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Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed


gregy741 5 | 1,232
17 Jul 2017 #121
You great ignorant lummox. We were an occupied nation. Just for a small sample of what that meant,

chill down...i know ,you had some peasants armed with pitchforks causing troubles here and there(i give you credit for that),and you chickened out during second war.

but surely..Poland fought and won vs greatest empires many times..such as ottoman empire ,russian empire.mongol empire german HRE.
we defeated the greatest general of all time as gustav adolfus ,we fought and beat best cavaliers in world(mongols),vs best infantries in world (jannisaries,lanknecht)ect.

pls..Ireland wouldnt survive 2 weeks in our position,or even england would disappear in few months...its fact-scientifically proven
ehhhh women
OP Polonius3 994 | 12,367
17 Jul 2017 #122
long time ago

Any source for that oft-repeated lie or just more hairy-b*llocking?
Any source for the Podunk Gazette or just more of the forum's Liar Laureate being himself?
gregy741 5 | 1,232
17 Jul 2017 #123
Any source for that

here..
Harry
17 Jul 2017 #124
their treasonous lies

Would you care to quote any of those treasonous lies and show how it is a lie? Or is your latest laughable claim exactly the same as the laughable claims which used to be made by the Warsaw correspondent of the Podunk County Polish Pig Farmer's Gazette: just lies told to further the interests of the Party?

Perhaps you have forgotten how to debunk a lie? It's very easy, all one does is point out the reality. For example, you claimed that protesters were planning to throw paving slabs as part of an attempt to storm the Parliament building and I responded by pointing out that in the part of Wiejska we were allowed on has large paving slabs instead of cobblestones. Another example, you claimed that support for the PiSlamic State's attack on independent judiciary can be heard by speaking to any Pole outside the court on Leszno and I responded by pointing out that there is no court on Leszno in Warsaw.

trying to solicit "fraternal assistancce" from Brussels or preferabyl the Bundeswehr.

Are you going to provide any evidence to support that claim? Not even the editor of the Podunk County Polish Pig Farmer's Gazette would let you get away with that one! But it's good to see you showing us how terrified the supporters of the PiSlamic State are that they go as far as claiming that those who want the constitution of Poland to be obeyed are calling for the German army to invade Poland; statements like that simply reek of the fear that's dripping off you and your ilk.

Any source for that oft-repeated lie or just more hairy-b*llocking?

Pretty much everybody who had the misfortune of working with the Warsaw correspondent of the Podunk County Polish Pig Farmer's Gazette.
Ziemowit 14 | 4,278
17 Jul 2017 #125
Urgent: PiS wants to modify the Polish national anthem?

This is the original idea of Piotr Zapart who is the chairman of the comitee for erecting the statue of Jan III Sobieski in Vienna. The verse:

Dał nam przykład Bonaparte, jak zwyciężać mamy!
should be replaced by a new one:
Dał nam przykład Jan Sobieski, jak zwyciężać mamy!".

The idea has received the support of Jacek Żalek, vice-chairman of the PiS parliamentary group. Mr Żalek argues that Napoleon was a loser who lost everything in the end, so he shouldn't be the one who shows the road to victory for the Polish people.

The tabloid Super Express has suggested other candidates for replacing Napoleon in the Polish anthem. These are: Józef Piłsudski, Lech Wałęsa, Jarosław Kaczyński, Antoni Macierewicz. Adam Małysz or Robert Lewandowski.
Atch 22 | 4,096
17 Jul 2017 #126
you had some peasants armed with pitchforks causing troubles here and there

We also had the Legion Irlandaise in Napolean's army (the only foreign legion to be awarded the Eagle), numerous regiments in the Spanish army, we even helped out Poland in the Muscovite Wars :) The list of Irish who served with distinction in foreign armies and were staggering under the weight of their medals and decorations, is too numerous to mention. Why Gregy dear, even Che Guevara's father said, 'the first thing you must understand about my son is that the blood of the Irish revolutionary ran in his veins'. That great image of Guevara that everybody knows was done by an Irish artist called Jim Fitzpatrick who was on his school holidays when he met him in a bar in Co Clare back in 1961. They had a chat po Angielsku and the first thing Guevara talked about was his Irish roots.

you chickened out during second war.

Tens of thousands of Irish men and women joined the British forces. Since you're so keen on facts, the Irish contribution to WWII is precisely that, a fact.

fact-scientifically proven

No it isn't. You're talking through your arse again. Sadly you're too stupid to realise that Britain whom you are claiming would be wiped out in a few weeks, defeated pretty much every army it encountered at those periods of history to which you refer.

Do share with us Missy G, what is it like to go through life knowing nothing about anything whilst not actually realising that you know nothing about anything??
NoToForeigners 9 | 998
17 Jul 2017 #127
They had a chat po Angielsku and the first thing Guevara talked about was his Irish roots

So an anarchist, traitor of his own nation, a bandit and a murderer is considered a hero in Ireland? Rofl!
Atch 22 | 4,096
17 Jul 2017 #128
So an anarchist, traitor of his own nation, a bandit and a murderer is considered a hero in Ireland? Rofl!

Never said that did I? We have enough heroes of our own. I wouldn't say he's a figure of great importance to the Irish but for those who do think about him, opinions are mixed.
Harry
17 Jul 2017 #129
PiS wants to modify the Polish national anthem?

I doubt they care much about it. What they want to do is to get people talking about anything other than their disgusting attack on the Republic of Poland.

Here's a video about what's at stake as explained by a former judge of the Supreme Administrative Court and the Constitutional Court, Ewa Letowska (can't wait to read the Radio Maybach announced character assassination of her which will doubtless promptly be posted by our 'Polish' 'friend'):


NoToForeigners 9 | 998
17 Jul 2017 #130
hose who do think about him, opinions are mixed.

Well we know yours now. Rofl
Atch 22 | 4,096
17 Jul 2017 #131
Where did I ever state that Che Guevara was any kind of hero of mine. I simply stated the fact that an Irish artist was responsible for the well known image of Guevara that one sees plastered all over the place. I don't know a lot about him so can't comment from an informed position, but I have the impression that he wasn't as bad as Fidel and would have made a better leader of Cuba. Unfortunately those South American countries are all politically insane places where the normal rules of civilised statesmanship just don't seem to apply and you must remember that he was operating more than fifty years ago. I'm sure that Guevara loved his country and believed that what he was doing was for the best, but there you go Notty...............one could say much the same of Kaczyński who sees himself as the saviour of Poland and I'm certain believes that he is acting in the country's best interests.

Mind you I do feel that with Kaczyński there's a lot of personal vanity involved and a very real desire to earn a place in the history books, not just a mention on a couple of pages, but a few chapters all to himself.
jon357 74 | 21,760
17 Jul 2017 #132
Antoni Macierewicz

I had to pick myself off the floor laughing when I read that, a real tonic. Then again, there are similarities with Napoleon, both are utterly deranged psychopaths.

The obvious one would be Poland's Nobel Laureate and the hero of the Solidarity movement, Lech Wałęsa, though doubtless that would cause one twin to spin in his grave/s and the other to instantly drop down dead and join him.

Tens of thousands of Irish men and women joined the British forces

Indeed. There have been bad times between the two countries, and there has also been (and is) friendship, decency, support and a lot of good people with a foot on both islands. Neither nation is known for being vindictive.

Kaczyński there's a lot of personal vanity involved and a very real desire to earn a place in the history book

Yes. There's also a great deal of delusion, decades of a lifestyle that is frankly bizarre, a heavy dose of magical thinking and enormous sycophancy from those around him. His face on the night he was voted out of office was a picture to behold, and hopefully we will see that same expression soon.
Ironside 53 | 12,357
18 Jul 2017 #133
it's partly as a result of admitting the former Eastern Bloc countries

Not really, it is the way it was set out to work for some and for some reserved the role of the colonies.

Didn't see that

In that case it is very easily to explain. You see what you want to see. Those who are on the street are paid thugs, some soviet idiots lied to by the politician of PO and mix of a few other misguided or sinister people who came to express their hate and howl like mindless animals.

PO and others entities supported by the Soros money, German and possibly Putin's money are out there to destabilise Poland, democracy and its legally elected government. They're traitors and saboteurs and they should be hanged or at least put in a prison.

Poland which was returned to them as a result of the allied victory in the First World War.

Poland fought long and hard to get there. Fact. Nobody handed anything to Poland.
Being partitioned between three world powers made it all a tad more difficult than being backyard of only one empire and a quite benevolent one at lest in comparison.

Yet, it took you like 800 years to get your act together and independence-, not that you won the war in 1922 but London calculated that a war of subjugation would be to costly and pointless. If you had some ore or oil I think you would still be a part of the British state.

Your greatest achievement is in preserving your identity and a separate culture (you ought to thank The RCC) and a strong will to get an independent country of your own. Kudos to you but don't compare oranges to apples.

If you had a pleasure with Russia it would settle most of you in Siberia and replace them with imports from Russia. Bye bye Molly Malone and hallo Tatiana.
Harry
18 Jul 2017 #134
Judging from what he's just come out with in the Parliament, First Secretary Kaczynski may be tired and emotional right now.
jon357 74 | 21,760
18 Jul 2017 #135
It's a shocker, isn't it. And this is the minor back bench politician who describes himself as leader of the country.

He is likely to get far worse over the next few days and weeks.

He not only is a wreck of an individual, he looks like one too
Harry
18 Jul 2017 #136
He is likely to get far worse over the next few days and weeks.

And he's just signaled to the opposition exactly what to talk about in front of him.

Very telling that First Secretary Kaczynski took the podium solely because he wanted to and the speaker didn't have a word to say about that or his disgraceful rant.
jon357 74 | 21,760
18 Jul 2017 #137
It's obvious the pressure has got to him. He's known for a long time that his project is unsustainable, that his behavior is unstable, that his health is declining and that his advisors are deranged fools.

Not many places he can go from here
cms 9 | 1,255
19 Jul 2017 #138
How could so many paid thugs make it on to the street at one days notice ? There would not even be time for the bank transfer.

Hilarious watching Kaczynski this morning - he should not stay up so late, it's bad for his health
mafketis 36 | 10,682
19 Jul 2017 #139
Hilarious watching Kaczynski this morning

If by Hilarious you mean 'terrifying to think that this mentally deranged dwarf is the most powerful political figure in the country' then yes, a barrel of laughs.

Would this stand as a form of libel (since he accused the opposition of 'murdering' his brother)?

I don't think he's ever actually used those words before (close but always maintained plausible deniability) I really think he'll regret opening up that particular can of worms.
cms 9 | 1,255
19 Jul 2017 #140
Well it's difficult enough to prove libel even if the libeller is not the judges boss !

It just shows how ridiculous he is - many opposition MPS were not even elected in 2010 when a series of human errors and poor preparation by the Presidents staff caused the plane crash.
Harry
19 Jul 2017 #141
How could so many paid thugs make it on to the street at one days notice ?

Did you hear Radio Maybach reporting that all three of the people who gathered outside the President's palace last night were paid thugs?

I really think he'll regret opening up that particular can of worms.

He certainly is. And he's also shown the world which button to press, so it's now going to be a constant barrage of comments such as 'Your brother fought against people like you, that's why the commies locked him up and left you to sleep in'. It's going to be brilliant.

It just shows how ridiculous he is

All that time people were expecting him to turn into Sauron but in reality all he could manage was evil Bilbo Baggins.
gumishu 13 | 6,133
19 Jul 2017 #142
poor preparation by the Presidents staff caused the plane crash.

BOR was not and is not under the command of the president but the prime minister
jon357 74 | 21,760
19 Jul 2017 #143
The staff of the so-called president are responsible for his safety, and ultimately the person himself decided to make the journey.

Bizarre that JK is literally screaming murder when people call him out on his dodgy judicial reforms.
gregy741 5 | 1,232
19 Jul 2017 #144
this mentally deranged dwarf is the most powerful political figure in the country' then yes, a barrel of laughs.

cant blame him...hes has to deal with this KOD ,nowoczesna and PO scum on daily basis...if i were there ,i would probably come with baseball bat and deal with this nowoczesna and PO scum in different manner..remember what language palikot use to talk about him and hes dead bro ?kudos for this man for so much patience
OP Polonius3 994 | 12,367
30 Jul 2017 #145
Merged:

49 of the 93 Supreme court judges swore oath to Soviet-backed PRL



On one of the Sunday poltical disucssion shows (30 July 2017) Senator Jan Maria Jackowski said when he asked Suprme Court head Gersdorf how many SC judges trace their roots to communist Poland, she said 49. That is more than half fo the 93 judges. Those judges swore their oath of allegaince to PRL (communisti Poland, defence of socialism and "our Warsaw Pact alliances" (a euphemism for Soviet domination). They have neversworn a new oath of allegiance to III RP.
mafketis 36 | 10,682
30 Jul 2017 #146
Those judges swore their oath of allegaince to PRL (communisti Poland, defence of socialism and "our Warsaw Pact alliances"

So? So did Jarosław Kaczyński. There's no way he could have studied anything in the PRL (the only place he studied) without making such an oath.
jon357 74 | 21,760
30 Jul 2017 #147
There's no way he could have studied anything in the PRL (the only place he studied) without making such an oath.

Yes, and in fact he studied Marxist-Leninist theory.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
30 Jul 2017 #148
Top grades, as well. I know a couple of dissidents from back then, and they did exactly enough to pass and no more. Hard to imagine what kind of person would willingly obtain top grades in such studies.
mafketis 36 | 10,682
30 Jul 2017 #149
Hard to imagine what kind of person would willingly obtain top grades in such studies.

The type that would think that allowing prosecutors to appoint their own judges is a good idea....
OP Polonius3 994 | 12,367
30 Jul 2017 #150
he studied Marxist-Leninist theory.

Know thy enemy!

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