages:

nck.pl/projekty-kulturalne/projekty/ojczysty-dodaj-do-ulubionych/ciekawostki-jezykowe/RYNEK

How does that happen? Why does Russia get debil from the French, and you get it from the Germans?

It must be a mistake in the Russian dictionary.

Russian is up to its ears in Germanisms. Here's a list of some more modern ones:

der Bruderschaft - Брудершафт
der Schlagbaum - Шлагбаум
der Büstenhalter - Бюстгалтер
die Spritze - Шприц
das Zifferblatt - Циферблат
die Wanne - Ванна

....imagine we weren't "mute", there would be even more! :)

I'm guessing it's because Poles have been neighbours with Germans and Czechs for centuries... At one point the French language was the lingua franca, so that's probably why this word comes from French in Russian. I don't see anything surprising here, tbh.


The same in Polish.


"Biustonosz" in Polish :)


It's "strzykawka" in Polish, but we also have a word "szpryca":

sjp.pwn.pl/slowniki/szpryca.html

...and "szprycować":

sjp.pwn.pl/sjp/szprycowac;2527101.html

So crime did he commit?
Being anti-anything is not a crime, so don't go there, touchy-feely pussies...

@Bratwurst Boy

I'm reading someone's manuscript right now regarding Germanisms in Russian.

The number one category is "military" - with 123 words. Starting with the word soldat.

Source: nsportal.ru/ap/library/drugoe/2017/11/08/nemetskie-zaimstvovaniya-v-russkom-yazyke

...and we got that from the Italians....which had been probably latin before....hach ja, Europe in a nutshell! :)

@Paulina, I do indeed know the difference
between the government and the Sejm, as I'm aware of
the difference between your president vs. your premiere!

That doesn't change the simple fact that Braun believes he's
acting in the interests of his country which is a pretty pathetic
commentary on Poland.

On Poland as a whole? Sorry, but I disagree. Braun is a leader of a far-right party, which is part of a far-right coalition that got only 7.16% of votes in this year's elections to the Parliament. So, he doesn't represent a vast majority of the Polish people.