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The Polish Wedding - What is it Like in Poland?


Lenka 5 | 3525
9 Sep 2023 #151
for me it's margines społeczny

Yyy, the couple's decision about who keeps the money is enough to assign somebody to margines społeczny. Not how they spend they money or even if they have any money to keep? Wow...
Paulina 16 | 4395
9 Sep 2023 #152
That only proves that Polish family life is deteriorating.

Wow... You must be living in a different Poland than me. Where I live it's perfectly normal and it was normal since I can remember, so I see no "deteriorating" here. Polish families are quite often pretty matriarchal in some ways - and that's not only my observation.

I am lucky enough not to be acquainted personally with any family where a woman would be in charge of finances - for me it's margines społeczny. Sorry.

Then you don't know Polish society, imho, sorry...

Almost 60% of Polish women manage the family's finances, according to KRD report.

According to you almost 60% of Polish families are "margines społeczny"? o_O lol

Yyy, the couple's decision about who keeps the money is enough to assign somebody to margines społeczny.

Yeah, a very strange thing to say by a Polish man lol It's like Kania was born yesterday :)))
pawian 223 | 24385
9 Sep 2023 #153
What `s the matter???



GefreiterKania 30 | 1252
9 Sep 2023 #154
@Paulina, Lenka

Sorry, ladies, but we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

A man leaving the control of family finances in frail and emotions-driven female hands is asking for trouble, and it reeks of margines społeczny to me.
pawian 223 | 24385
9 Sep 2023 #155
Almost 60% of Polish women manage the family's finances, according to KRD report.

All of you are right. You and Lenka know 60% families where the woman protects the safe while Kania knows the remaining 40% where the male spouse does it.

in frail and emotions-driven female

It isn`t a good idea to provoke our female members in this way..... You will regret it....... :):):)
Lenka 5 | 3525
9 Sep 2023 #156
the woman protects the safe while Kania knows the remaining 40% where the male spouse does it.

While weird that would be OK, but all that margines spoleczny crap?

As to the freil and emotional? Well, Paulina showed the best answer with the article.
Paulina 16 | 4395
9 Sep 2023 #157
Sorry, ladies, but we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

It's not about agreeing or disagreeing. It's about facts. Almost 60% of Polish families surely aren't "margines społeczny".

A man leaving the control of family finances in frail and emotions-driven female hands is asking for trouble

And, again, what you're writing goes against facts. Those "frail and emotions-driven females" are BETTER at managing money than Polish men:

mycompanypolska.pl/artykul/kobiety-maja-mniej-pieniedzy-ale-lepiej-nimi-zarzadzaja-i-nie-wpadaja-w-dlugi/11428

and it reeks of margines społeczny to me.

It doesn't have anything to do with that. A lot of Polish men are simply lazy as far as family life is concerned, they are accustomed to the fact that mommy/wifey does everything for them and that includes worrying about money and managing them.

So, it's not that "family life is deteriorating" in Poland lol In many Polish families family life has been always like that. And in my opinion it's because Polish men are often being raised like that - they are accustomed that a lot is being done at home by women and they take a back seat, because it's simply... convenient for them. They don't have to do or worry about anything or much at home.
GefreiterKania 30 | 1252
9 Sep 2023 #158
all that margines spoleczny crap?

It's very simple really. If a woman, apart from her usual role of the guardian of ognisko domowe, taking care of children, home, family health etc., has to take care of finances on top of all that, it means that there is something deeply wrong with the man in such family. He may be an alcoholic, drug addict, gambler or whatnot, and such situations are way more common in (although, of course, not exclusive to) margines społeczny.

@Paulina

I refuse to believe this 60% number. Flatly refuse. That's it.
Paulina 16 | 4395
9 Sep 2023 #159
has to take care of finances on top of all that, it means that there is something deeply wrong with the man in such family.

Read my post above.

I refuse to believe this 60% number. Flatly refuse. That's it.

So you refuse to acknowledge reality... That's your problem.
GefreiterKania 30 | 1252
9 Sep 2023 #160
Read my above post

I read it. I dislike it. I disagree with it.

*I pout*
Lenka 5 | 3525
9 Sep 2023 #161
has to take care of finances on top of all that, it means that there is something deeply wrong with the man in such family

Or maybe simply the women in those households are better at it? Or the women has better idea how to devide the money from all that 'homemaking duties'.
Paulina 16 | 4395
9 Sep 2023 #162
I read it. I dislike it. I disagree with it.

*I pout*

LOL :D

Kania, seriously? Then you dislike and disagree with the reality... Sorry to say, but a lot of Polish men are like this... I don't like it either, but that's the reality.

The difference between you and me is that I don't think it's better if the man is in control of family finances. I prefer partnership - for me that's the most healthy option. Unless one of the spouses has a real problem and spends too much money uncontrollably, but, still, such stuff should be agreed upon.

Or the women has better idea how to devide the money from all that 'homemaking duties'.

Yes, that's how it works in Japan, btw, which is still a pretty traditional society. In Japan even the housewives who don't have a job outside the home run the family's finances anyway. Japan - the land of margines społeczny :)))
GefreiterKania 30 | 1252
9 Sep 2023 #163
Or maybe simply the women in those households are better at it?

The word "women" and the phrase "good with money" do not collocate.

If a woman is better with money than a man, it only proves that there is something deeply wrong with such man, as I said.

Or the women has better idea how to devide the money from all that 'homemaking duties'.

Oh, you meant that??? Well, of course the lady of the house should have more than ample means required to run the household allocated to her by her husband. Obviously.

I meant that serious finances: investing, saving, pension funds, larger purchases etc. as well as the duty of earning the money should lay in the hands of the lord of the house.

So we are not, in fact, in any disagreement here. :)
pawian 223 | 24385
9 Sep 2023 #164
The word "women" and the phrase "good with money" do not collocate.

:):) Novi taught you well. :):):)
You are provocatively discriminatory now. However, it is time to correct you. The ability to be good with money doesn`t depend on gender, but personality and upbringing.

There are female business people who are very good with money. :):):
jon357 73 | 23043
9 Sep 2023 #165
The word "women" and the phrase "good with money" do not collocate

I'm not sure Christine Lagarde would agree with you.

Or a friend of mine here who runs an investment club and has written books on investing.
Paulina 16 | 4395
9 Sep 2023 #166
of course the lady of the house should have more than ample means required to run the household allocated to her by her husband. Obviously.

I meant that serious finances: investing, saving, pension funds, larger purchases etc.

Oh, no, no, that's not how it works :D Oh, Kania, how would you survive in Japan??? :D:

japan246.com/2017/01/26/finance/

"60% of wives and 20% of husbands control finances at home in Japan.

-Sompo Japan Survey, 2013

The Japanese wives are actually "most powerful" at home compared to wives in other cultures. The majority of the Japanese women are solely responsible for making domestic financial decisions. When a man makes a big purchase, he would have to ask for permission from his wife in most households. The average Japanese husbands receive weekly or monthly "allowances." The wife may or may not work. It doesn't matter how much money she makes. It's probably because most Japanese men know deep in their hearts that the Japanese women tend to be more "financially savvy" and they will end up saving more money that way. If the husband is not happy with the amount of his allowances, he can negotiate with his wife. However, it is usually met with a comment from his wife such as "YOU need to make more money in order to do that."

Holy moly... :D
GefreiterKania 30 | 1252
9 Sep 2023 #167
What? Everybody is jumping on me now?

Sorry, people, but constant explaining the most obvious basics of Polish Family Life 101 to you is below my dignity.

Good night.
pawian 223 | 24385
9 Sep 2023 #168
jumping on me

You have achieved your aim, namely attracting everybody`s attention with provocative statements. Novi`s school. :):):)
Paulina 16 | 4395
9 Sep 2023 #169
explaining the most obvious basics of Family Life 101 to you is below my dignity.

Tell that to the Japanese, smart ass, haha :D

Good night.

Run, Kania, run... :D

hahaha
pawian 223 | 24385
29 Sep 2023 #170
Dear posters, before I show the next photos, let me remind you there is still a little riddle pending in my post 153. Anybody brave to guess as Light Brigade rider or Warsaw insurgent ????
Alien 21 | 5267
29 Sep 2023 #171
riddle pending in my post 153

Your hamster died and you buried it under a stone.
pawian 223 | 24385
29 Sep 2023 #172
Funny, but no, sorry, look closer. The clinker cobble isn`t the leit motif of that photo. Sth else is.
Alien 21 | 5267
29 Sep 2023 #173
Sth else is.

A broken champagne glass tied with string?
pawian 223 | 24385
29 Sep 2023 #174
Yes, you are getting closer. Can you develop this idea?
Alien 21 | 5267
29 Sep 2023 #175
@pawian
Breaking glasses may have something to do with the wedding.
pawian 223 | 24385
29 Sep 2023 #176
What exactly????
PS. Not only with weddings.
Feniks
29 Sep 2023 #177
I read somewhere that it's a tradition to throw the glasses and if they break it brings good luck?
pawian 223 | 24385
30 Sep 2023 #178
It is an old tradition of breaking glasses for good luck. In the past they were richly ornamented glasses which nobility broke to show off their wealth.

The glass in the photo above was the one thrown by the newly weds. They did it in front of the wedding house. Next photos suggest they didn`t drink from the glass yet. I didn`t witness the scene coz I was looking for a parking space for our big car.

Later everybody entered the house and received their share of "champagne" which in Poland is usually cheap sparkling wine.







pawian 223 | 24385
30 Sep 2023 #179
After the toast, the proper gift giving takes place. Some gifts were already handed in front of the church after the ceremony by too hasty guests who didn`t know the rules. :):):)





pawian 223 | 24385
8 Oct 2023 #180
After gift giving, guests are checking out their tables





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