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Grisly crimes in Poland


johnny reb 50 | 7,224
5 Mar 2024 #61
the police found articles about sexual crimes and books about serial killers at his place .

The same kind of articles they would find on your personal computer. o/O
OP jon357 74 | 22,746
5 Mar 2024 #62
he was convicted before for theft and possession of drugs.

That's just minor stuff really.

The worry is the obsession with serial killers. I always used to worry about the people who bought those magazines about them. Part Works (the kind that came out every month and people collected them in a binder).

I suppose it's all online now. It's fine to have an interest in crimes and detection however there is to be a way to pick up on people earlier.

A kid who was several years behind me at school caused a lot of concern to social workers and teachers. One of the teachers wrote in his notes that one day this boy will kill someone. He's now in gaol for life after snapping his own baby's spine over his knee.
Lazarus 1 | 154
5 Mar 2024 #63
The worry is the obsession with serial killers.

The obsession is the worry with all the serial criminals. That and the arrogance, the really dangerous ones never think they'll be punished for their crimes. They can see their childhood best friend send down for nearly a decade for sex crimes involving children but then they welcome the convict into their home when he's released, and go right back to watching hours on end of pre-pubescent children getting sweaty in gym class. Even several months on remand awaiting trial can't shake their confidence that they'll never answer for their crimes.
Paulina 16 | 4,474
5 Mar 2024 #64
It's fine to have an interest in crimes and detection however there is to be a way to pick up on people earlier.

True. That part is unofficial, but there's more info here that probably may say more about him:

onet.pl/informacje/onetwiadomosci/widzial-doriana-s-zaraz-po-ataku-tej-twarzy-nie-zapomne/yz1nc7e,79cfc278

Half an hour after the rape he went shopping and according to the shop assistant he behaved as if nothing happened...
Also, he lived with his girlfriend and according to the neighbours arguments and shouts started when he moved in (info from another article). According to the neighbours, judging by the sounds coming from their flat, he was hitting her.

after snapping his own baby's spine over his knee.

Jesus...

That and the arrogance, the really dangerous ones never think they'll be punished for their crimes.

According to the police he was surprised that they found him.
johnny reb 50 | 7,224
5 Mar 2024 #65
that they'll never answer for their crimes.

Oh they do as when people see they are forced into a divorce because of their illicit actions with a underaged stepchild and have to go on the lamb in hiding.

We pray for their lost souls.
Lazarus 1 | 154
5 Mar 2024 #66
According to the neighbours, judging by the sounds coming from their flat, he was hitting her.

It's mildly impressive that Poles now notice their neighbours are beating their wife/girlfriend, for far too long they've been like the denizens of backwoods Michigan and seen wife-beating as a god-given right. People in those places even think that convicted wife-beaters should serve as church elders. Just ask Jailhouse about that (although you'll need to use a US IP address to see his church's page now).

According to the police he was surprised that they found him.

He possibly also didn't think that what he did was a crime, as in his mind 'she was asking for it'. The same way that Jailhouse says we shouldn't blame priest who sexually abuse children, because the "racing hormones" of the children mean 'they're asking for it'. And the same way that nuns are asking to be punched in the face if they verbally chasten a teenager.
Ironside 50 | 12,487
5 Mar 2024 #67
he was hitting her.

She must have liked it!
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and seen wife-beating as a god-given right

Minding their business is not like women are chained to walls and have no rights.
Bobko 26 | 2,037
5 Mar 2024 #68
She must have liked it!

Hahahaha!

This Ironside... maybe a better comedian than me.

In the end, however, Russian sense of humor always wins against Polish sense of humor. I see the evidence for this in your jokes, which are largely copied from us.

Russian occupation was good for Poland in at least one aspect - they became funny.
Novichok 4 | 7,958
5 Mar 2024 #69
he was hitting her.

A woman can be hurt only once by a guy. The second time, it's consensual.

Russian occupation was good for Poland in at least one aspect - they became funny.

If they can claim migrants are good for Poland, you can claim what you just did.
Paulina 16 | 4,474
5 Mar 2024 #70
Part Works (the kind that came out every month and people collected them in a binder).

I was collecting "Praktyczny Kurs Rysunku i Malarstwa" and "Świat Wiedzy" when I was a kid/teen :))

Russian occupation was good for Poland in at least one aspect - they became funny.

You have no proof that Poles weren't funny before the RuSSian occupation :)

A woman can be hurt only once by a guy. The second time, it's consensual.

Rather "habitual". Such women usually come from homes where there was violence - directed at them or their mother or their siblings. They simply don't know anything better (and it's even possible they think they don't deserve anything better):

zdrowie.pap.pl/psyche/dlaczego-kobiety-tkwia-w-przemocowym-zwiazku-siedem-przyczyn

Obviously those women "don't like it". But that's the only life they know. They're damaged and they need some serious therapy.
OP jon357 74 | 22,746
5 Mar 2024 #71
I was collecting the "Français tout compris" ones myself, that and buying old mid nineteenth century magazines bound into books that you could buy for a few pence then.

Serial killers never appealed, especially as we'd just had the Ripper there.

They simply don't know anything better (and it's even possible they think they don't deserve anything better):

It's all too easy for someone to lose their self-esteem. Weak and nasty men have been taking advantage of this for centuries if not millennia.

Just ask Jailhouse about that

There's a lot that can't be said here. And is frankly better not said.
Lazarus 1 | 154
5 Mar 2024 #72
There's a lot that can't be said here. And is frankly better not said.

Best not to say it, don't want some clever lawyer trying to claim that Jailhouse can't get a fair trial because the jury has been poisoned against him by reading about what he did. Better if we don't even go as far as the Polish system of just first name and initial. Also, somebody should tell Joker to only post a blacked-out eyes photo from now on.



Ironside 50 | 12,487
5 Mar 2024 #73
They're damaged and they need some serious therapy.

It's all too easy for someone to lose their self-esteem

Well. well making excuses for women. Why I'm not surprised? So are they our equal or not? Should we treat women like a special case, not full-grown adults?
Novichok 4 | 7,958
6 Mar 2024 #74
They simply don't know anything better

Now they do...

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Chapter 3. Never say "Yeah...but I love him"

...when you know damn well that it's over.

Treat violence against you without mercy and forgiveness; one strike and you are done. Don't bother dragging him to marriage counseling to get him fixed. A safer bet is that they never change and always lie their way back to repeat the hit and I-am-so-sorry cycle.

When asked why they act out, their stock answer is that they have anger issues - a lie meant to deflect from the fact that men beat women because so many of them are testosterone-driven cowards unloading their disappointments in themselves on the physically weaker victims who are unlikely to get even. If you already bought his excuse about his uncontrollable impulses, try to recall how many times he went nuts with his boss after a bad review. If you can't, let me help you: never.

When Mr. Right morphs into a husband from hell, it's time to run. If you decide to file for divorce, do not tell him. Instead, take whatever you need, pack up, and move out when he is away. Immediately apply for a restraining order and get a lawyer. His visitation rights, if you have kids, will be handled later.

Do not forget to take the computer. You will need it for the financial data and his record of online gambling, cheating, and anything else your divorce lawyer may find useful.

Once you decide that you have had enough, the dumbest thing you can do is to provoke him with that theatrical I want a divorce, as if a divorce was an object like your car keys. This announcement is so ridiculous and without purpose that he may rightfully conclude that you actually don't mean it and that all you want is his attention and a chance to vent.

I-want-a-divorce will belong to your lawyer in his letter to your future ex while you are safely out of reach. Once the process starts, never go back to his place or invite him to yours if you value your life.

If staying alive doesn't mean much to you, just scream this to him: I am going to the police! I am going to report you to the IRS! I am going to take you out of my will! I am going to cancel my life insurance! I found somebody new and he is much better in bed!

It is not clear which one is the deadliest or the dumbest. What is not debatable is that women do it routinely and many of them die because of that irresistible desire to see men grovel.

We will never know what motivated Tanya Buschman to tell her husband not only that she would be leaving him, but also that she had found another man, as it is hard to interview dead people. What we do know is that men don't handle rejections very well.

When you get to that point in your life when you feel an irresistible urge to threaten, the line is already drawn and he is the enemy. It is always a tactical blunder to tell an enemy what you are planning, and the rule applies just the same at home. By telling him that you will call the IRS because you know he lied to them you will likely be signing your death warrant.

If despite what you just read you still want to trade - you give me the kids and I will not rat you out - at least be smart and protect yourself just in case he may feel tempted to score big if you were to suddenly disappear. With you mysteriously gone, he would be off the hook with the feds, keep the kids, and the money that would go to you if you divorced him. If you have a life insurance policy with him as the beneficiary, his desire to dispose of you will be even more irresistible.

To prevent all of this from happening, collect all the incriminating evidence and give it to your lawyer. Never accept an invitation to see him face-to-face alone regardless of how much enjoyment it would give you to watch him squirm.

If the one-strike-and-out advice looks too radical and you decide to linger on hoping that things will get better because he just got carried away, or snapped, or whatever excuse your forgiving and creative mind is desperately trying to come up with, consider that a single-act violent man is as likely as a one-time rapist or child molester.

You shouldn't give a rat's ass if violence is in his genes or a result of an unhappy childhood because there isn't a damn thing you can do about it except run and immediately file a criminal complaint with the police. Many women who procrastinated, or just decided not to do it, came to regret it when they found out later what their abusers did to other women, including murder. Many paid the ultimate price themselves.

Contrary to what you may think, the longer you stay in a bad relationship, the weaker your case. I was abused for twenty years, followed by ...but I still love him...makes the victim a lot less credible.

The first assault can be excused because you were blindsided, or you may feel you deserved it. If you don't act after the second incident, your friends and, later, the jury may wonder not what is wrong with him, but what is wrong with you, unless you were literally held captive in the basement.

Kissing up with a violent lowlife is nothing else than postponing the inevitable and engaging in wishful thinking most of us who never shared our experience will have a hard time understanding.

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To Mods: The above is what I wrote in the past.
Poloniusz 4 | 768
6 Mar 2024 #75
What adds to the tragedy and makes me feel sick to the stomach is that people literally walked by, saw what's going on and didn't help her.

People? That's a very conveniently gender-neutral term.

Why don't you climb down off your feminist high horse and admit that these "people" were actually two women?

"Two women who witnessed the brutal attack on 25-year-old Lisa in Warsaw have given testimony to the police. Surveillance cameras recorded that the women watched the situation for a short time, but did not take any action. Why?"

wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/wiadomosci/7,114883,30759215,widzialy-jak-dorian-s-krzywdzil-lize-ale-odeszly-zeznania.html?utm_source=ground.news&utm_medium=referral

Yes, indeed, Paulina, why?

Your profile states that you identify as female and your posts leave no doubt that you are a feminist.

So tell us about the pathology of these two women.

Since you feel so self-righteous speaking out on behalf of the female victim while ranting against the accused male then clearly you can also tell everyone about female indifference when literally witnessing the whole thing.

So, the conclusion is - you can get raped and killed in plain sight in Poland and noone will help you. That's the reality.

If you believe that then why did Poland suddenly become such a low trust society? You can start with yourself and your feminist movement.

It's plainly written here in this article that he's a Pole

By birth or naturalization?

Look at the pathology

It's better to look at the ideology.

The so-called "silent march" slogan "Miała na imię Liza" is straight out of the leftist Black Lives Matter playbook #SayHerName. Where is the originality?

Then there is this cliche feminist talking point: "We are fed up with living in danger".

As if Poland is on par or worse than South Africa, Sweden, Brazil, the UK and Israel when it comes to women being the victims of crime.

Hint: Poland's crime rates are well below other European countries and globally.

numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp?title=2023&region=150

But this doesn't fit the feminist narrative.

Neither does what is known as the "gender-fear paradox" which describes how women show higher levels of worry despite lower victimization rates while men have low rates of worry but higher victimization rates.

Such scum needs to be locked with the key thrown away.

I agree.

Both of you are glaring examples as to why Poland doesn't have a jury system. Neither one of you could be trusted with being impartial.

Psycho Polish males rape and murder foreign migrant women.

More leftist-approved talking points. Yawn.

It is so predictable now in all Western countries being confronted with unfettered mass migration.

Such phrasing is deliberate with the intent to demonize and browbeat the native male population into silence while conferring victimhood status onto all migrants and in particular migrant women.

It goes like this: If one Polish man commits a crime in Poland then all Polish men are to blame. When one migrant man commits a crime in Poland then stretch reality to the breaking point to try to identify the migrant as Polish. If that fails then just blame all men but never the migrant.
Novichok 4 | 7,958
6 Mar 2024 #76
If that fails then just blame all men but never the migrant.

That's why migrants should be shot at the border.

As far as gender-neutral bs...

Some women assault their kids and later play dumb with the medical staff. Predictably, the definitions of Munchhausen by proxy use gender-neutral terms like parent or caregiver while ignoring the statistics that the syndrome is entirely a female mental disorder. Some of the sick bi*tches are nurses.
Poloniusz 4 | 768
6 Mar 2024 #77
Some women assault their kids and later play dumb..

Definitely. The whole transgender craze is a grisly crime in and of itself and would never have gotten the social traction that it has if it weren't for narcissistic mothers seeking attention for themselves by enthusiastically going along with having their own children butchered.
OP jon357 74 | 22,746
6 Mar 2024 #78
Should we treat women like a special case, not full-grown adults?

What is that even supposed to mean?
Alien 21 | 5,264
6 Mar 2024 #79
Auschwitz

Not to Gaza? /Nie do Gazy
I won't explain this play on words this time.
Lenka 5 | 3,517
6 Mar 2024 #80
.Wouldn't the world be a better place if all LGBTs just disappeared?

No. Nut it would be if you disappeared from PF
amiga500 4 | 1,510
6 Mar 2024 #81
So are they our equal or not?

Equal does not preclude different.
johnny reb 50 | 7,224
6 Mar 2024 #82
That's why migrants should be shot at the border.

You are a migrant so why would you say such a stupid thing ?

No. Nut it would be if you disappeared from PF

I would go as far to say the U.S.A. altogether.
I don't think they would take him back to where he came from though.
Novichok 4 | 7,958
6 Mar 2024 #83
Nut it would be if you disappeared from PF

This forum needs more women so I will stay.
You can always ask the administrator to ban me.
johnny reb 50 | 7,224
6 Mar 2024 #84
You can always ask the administrator to ban me.

I have already offered him a $1000 to do just that but he said that you are just a depressed lonesome old man soon to die so he is going to let you keep yourself busy here all day every day annoying people because you have no other life because nobody can stand you.

This forum needs more women

You are not the solution to that Genius, you are the problem.
Paulina 16 | 4,474
6 Mar 2024 #85
Why don't you climb down off your feminist high horse and admit that these "people" were actually two women?

Because in one of the articles I've read that CCTV recording has shown other people besides those two women walking by when the rape was taking place and they didn't do anything either. I mentioned those two women, because they were the only ones who bothered to go the police (unfortunately after the fact) and give some explanation as to why they didn't react. And since I don't know the gender of the rest of the passersby recorded by the CCTV camera - I wrote "people".

I will respond to the rest of your rant when I have more time to read it :)
johnny reb 50 | 7,224
6 Mar 2024 #86
has shown other people besides those two women walking by when the rape was taking place

Now if you had gun laws like we do here in the U.S.A. to carry concealed guns any one of those passer byes could have pull his/her gun out and put it to the rapist head and pulled the trigger.

If you are in fear of your life or someone else's , (A.I.D.S.), you have the right to stand your ground with lethal force.

So see Paulina, you could have legal shot the rapist and killed him.
But since you hate guns...........
Ironside 50 | 12,487
6 Mar 2024 #87
To live in Russia, is to have a finely attuned sense of humor.

with a brick? ---
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if you had gun laws

That is a good point! However such crimes are an exception in Poland, and that is why everyone is talking about it.
Lazarus 1 | 154
6 Mar 2024 #88
you are just a depressed lonesome old man soon to die

As opposed to the lonesome old man soon to die in prison on charges that can't be mentioned here.
But of course the lonesome old man soon to die in prison on charges that can't be mentioned here has (a) the address of the owner of PF and (b) that shotgun the official report shows the police looked for but couldn't find, so I'd let him post whatever he wanted on my website too.
pawian 224 | 24,524
7 Mar 2024 #89
Certain woman murdered her neighbour who had brutally killed her dog. The lower courts ruled 25 years for her but the Supreme Court was more lenient - only 16 years, and she can be released after 12. Amasing!!!

Whole story here:
tvn24.pl/polska/zabila-sasiada-za-zabicie-psa-sad-najwyzszy-zdecydowal-st7809892
OP jon357 74 | 22,746
8 Mar 2024 #90
Amasing

She should have been given a medal for killing the creep who murdered her doggie.


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