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Grisly crimes in Poland


jon357 74 | 22,287
26 Nov 2021 #1
This case from Kraków, well-known here but not so well-known abroad, must be one of the worst...

"Whoever did this, expertly skinned the body, and sewed it back together. Kasia's arms and most of her face were missing. The cut went diagonal from the neck up over the face and included only one ear"

evidencelockerpodcast.com/transcripts/transcript-37-the-skin-suit-case-of-krakow-poland
Novichok 4 | 8,069
26 Nov 2021 #2
I am sure there is a good reason why you brought it up here.

Do you know what it is?
OP jon357 74 | 22,287
26 Nov 2021 #3
One of the better known ones is The Vampire of Gałkówek, Stanisław Modrzelewski, executed in 1967.

"He took valuables as well as useless objects from his victims which he then threw away. He executed them with utmost cruelty."
expressilustrowany.pl/50-lat-temu-zostal-powieszony-stanislaw-modzelewski-zwany-wampirem-z-galkowka-zdjecia/ga/13988801/zd/34624243
johnny reb 49 | 7,331
26 Nov 2021 #4
Sick, totally a sick mind.
mafketis 37 | 10,840
26 Nov 2021 #5
I few years ago I read Wampir z Zagłębia (by Przemysław Semczuk). As with any true crime the author has to put things in a narrative and Semczuk's narrative is partly about how (especially deviant) crimes were covered in the PRL.

takeaways: the government couldn't keep it covered up, but.... a bunch of unrelated crimes were ascribed to the Wampir because one crazy killer seemed less terrifying than the reality (there were a bunch of crazy killers running around Silesia at the time). Technically there were only a very small number committed by the Wampir.

the real Wampir was most likely Piotr Olszowy who had committed suicide in 1970 (after which the signature crimes stopped - though copycat cases continued for a few years)

The guy executed (Marchwicki) was probably innocent of most of the crimes he was charged with (and his confession is certainly forged) but he most likely was involved in one murder at the behest of his brother, but true to type.... he killed the wrong person.

There was no computer (a fancy lie made up at the time to reassure the public) Machwicki's wife (a straight up psycho) reported him to the police.... and they took the bait.
OP jon357 74 | 22,287
26 Nov 2021 #6
the government couldn't keep it covered up, but.... a bunch of.unrelated.crimes.were ascribed to the Wampir because one crazy killer seemed less terrifying than the reality

Public sentiment is always a big concern, however yes, there are certainly such people 'operating' now, and staying ahead of the police.

I once read an FBI estimate that there were 40 serial killers on the loose at any one time in the USA. To math that down to Polish population size, there are probably more than 10 here. There was an exhibition in Warsaw (I think near Dw Centrally) about people who had gone missing and there were a lot.
OP jon357 74 | 22,287
27 Nov 2021 #7
Today's is one of my favourites, Władysław Mazurkiewicz (1910 - 1957), sometimes called 'Beautiful Władek' or the 'Gentleman Murderer'. He got away with it so long because his victims were members of the pre-war Kraków middle classes who during the war and the Stalin years often went missing, either because they'd fled or because the state had 'disappeared' them. As Time Magazine said at the time: "So many people were removed by the secret police that no one thought of suspecting a private initiative of it."

One of his victims was the landowner and businessman Jerzy de Laveaux (presumably a relative of both General Ludwik de Laveaux and the artist of the same name) who he killed during the war. Post-war he also killed de Laveaux's wife and sister-in-law.

Between 8 and 30 victims, killed by either cyanide-laced sandwiches or a shot to the back of the head.

minnie-kryminalistka.pl/wladyslaw-mazurkiewicz-vel-elegancki-morderca/

Tomorrow (if time), the infamous (and maybe innocent) Rita Gorgonowa.



johnny reb 49 | 7,331
27 Nov 2021 #8
Tomorrow (if time), the infamous (and maybe innocent) Rita Gorgonowa.

Oh she was innocent alright.
I think the boyfriend did it.
OP jon357 74 | 22,287
27 Nov 2021 #9
Somebody certainly did, and they were in the house at the time.

The turd behind the plant pot and the menstrual rags in the cellar are hard to explain away.
OP jon357 74 | 22,287
21 Jun 2022 #10
Oh she was innocent alright

Maybe yes, maybe no.

The boyfriend (who wasn't a boyfriend) had an alibi and there was crisp snow with no footprints on sound the house.

Some people think the son Staś did it however this is unlikely.

Interestingly,after being released from gaol she was involved in various lawsuits and minor crimes and ended up running a kiosk in Silesia.
pawian 223 | 24,567
8 Sep 2023 #11
An 85 year old man, after having planned the murder , killed his ex wife coz in 1978 she made him leave their house for abusing the family. The murderer had prepared to the act for 4 years. A brutal revenge after 45 years - incredible.

He shot her in the face.

Another reason why Poles mustn`t get a full access to firearms.

Article here:
onet.pl/informacje/onetpoznan/kulisy-zabojstwa-we-wsi-paruszka-w-wielkopolsce-zemsta-po-45-latach/jhqrxvg,79cfc278
Novichok 4 | 8,069
8 Sep 2023 #12
Another reason why Poles mustn`t get a full access to firearms.

I agree 100%. The problem is that one day Poles will discover knives.
pawian 223 | 24,567
8 Sep 2023 #13
Poles will discover knives.

Exactly. Right now they are going through the axe stage...... :):):)
Novichok 4 | 8,069
8 Sep 2023 #14
In the meantime, fists. Do you have to register and have a license to have fists in Poland?
pawian 223 | 24,567
8 Sep 2023 #15
In the meantime, fists.

It takes a very strong person to kill sb with fists. Such a senile guy like that 85 yo wouldn`t have been able to kill his 70 yo wife with bare fists. So he used a firearm, most probably illegal.

That is why Poles shouldn`t possess guns coz killing with them is very easy. Too easy. We don`t need thousands of easy deaths in Poland. Let them remain an American characteristic.
OP jon357 74 | 22,287
8 Sep 2023 #16
Poles shouldn`t possess guns

Nor should anyone.

I'd just have given her some mushroom soup.
pawian 223 | 24,567
8 Sep 2023 #17
Nor should anyone.

Let`s be realistic. Tradition is tradition, so Americans will never give up guns just like Russians will never give up vodka.

I'd just have given her some mushroom soup

The services would track you down quite soon. :):) The elderly killer did his best to avoid witnesses.
OP jon357 74 | 22,287
8 Sep 2023 #18
so Americans will never give up guns just like Russians will never give up vodka.

Indeed. As long as they keep their vices to themselves, it's fine.

I may continue this thread, which one is best to go next, Rita Gorgonowa or the Mazur Cannibal Family?
pawian 223 | 24,567
8 Sep 2023 #19
Cannibals are always more grisly than anything else..... :):):)
Hey, jon, do you know that story of a woman who falls in love with a cannibal even though he eats her arm and leg??
OP jon357 74 | 22,287
8 Sep 2023 #20
I'll look for that one. A bit like that German guy.

woman who falls in love with a cannibal even though he eats her arm and leg??

Sounds very one sided...
pawian 223 | 24,567
8 Sep 2023 #21
very one sided...

No, because it was the left arm and the right leg. Or vice versa. Actually, it doesn`t matter which side they were on, But certainly a two sided case it was.
Novichok 4 | 8,069
8 Sep 2023 #22
Tradition is tradition,

Tradition + nig*ers.

Did you know that in the US the black murder rate is 17 times higher than the white one? If you moved here, you would buy a gun before you would your first gallon of milk.

The simplest way to kill is by sleeping pills followed by a rope around the neck. A child can do it, it's so easy. No special strength is required. And it's 100% silent.
pawian 223 | 24,567
8 Sep 2023 #23
Did you know that in the US the black

Yes, I do coz you always repeat it. And what did you expect?? Black Americans still feel estranged in the country established by white supremacists.

If you moved here, you would buy a gun

That is why I will never do it. :):):)
OP jon357 74 | 22,287
8 Sep 2023 #24
But certainly a two sided case it was.

It needs balance.

And so does she.
Novichok 4 | 8,069
8 Sep 2023 #25
Black Americans still feel estranged in the country established by white supremacists.

93% of blacks are mudered by other blacks. Sorry, pawian, but black murders have nothing to do with whites. They murder because their IQ is very low.

That's why they rape Swedish women. You can't take the jungle out of predatory animals.
OP jon357 74 | 22,287
8 Sep 2023 #26
93% of blacks are mudered by other blacks

In Poland?

They murder because their IQ is very low.

Are they off topic too?

I might screenshot that and send it to your appalled daughters.
pawian 223 | 24,567
8 Sep 2023 #27
but black murders have nothing to do with whites

Of course they do.. While feeling estranged, you do various strange things without sticking to any set categories or rules.
Novichok 4 | 8,069
9 Sep 2023 #28
While feeling estranged,

That's what I meant. When your IQ is low, you are not capable of rational thought so you attack your own.
pawian 223 | 24,567
12 Jan 2024 #29
A man was detained in a case related to the death of a 31-year-old woman at an unguarded railway crossing in Mezów (Pomeranian Voivodeship). The prosecutor's office charged him with murder. He is 34-year-old Tomasz K., the woman's husband. Investigators found out that the woman had been murdered earlier, and that the perpetrator then moved his wife's body and left it in a car at a railway crossing.

Grażyna Wawryniuk, spokeswoman for the District Prosecutor's Office in Gdańsk, announced that an autopsy of the victim's body was performed on Friday. - The woman mainly suffered head injuries that were not the result of a traffic accident. These were injuries inflicted by a foreign hand with a blunt instrument. According to investigators, the murder took place at the woman's workplace, she said.

According to investigators, the victim died in the beauty and hairdressing salon in Kiełpin, where she worked. - In order to hide the crime, the suspect transported the woman in the trunk and left her in the car on the tracks, which was then hit by the train - added prosecutor Wawryniuk. The prosecutor's office charged the man with murder with direct intent.

The prosecutor said that the man was interrogated and partially confessed to the crime. - The man gave explanations that will be verified - the prosecutor said.

As PAP found out, Tomasz K. was the victim's husband, and the couple was separating. The prosecutor's office will probably submit an application for temporary arrest on Saturday.

pawian 223 | 24,567
21 Jan 2024 #30
Cruel, grisly, abominable, atrocious crime!

A 69-year-old from the commune of Laszki in Podkarpacie, suspected of "attempted poaching", faces up to five years in prison. The man set up snares in the forest for wild animals, which - if they fell into the trap - would die in agony. The poacher was caught red-handed.

- We observed places where snares were found, and the installed camera traps allowed us to collect evidence in the form of photos and videos - said Stanisław Sopel, commander of the forest guard in the Jarosław Forest District, quoted in the statement of the State Forests.

Thanks to the recordings, police and forest guards detained a man they suspect of setting deadly traps for animals. The 69-year-old was caught red-handed. He had a machete, pliers and a nail with him.


For what he did, trap him in his own snares and leave in the forest for a few days. Local wolves will make short work of the madafaker.







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