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I saw Polish nationalism today


ender 5 | 398
13 Nov 2010 #151
I haven't seen any 'nazi' uniform in Warsaw but I have seen commies dressed in dirty pajamas.
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,476
13 Nov 2010 #152
Well yes, but let's not forget that they razed Carthage to the ground!

See...but when Germans do raze something into the ground it's a bad thing! No fair!!! *grumble*
Torq
13 Nov 2010 #153
Well, there weren't any Moloch worshippers in Europe when you started razing it.

Besides, you lack the Roman finesse ;)
ItsAllAboutME 3 | 270
13 Nov 2010 #154
ok, people, I want to know why the most popular threads here are the ones where people throw sh*t in each others faces, and the ones that ask for intelligent exchange of information die down quickly.

I mean, I pushed your buttons yesterday (sorry, but some of you were just asking for it) and I mangled some of you pretty badly (that means you, ShortD*ck; btw, about the last few pictures, did your mother know you took naughty pictures of her?), and I got a storm of responses. Today I'm being nice and stuff, and it's crickets...
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
13 Nov 2010 #155
if Harry is allowed to twist history facts I see no reason why I not supposed to use same methods there is even more true in my twisted facts then his

That should be the new definition of "Petty", Harry hasn't even remarked on this thread, has he? and yet you use him as an excuse to justify talking rubbish.

Today I'm being nice and stuff, and it's crickets...

I guess people have at least 24 Hr memories.
zetigrek
13 Nov 2010 #156
ItsAllAboutME

Note that Internet always was atrracting whole bunch of paranoic bigots and other freaks. If you read YouTube comments under Obama's footages you will see that many of them are racist (and they not from Poland;)

Earlier I was also taking too seriously Internet comments and look what it made me to think:
Why do Americans (and Canadians) hate Polish people?

What about that? That's the image derived from the Internet commends. It was my first thread here.

Of course I don;t deny that in Poland there is many racists, antisemites, homophobes but mostly it has nothing to do with any nationalistic attitudes. You have used wrong arguments to support your main thought. That's why many users felt that you want libel Poland by spreading untrue statements. It really sounded like you were another troll on this forum. But I also apologies for my fierce replies.
ender 5 | 398
13 Nov 2010 #157
you use him as an excuse to justify talking rubbish

Can I have good example of excuse to talk rubbish? Rubbish talking about rubbish is good enough?
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
13 Nov 2010 #158
Of course I don;t deny that in Poland there is many racists, antisemites, homophobes but mostly it has nothing to do with any nationalistic attitudes.

Just in case I appear to be accusing the general public of Poland who feel national pride, especially on their independence day, of doing anything mad, I want to explain that is not what I mean.

It was just the matter of the ONR and what I know of them from here and this bears no reflection on what most of the good people of Poland do.

I should have really written that earlier but I got side tracked.
zetigrek
13 Nov 2010 #159
It was just the matter of the ONR and what I know of them from here and this bears no reflection on what most of the good people of Poland do.

exactly. 100% agree.
enkidu 7 | 623
13 Nov 2010 #160
Just an remainder of one of the tolerant, open-minded, anti-racists, peace-loving persons' point of view:
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
13 Nov 2010 #161
And that was your post NOT hers.

Being a tolerant, open-minded, anti-racists, peace-loving person has nothing to do with hate, not even excepting it.
ender 5 | 398
14 Nov 2010 #162
Being a tolerant, open-minded, anti-racists, peace-loving person has nothing to do with hate, not even excepting it.

Fully agree and lets legalize polygamy. If group of adult wants to marriage no reason to stop them one man and lets say 7 hunky-'wifes' or one woman and 7 dwarfs diging her and each other or classical man and his harem. Why not? They adult they want it state should let them but none of other organization mustn't be forced to recognize or acknowledge such state 'marriage'.
zetigrek
14 Nov 2010 #163
ender

Ok so I'm very sorry for those things I have written earlier. I shouldn't pass any infos you have told me on private.
ender 5 | 398
14 Nov 2010 #164
zetigrek
Apology accepted.
Chicago Pollock 7 | 504
14 Nov 2010 #165
ok, people, I want to know why the most popular threads here are the ones where people throw sh*t in each others faces, and the ones that ask for intelligent exchange of information die down quickly.

And you wanna move to Poland? You'll never make it!
enkidu 7 | 623
14 Nov 2010 #166
And that was your post NOT hers.

A yeah - you are right!
I made a mistake, obviously. Probably because the only difference in these quotes are just a minor details.

For same reason - this is OK to propagate the idea of extermination of all the members of the ONR simply because of their silly haircuts.

Killing for no reason a skinhead - OK.
Killing for no reason a guy with the payots - Not OK

I got it now.
POLENGGGs 2 | 150
14 Nov 2010 #167
I have an idea, why don't you all tell these damned Nazis that Hitler is Bad - instead of turning PF into some revisionist crap discussion... anyway, thy shall find the skinhead here.
enkidu 7 | 623
14 Nov 2010 #168
Sadly - I did not found anything interesting on this website. And not a single mention of Hitler.
ender 5 | 398
14 Nov 2010 #169
Looks like no one posts any film from national manifestation yet.
I particularly like buttoning some commies :-)


gumishu 11 | 5,642
14 Nov 2010 #170
well, I haven't deliberately look for news about that day's developements - but two things reached to me as I was watching TV and later reading some stuff on the salon24.pl which is a political blogging site - the first things from the main TV news was that some 30 people (not 100 per cent sure) people were arrested on the spot or the next day thanks to filming the action, for assaultin police officers - and most of these were anarchists and other 'antifascist' including Robert Biedroń, one of the most active leaders of homsexual political movement (I have later heard from people on a chat that he claims to have been beaten by a policeman on the way to a police station)

the other story I have read about was the assault by some masked 'antifascists' armed with hammers and battons on a group of people travelling by train to attend one of the marches in Warsaw (there has been several from a spectrum of organizations) - as the article on salon24 claims there was a mention on the attack in some TV news but there was no mention of who made the attack and who was the target
Mr Grunwald 29 | 1,978
14 Nov 2010 #171
80 years ago Poland barely existed

right... Second RP is just a myth?

And not a single mention of Hitler.

Hmm I wonder why?! But their Nazi's right?! They must be some kind of non-Hitler gloryfying Nazi's! It all makes sense!!! Wooooh!!
(sarcasm was used during my commentery)

I have an idea, why don't you all tell these damned Nazis that Hitler is Bad

Bah good luck! I hope you teach them something ;p
Ironside 50 | 10,944
14 Nov 2010 #172
as far As I know it was staged provocation to made those nationalist look bad!
convex 20 | 3,978
14 Nov 2010 #173
Hmm I wonder why?! But their Nazi's right?! They must be some kind of non-Hitler gloryfying Nazi's! It all makes sense!!! Wooooh!!
(sarcasm was used during my commentery)

It does make sense. National socialism as a political ideology doesn't need Hitler.It's a simple mix, nationalism and socialism. Which is what these guys want. Proud on the nationalistic side, and take care of their fellow workers on the socialist side. That's Nazism in a nutshell.
Mr Grunwald 29 | 1,978
15 Nov 2010 #174
At that point yes, but I don't think they believe in an Utopian race that should take over the countr/Europe and rule the others + maybe exterminate them! All I have heard is that their anti-semites! ! ! A lot of bloody Nationalists have been that! Until one of those rat's @$$ say they do it for an Utopian race and etc then I won't belive their Nazi's! Their Nationalists for me! But if they indeed are Nazi's then their screwed lol
DariuszTelka 5 | 193
15 Nov 2010 #175
Ender, I found som links to the marches around in Poland. I read in article that they had slogans like: "There is no shame in being Polish", "Poland, big and independent" and "Patriots march again".

March from Warszawa:

youtube.com/watch?v=oih9rEVWyZk&feature=player_embedded

March from Wroclaw:

youtube.com/watch?v=I_xL4dKdlbs&feature=player_embedded

A guy not happy with the police. He complains about how they, the Poles can't even move freely around. I also read the the "left" side didn't have the right to demonstrate that day, but did so anyway. Some of the anti-fascists attacked people going to the march on a train with hammers and tear-gas.

youtube.com/watch?v=bB2Bzf3zpE4&feature=related

"The nationalist march commemorating Poland's Independence Day finished by the monument to 1930s nationalist leader Roman Dmowski".

thenews.pl/national/?id=143298

Is this really "nazi"? Or is it ultra-nationalism/patriotism? I can argue that nationalism/patriotism is very good for a nation. As well as I can argue that nazis have nothing to do in Poland.

How are people ever going to get the difference?

DariuszTelka
convex 20 | 3,978
15 Nov 2010 #176
At that point yes, but I don't think they believe in an Utopian race that should take over the countr/Europe

Heh, but, as an ideology, how would you classify them?

The Nazi platform doesn't say anything about taking over Europe and ruling others.

people.westminstercollege.edu/faculty/mmarkowski/H113/AH/platform .html

Replace "German" with "Polish", and you'll probably find quite a bit of agreement with the nationalists.
Mr Grunwald 29 | 1,978
16 Nov 2010 #177
nationalists.

lol
I am for multiculturism with an strong major Nation involved in the country, so NO no and another NO
Maybe 12 | 409
16 Nov 2010 #178
I tolerant everything but intolerance.
1jola 14 | 1,879
1 Dec 2010 #179
You flaky anti-fascists should get behind this "action:"

Pacyfiści protestują przeciwko wykładowi izraelskiego wojskowego, Eitana Dangota. - Polska fetuje mordercę dzieci - twierdzą

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rp.pl/artykul/572004_Nie-chca-wizyty-generala.html

Wonder why Gazeta Wyborcza is not organizing a fafifa this time? Come on guys, get involved. :)

Can't find anything in English yet.
CRACOVIA1906 - | 25
1 Dec 2010 #180
Its funny that nowadays every patriot gets called a nazi or a fascist... It's like you're not allowed to love your country


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