Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed

roundly rejected by a single person - you probably don't read too many sources on the internet

You have a PRL mindset...

On a contrary. I've got clear goals to achieve yet I'm flexible with using various types of tools to achieve them.

Instead of waiting for "an ideal" circumstances one should work with what he's got here and now since not a pure abstract idea itself but a completion of that idea is what matters.

aka the ends justify the means.... aka prl, gratulacje towarzyszu witamy w partii!

@mafketis
I'm glad that you find calling someone "a communist" an insult. We're on the same page here :-)


Not all means and not all ends. You may understand that one day.

OK, let`s wait and see what they will do. :)


Hahaha that is a clever twist. :)

My comment: Oops, from the frying pan into the fire. :)


Nationalist, not free and democratic Poland.


That`s pure Machiavelism. :)

Thank you

That scum versus another scum theory might be useful for today`s opposition one day. E..g, they might use some PiS scum who decides to save their skin against another PiS scum who vow to remain renegades and political gangsters till the end. You know, I mean świadek koronny - turn state`s evidence.

@pawian

The thing is that so called "total opposition" PO-PSL+postcommies doesn't have any intelectual or mental capacity to take back the power.

They don't have any solid plans on how to rule the country nor elites who would carry it out and create ideas which would benefit the nation. They don't offer any constructive solutions for Poland and their only political "plan" is to remove PiS from power at all cost (including snitching to Brussels)...

All they can do it to re-act (poorly...) to new political situations generated by PiS.

The only constructive opposition to PiS is Konfederacja. 11 MEPs from Konfederacja introduce more quality to the parliament and makes more political difference that the whole "total opposition" combined.

It's thanks to them the whole "447" scandal has reached public opinion in Poland, which also pushed Kaczynski to make a public delaration about it. The same with a scandal of sexual indoctrination of children in schools by LGBT movement.

It was also Konfederacja who has forced PiS to remove post-commie SLD mep from the parliamentary commission about social politics and family.

Yes, I agree, they are too decent to fight political gangsters with their own weapons. But that`s what should be done - prać pisiorów po ryjach and look if they swell well. But the opposition is too delicate with PiS. hahaha


Yes, exactly. Only political gangsters can successfully combat other political gangsters - they know all the tricks, strengths and weaknesses of their opponents. :)

there is no point in discussing politics with pawian, Spike

Of course there is. At least we can have fun!

sure a dangle dance would be most suitable for you.

Wow, I had no idea you crave for such pervy fun! hahaha

Sorry, I won`t do it for you. You have to find it online.

You mean it appealed to the 5-10% of voters who are obsessed with Jews but who are incapable of reading laws.

Probably because many are worried about suspected (or known) Jewish ancestry themselves...

Are you not the one obsessed with Jews. You talk about them oft enough?


Was it you the one talking about Jewish racial characteristics of some people clearly visible in Poland. You must have some connection to the Nazis give your German ancestry.

geez ... you are like gossiping washerwomen making up rumors and stuff. phew!

Sorry about that, but I couldn't resist. 'Scum' is an uncountable noun, but you use it as a countable one all the time. Plus, when you incorrectly used it in plural, you preceded it with the 'a' article.

Or maybe I miss something on English grammar?


This is no wonder. He has been outside Poland for so many years ...

And how many years that would be? :-)

A little blow to rightards who tried to deform the judiciary system. The CJEU has just ruled that the Disciplinary Chamber of the Polish Supreme Court has to suspend all its activity coz it is illegal in view of the European Union law.

Nice. Thank you, EU.


You don`t need to discuss anything with pawian if you don`t want to. Instead, pawian will discuss topics with you. Isn`t it more interesting?? hahaha

To be efficient, the CJEU copied a 1960 memo Moscow sent to the Polish collaborators.

Big deal. They can't enforce jack **** so it's pointless. It won't change a thing. Just like when the EU threatened sanctions, article 7, etc. etc. for things like refusing to take in migrants in 2015, not allowing gay marraige, PiS control of judiciary, etc. And what did PiS do? They gave the EU the middle finger, telling them to come enforce their "decisions" and "rulings," then kept going on with business as usual.

Yes, they keep on robbing and sucking Poland of its assets, that is why they need their own corrupt judiciary which will close an eye to PiS crimes.

But, if they don`t apply the EU law now, Poland will have to pay fines. One day, all those PiS rightards who have led to such a situation will be prosecuted coz there are appropriate articles in the penal code. I can`t wait. :):):)

euronews.com/2021/07/13/poland-s-constitutional-court-to-rule-on-whether-eu-law-takes-priority

Simply put, Constitutional Tribunal of Poland has ruled that Polish Constitution stands above EU beaurocracy.
Furthermore, the EU can only use those powers that were directly ceaded to them by Poland and cannot usurp some extra powers.

Polish law trumps EU law de facto each and every time. A law, fine, etc. means nothing when it can't be enforced. Just look at the whole bogus article 7 procedures or when they tried to strip Poland of EU funds because we didn't want a flood of third worlders or even the situation in Crimea. Yeah, on the books de jure Crimea belongs to Ukraine, de facto and in reality in belongs to Russia.

The EU is all bark and no bite. PiS realized that a long time ago and that's why they can keep doing what they're doing, all while remaining the most popular party in Poland.


Sure, even if that happens big deal a few million in fines for the EU to give Poland billions in funding. A good trade imo. As the saying goes, gotta spend money to make money...

Apart from fnes, they can also withhold funds for Poland.


And we shall see the results of such an approach. :)


Yes, but their popularity is going down.

The Tribunal is also illegal and you know about it. In free Poland all its rulings will be annuled,. Simple. So, can I ask you not to waste our time with certain illegal body`s activities?

This way or another, the result will be the same - the EU blocks major funds for Poland.
Do you really want it?

How else can he justify a return to Moscow's sweet embrace?

i like moscow.

Life does not have to be so binary.