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Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed


Cojestdocholery 2 | 1,191
28 Jan 2022 #391
Yes, it does

No it doesn't!

Yes, experienced and wise

Pull out your styriopan fossil. Wise? lol!
pawian 223 | 24,389
28 Jan 2022 #392
No it doesn't!

You shouldn`t argue with a a sage who could be your father and when considering mental differences, grandfather. :):):) Don`t be like a cheeky rebellious student who rejects all authorities and his only role models are pathostreamers on youtube or tiktok. hahaha
Cojestdocholery 2 | 1,191
29 Jan 2022 #393
all authorities

Refering to authorities in argument is a logical fallacy.
pawian 223 | 24,389
29 Jan 2022 #394
logical

I find it so fascinating that you are mentioning logic. After all, you are getting some good education here, aren`t you? " :)
Cojestdocholery 2 | 1,191
29 Jan 2022 #395
I find it so fascinating that you are mentioning logic.

Dobrze, rozumiesz pojedyncze wyrazy a teraz następny krok połącz je razem w całość. To jest droga do czytania ze zrozumieniem.
pawian 223 | 24,389
29 Jan 2022 #396
Dobrze

Czyli cały czas lejesz wodę i pokazujesz jak jesteś odmóżdżony (ta woda to z twojej czaszki) :):)
Jeszcze się nie odniosłeś do aresztowania Froga i perspektywy odbycia wyroku 1.5 roku więzienia. :):) Czyżbyś wolał to przemilczeć jako niewygodny przykład uczciwości sędziowskiej??? :):)
pawian 223 | 24,389
14 Dec 2022 #397
Hoping to receive multi billion funds from the EU, PiS rulers are going to cancel their pseudo reforms which spoiled the judiciary system in Poland and allowed rightists to prosecute independent judges when they didn`t follow PiS party line and dared to initiate legal proceedings against PiS members who broke the law.

In order to opress independent judges, PiS nominated its own "judges" - sort of enforcers. Now one of them, Piotr Schab, is going to have legal problems coz his recent career advancement under PiS is seriously questioned:

onet.pl/informacje/onetwiadomosci/wazna-decyzja-sadu-najwyzszego-wyrok-wydany-przez-czlowieka-ziobry-uchylony/ddq8qk0,79cfc278

Three legal, "old" judges of the Criminal Chamber of the Supreme Court decided on Wednesday that the sentence issued in 2020 in the Warsaw Court of Appeal by, among others, the current president of this court, Piotr Schab - who has been the central judge's spokesman for discipline since 2018 - and by his subordinate in the office of the spokesman, Beata Łabuda, will be overruled, and the case will be re-examined in the Warsaw appeal.

Agnieszka Prętczyńska, attorney-at-law, applied for such a solution in the summer of 2022 . It was she who applied for an independence test for Schab. In the application addressed to the Supreme Court, she indicated that Schab should never judge anyone. - Mr. Schab is a pending, biased and politically dependent judge. This is what I wrote in the application for an impartiality test against him, and I uphold this opinion, attorney Prętczyńska told us in August 2022.

- He did not comply with the final judgment regarding the admission of Judge Igor Tuleya to adjudicate, which broke the law. He was promoted thanks to the politically appointed National Council of the Judiciary, and besides, he was elected a judge of the Warsaw Court of Appeal without the required opinion of the General Assembly of the appeal, she mentioned.

All of this, coupled with his hasty appointment to the panel hearing my clients' case, begs the question - is he an independent judge? Prętczyńska asked.

- The Supreme Court has clearly indicated that no test of independence is needed here. And this is because Mr. Schab's career path and his promotions raise serious doubts about his independence almost every month , the lawyer points out. - The Supreme Court therefore relied on the conclusions of the defense in this case that the panel that tried the case in the Warsaw SA in 2020 was incorrectly staffed, which is an absolute prerequisite for appeal, says Prętczyńska.


My comment:
PiS tried to recreate the communist style in the judiciary system but they failed miserably!! HA!

My God, I am so proud of all this majority of judges and other people of law who retained their decency and didn`t allow PiS to intimidate them into subjugation.

At the same time I spit on those few scum who decided to advance their careers not through hard work or merits but through dirty connections with PiS ritards. Tfu!!!
pawian 223 | 24,389
16 Dec 2022 #398
Breaking news!!!

Can you imagine that PiS has cancelled the crude draft of the law cancelling their failed judiciary deforms?? Because they didn`t consult the President about it. He threatened his PiS buddies with vetoing the new law.

AmaSSing! Those PiS ritards are obsessively lying not only to their voters or opponents, they primarily lie to each other. The guys who were preparing the draft claimed the President knew what they were doing.

hahahaha

buhahahaha

Just another example to help you realise those Polish ritards are obsessive liars and losers.



Korvinus 2 | 479
19 Dec 2022 #399
failed judiciary deforms

You mean in Poland?
Because in USA president just nominates whomever he wants.
Brandon nominated that nigress Ketanji because it was his presidential promise, and got her installed.

This is how it's done in America. You just follow best example, couldn't be so bad?
pawian 223 | 24,389
19 Dec 2022 #400
You mean in Poland?

Yes, but I can`t comment further on coz I promised to be nice at Christmas time - commenting on those failed reforms would require me to use too strong words. :):):)
amiga500 4 | 1,540
19 Dec 2022 #401
I promised to be nice at Christmas time

How about being nice all the time? that's a new left academic slogan given to students when debating. "be nice"
pawian 223 | 24,389
19 Dec 2022 #402
that's a new left academic slogan

Left? So it is not for me coz I am centre. Has always been. Ha!
pawian 223 | 24,389
3 Jan 2023 #405
It is strictly amasing how PiS politicians lie not only to their voters and non-voters but to each other as well. They are obsessive liars - nobody has lied as much as them so far. Probably only communists did but that was over 30 years ago.

PIS is negotiating a new deal concerning the independence of the judiciary in order to receive the withheld funds from the EU. The President has already objected to not being consulted by his PiS buddies on the matter.

PiS Minister Buda writes on Twitter:

Today I know that the talks that are being held with the president after this statement placate him siginficantly. I do not suspect that there are any problems at the president's level with accepting the solutions that are being negotiated with the EU.

While the President reacts on Twitter:
I do not know from who Mr. Min. Buda obtains such information, but it is false and his statement is far from true.

Aren`t those PiS clowns funny???
pawian 223 | 24,389
29 Oct 2023 #406
The final summarising commentary:

PIS was trying to suppress independent judges and take over the whole judiciary for themselves so that they could steal, get corrupted and cause accidents without any legal consequences. They nominated their own renegade judges and members of legal institutions, sometimes breaking the Constitution and Polish law.

It proved useless in the end.

The vast majority of Polish judiciary resisted gallantly, with the help of the EU which defended the rule of law in Poland. PIS lost the elections. The new gov is going to introduce necessary changes soon.

After a storm there is the sun. ALWAYS. All pessimists, remember about it.
Miloslaw 19 | 4,925
29 Oct 2023 #407
with the help of the EU

The EU NEVER help Poland.
NEVER forget that........The EU is all about a "United States of Europe", which will never happen!!
And France and Germany will never invite Poland to the top table......
mafketis 37 | 10,894
30 Oct 2023 #408
The EU NEVER help Poland.

Give it up. You're out and what goes on between Poland and the EU is no longer any business of yours (unless you have Polish citizenship).
Alien 20 | 4,978
30 Oct 2023 #409
The EU NEVER help Poland

🥱
pawian 223 | 24,389
30 Oct 2023 #410
The EU is all about a "United States of Europe", which will never happen!!

You got it all wrong - United States of Europe don`t exclude help.
Actually, the EU helped decent Poles get rid of rightists. Let`s say our prayers for it.
pawian 223 | 24,389
6 Dec 2023 #411
PIS was trying to suppress independent judges and take over the whole judiciary for themselves so that they could steal, get corrupted and cause accidents without any legal consequences.

Also, lethal accidents. Read this story about a certain PiS man who killed a woman on the road and nothing happened. Even better, he was promoted.

That is corrupt Poland that PiS gangsters were trying to turn us into. No more, you fekking bolsheviks!!!

onet.pl/informacje/okopress/czlowiek-ziobry-smiertelnie-potracil-kobiete-na-pasach-od-4-lat-nie-uslyszal-zarzutow/hp5y7ws,30bc1058

Ziobro's man fatally knocked down a woman on a crosswalk. He hasn't heard any charges for 4 years

Artur Dziadosz, former deputy head of the Prison Service, fatally hit a woman on a crossing four years ago. To this day, he has not been charged, although a year ago the case was supposed to be "at its final stage". Now Dziadosz, appointed by Zbigniew Ziobro, heads a powerful state-owned company.

This text may sound familiar because we wrote about this case exactly a year ago. Let us recall: in 2019, Artur Dziadosz, then deputy head of the Prison Service, hit a 69-year-old woman on a zebra crossing, who died in hospital as a result of her injuries.

The accident case was conducted for a surprisingly long time. Even though investigators had surveillance footage, testimonies of 8 witnesses and 3 expert opinions, they were unable to bring charges against Dziadosz for three years, and the case was passed around between prosecutors' offices like a hot potato.

In December 2022, the spokeswoman of the prosecutor's office assured us that Dziadosz's case "is at its final stage". Now, a year later, it turns out that he is still gambling, and Dziadosz has still not been charged.

Meanwhile, Dziadosz retired shortly after the accident, and immediately afterwards - on the nomination of Zbigniew Ziobro - he became the head of a powerful state-owned company. Both at the time of the accident and in the following years, Dziadosz held high positions in institutions subordinated to the former Minister of Justice and the head of Sovereign Poland, which ruled Poland together with PiS in 2015-2023. Ziobro, as prosecutor general, also supervised the activities of the prosecutor's office.

In 2023, as if nothing had happened, Dziadosz showed off in the company of Sovereign Poland politicians during various events related to the prison system.

The accident occurred at the beginning of November 2019 on one of the main streets of Kozienice, with a population of 17,000. The city is located on the route for drivers traveling from Rzeszów to Warsaw. Artur Dziadosz was crossing this road when a 69-year-old woman appeared on the pedestrian crossing.

According to our information, the course of the accident was as follows. The woman stopped in front of the stripes, she was wearing dark clothes, but the backpack had reflective elements. First, she let passing cars pass, but finally decided to enter the crossing. Then it was hit by a Mazda driven by Artur Dziadosz.

The woman was conscious, although in shock. She was taken away by an ambulance. A few days later, as a result of internal injuries, she died in hospital.

Investigators very quickly collected key evidence: CCTV footage from a nearby gas station, a quick autopsy, then traces from the victim's clothing, interviewing eight witnesses and securing the driver's phone billings. They also had three expert opinions.

An interesting thing: according to the information of "Dziennik Gazeta Prawna", the analysis of Artur Dziadosz's phone billings indicated that "at the time of the incident, an Internet data transmission was running on the driver's phone." What does it mean? Dziadosz could then listen to music, use car navigation or browse social media. To be sure what he was doing, the prosecutor's office decided to examine the official's phone.

It failed - during the search, Dziadosz explained that he had lost his phone while on vacation at the lake.

Instead of coming to an end, the meticulously conducted investigation was suddenly postponed. First, from the District Prosecutor's Office in Kozienice to the District Prosecutor's Office in Radom, then to the District Prosecutor's Office in Lublin. It got stuck there for good.

As we found out a year ago, the experts' opinions were similar, but they shared the blame for the accident equally. The woman was about to suddenly enter a pedestrian crossing.

Despite the convergent opinions and complete evidence, prosecutor Andrzej Wójcik, who is conducting the investigation, said in a conversation with us a year ago that "the evidence so far did not provide grounds for bringing charges", and the prosecutor's office was to order another - already fourth - expert opinion.

- In my opinion, the prosecutor's office is trying to discontinue the case and whitewash the perpetrator of the accident - ​​the daughter of a woman who died as a result of an accident told us a year ago.

After our publication, the then deputy minister of justice, Marcin Wójcik, explained the case. On Radio ZET, he talked about Dziadosz's "personal drama" and the media's attack on him. He argued that the accident occurred "during the rainy season."

jon357 74 | 22,054
7 Dec 2023 #412
killed a woman on the road and nothing happened

The more things like this continue to happen, the more Poland will still be associated with corruption.
pawian 223 | 24,389
9 Dec 2023 #413
he more Poland will still be associated

We can thank those PiS rightard bolsheviks for spoiling the standards instead of improving them.

Thank you, PiS bolsheviks!!!
pawian 223 | 24,389
6 Jan 2024 #414
PIS was trying to suppress independent judges and take over the whole judiciary for themselves so that they could steal, get corrupted and cause accidents without any legal consequences.

Here is a short story of financial frauds and scams in certain credit union called SKOK closely connected with PiS. The first charges appeared in 2016 but after PiS had come into power in 2015, PIS prosecutors delayed the case as long as possible. It

An indictment has just been brought to court against 32 people associated with SKOK Wesoła in Mysłowice: former heads of the management board of the union, members of the supervisory board, important employees and members of their families.

The Katowice prosecutor's office accused them, among others, of: for mismanagement, misappropriation of property, accepting financial benefits, certifying untruths in documents, forging documents - enumerated on the website of prosecutor Małgorzata Zawada-Dybek, spokeswoman for PO in Katowice. The notary who certified the financial scams is also expected to appear in court. The damage resulting from the allegations was calculated at PLN 282 million.

Spółdzielcza Kasa Oszczednościowo-Kredytowa Wesoła was established in 1993 with its headquarters in Mysłowice and connections with the Mysłowice-Wesoła mine. It had branches in 12 voivodeships and 64,000. members - customers who paid PLN 650 million. Wesoła, like all credit unions, belonged to the National Fund, headed by Grzegorz Biernacki, later a PiS senator and an important person in Kaczyński's party.

In 2007, after PiS lost the elections, many prominent party officials found shelter in SKOKs. When they returned to power , they spread a protective umbrella over SKOKs and repaid their benefactors as much as possible.

From the very beginning, Wesoła fell into the hands of its own people - primarily activists of the mining Solidarity movement and their families. Loans were granted to people without creditworthiness for bribes. The prosecutor's office found that members of the supervisory board signed contracts with their wives, children and aunts for fictitious services, which were completely unnecessary. Children (allegedly) handed out advertising leaflets, wives (allegedly) praised Wesoła during social gatherings... and everyone took money for it.

It is therefore hardly surprising that in 2013, SKOK Wesoła recorded a loss of over PLN 160 million and was on the verge of bankruptcy. The Polish Financial Supervision Authority stepped in, and two years later a receiver was appointed, who dismissed all members of the management board and some of the management staff on disciplinary grounds.

The case was brought to the prosecutor's office and dragged on for eight years. Since 2016 - I found out at PO in Katowice - excessive involvement in the investigation against Wesoła was frowned upon by its superiors. If it weren't for the change of government, it would probably drag on forever... Towards the statute of limitations.

pawian 223 | 24,389
27 Jan 2024 #415
PIS was trying to suppress independent judges and take over the whole judiciary for themselves so that they could steal, get corrupted and cause accidents without any legal consequences.

It has just been disclosed that certain PiS-controlled prosecutor has been hiding inconvenient court files in the garage. Can you believe it???

How many cases like that will be revealed before we are able to say that the PIS swamp has been cleaned to the bone?????

Judge Beata Morawiec commented on the case of court files from the prosecutor's office in Lublin, which were to be kept in the garage, on Saturday on TVN24. - We were all very surprised when such a collection of documents was revealed in such an interesting place - she said. She added that "the action of concealing certain aspects of the activities undertaken by the prosecutor's office and possibly depriving other people who could deal with these matters of access to these files is torpedoing investigations."

The acting national prosecutor, Jacek Bilewicz, asked the regional prosecutor in Lublin, Jerzy Ziarkiewicz, to clarify the matter of storing files. Ziarkiewicz allegedly blocked cases involving PiS politicians for years and kept files of inconvenient cases in the garage. The case was described by "Gazeta Wyborcza". Everything came to light when a driver from the prosecutor's office complained that he had nowhere to park his car because the garage was full of files. Ziarkiewicz is a trusted person of the former Minister of Justice Zbigniew Ziobro .

[i]Judge Beata Morawiec said it was "surprising". - I think we were all very surprised when such a collection of documents was revealed in such an interesting place. I don't want to talk about how they were secured. The loss of one document from the file by the person responsible for it constitutes disciplinary proceedings at least. So I wonder how, why and why, in such quantity, the gentleman who had access to the files decided to store these documents in such conditions, exposing them to destruction - said the judge.

She emphasized that "a person who has documents as important as the files of preparatory proceedings is obliged to take care of these documents."

pawian 223 | 24,389
13 Mar 2024 #416
PIS was trying to suppress independent judges and take over the whole judiciary for themselves so that they could steal, get corrupted and cause accidents without any legal consequences.

Not only accidents. Also naked walks in city centres.

Prosecutor General Adam Bodnar filed an appeal against the decision of the deputy disciplinary attorney to discontinue the proceedings conducted against the prosecutor of the District Prosecutor's Office in Świdnica, Maciej W., who walked naked around one of the housing estates in 2021. The man was reinstated to his official duties, but the prosecutor general wants the case to be reconsidered in disciplinary proceedings.

This excerpt means that PiS tried to sweep the matter under the carpet coz the streaking performer had been nominated by PiS earlier on but after the change of power, the new prosecutors are going to look into the matter again. Good!



Alien 20 | 4,978
13 Mar 2024 #417
naked walks

Maybe it was a shop on a nude beach.
pawian 223 | 24,389
14 Mar 2024 #418
a shop on a nude beach.

In the centre of an industrial town????? :):):)

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