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I saw Polish nationalism today


jonni 16 | 2,485
1 Dec 2010 #181
No not every (or any) patriot, The people who get "called a nazi or fascist" are the twats who march around in jackboots. Patriots are keen that their country be the best and nicest place it can be, and love it too much to shout hate-filled slogans in the main streets of the capital.
trener zolwia 1 | 939
1 Dec 2010 #182
Its funny that nowadays every patriot gets called a nazi or a fascist... It's like you're not allowed to love your country

We get a lot of this over here. We call them the "Hate America First" crowd, of which our current president is a member. Feelings of guilt cause people to say and do all kinda silly stuff. These self-hating Leftists are nuts. It'd be one thing if they kept their idiocy to themselves but for some reason such people are determined to spread their misery and hatred to others as they seek to influence policy.
1jola 14 | 1,879
1 Dec 2010 #183
Its funny that nowadays every patriot gets called a nazi or a fascist... It's like you're not allowed to love your country

It is in the best Marxist tradition. These lost people are now Europeans but wait till Euro 2012 and they will be screeming for their former nation. Anti-fascists?! What a joke.
jonni 16 | 2,485
1 Dec 2010 #184
Anti-fascists?! What a joke.

So are you a pro-fascist?
CRACOVIA1906 - | 25
1 Dec 2010 #185
Patriots are keen that their country be the best and nicest place it can be, and love it too much to shout hate-filled slogans in the main streets of the capital.

Yes what about the people who marched on Marsz Niepodleglosci. Are they nazis for you ? Nazis who carry Polish flags... ye that makes sense... I think the real fascists are the Antifa and GW
jonni 16 | 2,485
1 Dec 2010 #186
Nazis who carry Polish flags... ye that makes sense

No it makes no sense at all. Polish neo-nazis, Israeli ones - stupid, as fascism always is. But they still exist.
CRACOVIA1906 - | 25
1 Dec 2010 #187
Still excist - yes But GW are trying to make it look like 50% of the country are Nazis when its maybe 1000-2000 people in Poland who are nazis
Harry
1 Dec 2010 #188
Anti-fascists?! What a joke.

Nearly much of a joke as people who renounce all allegiance to their country, betray that country by volunteering to murder people who actually are loyal to that country and then claim to be patriots!
jonni 16 | 2,485
1 Dec 2010 #189
But GW are trying to make it look like 50% of the country are Nazis

No they aren't. They published attendance figures, and various op-ed pieces. And as you (and GW) know, most of the country is either Left or Centrist. At least at election time.
CRACOVIA1906 - | 25
1 Dec 2010 #190
No they aren't. They published attendance figures, and various op-ed pieces.

Ok I was wrong. GW are making 99% of patriots to look like nazis, facists, homophobes, antisemistis and whatever the **** there is
trener zolwia 1 | 939
1 Dec 2010 #191
So are you a pro-fascist?

Dishonest argument. Pointing out how the Left recklessly tosses around the label "fascist" these days hardly makes one pro-fascism.

The only real fascism today is the oppressive Liberal fascism.
jonni 16 | 2,485
1 Dec 2010 #192
Llib

There seems to be a fly buzzing around. Maybe someone could swat it; I can't really be bothered.

Ok I was wrong. GW are making 99% of patriots to look like nazis, facists, homophobes, antisemistis and whatever the **** there is

How?
trener zolwia 1 | 939
1 Dec 2010 #193
Llib

Distraction. Not about a word but rather about the guilty party. Just identifying them...
goofy_the_dog
16 May 2014 #195
Right... As the member of the far right (not the morrons and freaks of the NOP) i can say one thing about the ONR.. It has been accused of antisemitism before the war... The benches ghetto.

However this is one side of the story, ONR members joined up into the Polish resistence as the first WiN, Zwiazek Jaszczurczy, majority of the Kedyw and the NSZ were people of the ONR and other far right organisations from the Dmowskis tradition.

Its not all true about antisemitism either, the leader of the prewar ONR were sent to Aushwitz for helping Jews...
Crow 146 | 9,153
14 Nov 2017 #196
Polish nationalism is on the rise since Poles became aware what happened to Serbians. Later when general Krstic was transferred to Poland, after being attacked by Muslims in British prison, nationalism there got wings. Now when general Ratko Mladic arrive, things would even accelerate. Poles are wise.
Sylvio 18 | 138
20 Dec 2018 #197
youtu.be/QlNAecgJbro ....is reason enough for Polish nationalism...
Strzelec35 20 | 1,201
24 Feb 2021 #198
Merged:

Poland and nationalism



Why do you guys think is the reason for all these nationalists to exist in Poland and all those white power tune circles confederate flags etc everywhere? Ukrainians being killed like the Russian media says I believe it's true same with Jews Arabs etc when they get a chance.
jon357 67 | 16,843
24 Feb 2021 #199
the reason for all these nationalists

Poor educational levels, a poor degree of engagement with society and a heavy dose of paranoia.
mafketis 24 | 9,174
24 Feb 2021 #200
Why do you guys think is the reason for all these nationalists to exist in Poland

Lots of different motivations, dependent on the particular individuals...

For some, nothing on offer from the mainstream is really attainable...

For some, nothing on offer from the mainstream is very appealing...

Some have sublimated aggression (abusive parents usually) and just want to hurt someone and nationalism gives them the tools for that...
Strzelec35 20 | 1,201
24 Feb 2021 #201
lol I dont understand why they hate the Ukrainian nationalists one for this (‪ twitter.com/ksokolowska123/status/1364092791358435328?s=21) when they were doing the same **** or acting in similar ways to the Jews or ruthenians? and they are so focused on what happened 70 yrs ago?

‪miasto-info.pl/myslenice/marsz-onr-przez-myslenice‬

thats all they do is live in the past and basically took over twitter or all polish twitter where its just their own victimhood and talking about how hurt they always were while ignoring what they did to Jews.
mafketis 24 | 9,174
24 Feb 2021 #202
they are so focused on what happened 70 yrs ago?

welcome to central and eastern europe where the past is never forgotten or forgiven...
Strzelec35 20 | 1,201
24 Feb 2021 #203
there is no such thing as central Europe its only civilization vs barbarians or east vs west iron curtain and first world something they'll never be or achieve with their dick minds. but whats funny is its always these lonely females polish females usually not very attractive spamming twitter with that vile weird ****. i mean who wants to see that and its always someone that did something to them never what they did to anyone else as a nation lol. but how are they even allowed to spam twitter like this does twitter only lean left and ban people when it comes to English or USA users and anyone that insults USA minorities like blacks? but leaves other countries alone or something? just because it is a us company or what? how are they allowed to just spam like that with those file images of their victimhood? also who has time to all day be throwing right wing victimhood propaganda about their country on twitter all day?
Miloslaw 8 | 2,893
24 Feb 2021 #204
@Strzelec35
You sound like a leftie druggie to me......
jon357 67 | 16,843
24 Feb 2021 #205
hrowing right wing victimhood propaganda

It's what it is, relentless propaganda, and feeding on neuroses. Fascism needs a sense of victimhood, and invisible enemy. There's actually neurological reasons for it.
Strzelec35 20 | 1,201
24 Feb 2021 #206
Lol at hopw ignorant and stupid they are:
twitter.com/smajabba/status/1363072268474195969?s=20

Right there and then they name their enemies in one tweet. It is funny how everyone against them in any way is their enemy but its ok to kill the Jews or put white power symbols on their walls and act the way they do. They dont even know English I bet but get mad if someone speaks another language near them like Poland matters or anyone cares about Poland. Even Biden Im sure doesn't care about it nor do their so called friends Americans respect them in any way. Who respects them actually outside their backward third world country?

and the ones not like that are just as bad because they ignore it or pretend there is nothing wrong with their country or this doesn't exist there around them. Like a paulina on here or those chicks on twitter who work at gaming sites or try to be popular online etc. they just talk to their own little peer groups and pretend their country isnt rucked up and when i mention to them how it was strange when another polish guy asked me or on two occasions where in the USA they can go where blacks arent around she acted like i lied or its not true or just put their heads in the sand like paulina does on here about her on country.

I am thinking of taking pictures of all the white power signs outside of Warsaw because with Warsaw they usually cross them out but in places like Lodz they stay and all the other **** and just putting it up for the world to see. what do you guys think Americans or western Europeans will think of Poland then?
Novichok 1 | 2,191
25 Feb 2021 #207
Fascism needs a sense of victimhood, and invisible enemy.

And so does leftism. American leftism would collapse without victims. Divide and pit one group against another, another being the whites, is their tactic.
BTW, either you were in a hurry or your English is getting worse.
jon357 67 | 16,843
25 Feb 2021 #208
In your case, perhaps it needs stating.
Strzelec35 20 | 1,201
25 Feb 2021 #209
what I dont get is why they are so focused on their language and think its so important yet refuse to learn German properly and hate being criticised for their accents when they go to Germany for work? Do these people on twitter never leave Poland and have always been there never even seeking jobs in other countries like everyone else did in the 90s from here and early 2000s or something. They act so oblivious to the ay their own countrymen act abroad criticising others like economic migrants in their country or simply being picky about minor pointless things like someone not speaking native level Polish that really is impossible to unless your raised here. whats their deal or true agenda?

A lot of them probably do not even speak perfect or good Polish. like those people from Praga or at the one rallies and ****, but not witter this is what they use to shut any criticism of them or shut any argument they are ****** up down by looking for something trivial or unrelated like your language to criticise so they dont have to deal with the message by attacking the messenger so to speak. Even ir you wrote perfect Polish to them theyd act like they didnt understand you if you didnt use the same jargons. If that doesnt work theyd probably blame you for being a spy a foreigner etc. like the lames and garbage on this forum like that Ironside do to anyone with different views from their own. They also never try pushing those views to non Polish speakers or non Polish people abroad because they know deep down those views are garbage. Or simply foreigners like those who make netflix documentaries dont give a **** about Poland or who did what to them 100 yrs ago.

I think part of it is these ladies on twitter had family killed or something decades ago but they never met this family I mean these incidences are like over 70 yrs ago that is what doesn't make sense to me about their paranoia and focus or obsession.
Strzelec35 20 | 1,201
26 Feb 2021 #210
How are people like this even allowed on twitter? She even calls herself a nationalist and her obsession oh my her obsession with those marginalized people today she is trying to blame for **** that happened 70 yrs ago like those Jews blaming the Polish for stealing their lands and properties until this day they hate I dont get it guys:

twitter.com/KSokolowska123

Why would anyone especially a woman spend all day doing nationalist and hate **** like this? who has time for that?

And this is the country you people wanna be proud of or live in? Imagine if the next popular trend here is to remind ppl of Germans and hate them or Jews or even you Anglo Saxons and start doing klisternachts and breaking your windows and ****. Who would feel proud existing with such vermin of people or such a country?


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