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Has feminism and lesbianism progressed in Poland?


pawian  221 | 25381
7 Feb 2022   #301
This is why men like you simply make me sick...

And there are so many sickos like him which also makes me sick.
It is time for women to kick those useless males hard in the butt and take control over countries first and eventually, the world. Simple.
Novichok  5 | 7952
7 Feb 2022   #302
the world. Simple.

And beyond...Also, make God a she.
pawian  221 | 25381
7 Feb 2022   #303
make God a she.

It isn`t necessary coz God is already She. Has always been. Simple.
Novichok  5 | 7952
7 Feb 2022   #304
I am assuming that she-god can't get ovarian cancer. How about menopause?
pawian  221 | 25381
7 Feb 2022   #305
she-god can't get ovarian cancer

No, She can`t. Can He-God get prostate cancer?

Do you know this famous painting? Here it is as Micheal Angelo originally painted it.


  • femalegod.jpg
Novichok  5 | 7952
8 Feb 2022   #306
She can`t. Can He-God get prostate cancer?

Neither can because both are fiction. That's why I never worry that Masha can get hurt by the Bear or happened to the Red Riding Hood.

BTW, did Polish feminists say how far they want to go and no further, or is theirs a moving goal post?
johnny reb  48 | 7773
8 Feb 2022   #307
Neither can because both are fiction.

Not true, only a small minority of atheist believe that.
And come Judgement Day when you are kneeling before God Almighty you will finally understand the big lie Satan has been telling you.
BTW, the Polish women are finally standing their ground against both mental and physical abuse by the uneducated Losers in Poland.

or is theirs a moving goal post?

No, males like you can't grasp the thought that women don't need men to survive but men do need women to survive.
That's what just grinds your shorts into a knot, Rich, no matter how you want to twist it.
gumishu  15 | 6183
8 Feb 2022   #308
that women don't need men to survive

could you explain how?
Novichok  5 | 7952
8 Feb 2022   #309
Simple. They don't need their men. They need other men - those they don't have to sleep with. Like plumbers.
Plus, you can buy sperm on the way home from shopping for shoes. Pawian knows where.
cruisepatron  1 | 95
8 Feb 2022   #310
women don't need men to survive but men do need women to survive.

That's not true and we don't need to go far to look for evidence. Simply look around where you live... most of it if not all were built by men be it houses, roads, cars, airports and the list can go on. Without men around all of that would collapse within a decade or so. Women are not biological leaders... without a leader women tend to behave like headless chickens... there are exceptions but exceptions do not make the norm.
gumishu  15 | 6183
8 Feb 2022   #311
That's not true and we don't need to go far to look for evidence.

I didn't even think of survival in such terms - I meant survival as getting new generations and not dying out - as far as I know our science hasn't devised parthenogenesis as yet
Novichok  5 | 7952
8 Feb 2022   #312
I meant survival as getting new generations and not dying out

How do you do that without men?
Did you know that any society can easily survive with all women being lesbians and all guys being gay? Amazing, a miracle, or both.
Novichok  5 | 7952
8 Feb 2022   #313
Not exactly about Poland but if that is feminism, I would rather have dinner with a random hooker...

dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10490405/BRIT-Awards-2022.html

The first comment supports my opinion:

Is this a p.o.r.n or music award?
Cojestdocholery  2 | 986
8 Feb 2022   #314
my mother

Don't you have a father? They are a different generation. If you claim that only women worked hard you lie.
Why every talk about ideology dissolve into same petty squabble that goes nowhere?
Why taking care of children cleaning or making food is seen as a work in the coal mine?

but still my mother has to pick her up

Why? Is she forced to do it? Why don't you do it then to help her out?
Didn't she take it onto herself becasue she wanted to? Why is that men fault? Are you joking?

And men die earlier, because they smoke like chimneys,

Those are some reasons but not all. There biological issuess too.
If a man would pile on women as much as you do you would call him sexist.
pawian  221 | 25381
8 Feb 2022   #315
science hasn't devised parthenogenesis as yet

Didn`t Professor Kuppelweiser invent that long ago?

If you claim that only women worked hard you lie.

She already told you that Polish women hold two jobs - at work and at home, while many good for nothing males only one but those bums still claim they are dead tired.
Novichok  5 | 7952
8 Feb 2022   #316
Didn't she take it onto herself because she wanted to?

That's exactly what they do. Take on things voluntarily, obsess about some stain, and then complain about it for attention and to get even with "their man" for his past sins but without telling him what. "You would know if you really loved me!"

women hold two jobs

Actually, three - nagging and gossiping on the phone 20/7.
pawian  221 | 25381
9 Feb 2022   #317
nagging and gossiping on the phone 20/7.

Do the women you know act in this way? Then you are a loser and we can only pity you. Coz my women behave differently. :):):
Paulina  16 | 4338
9 Feb 2022   #318
Don't you have a father?

Can't you read?

If you claim that only women worked hard you lie.

I didn't claim that. Actually, it was Poloniusz who claimed that only men work hard and women don't. He even went as far as claiming that after women retire they become even more "idle in society" than when they were working, which is simply a lie. My post was only a response to his outrageous and unfair claims and lies about women.

Also, I don't think anyone compared taking care of children and house to working in a coal mine, so why are you arguing with points that noone made?

Actually, working in a coal mine is in some ways better. You get paid for it. You get retirement money for it. And once you're done, you can go home and rest (if you're a man, that is).

Why? Is she forced to do it? Why don't you do it then to help her out?

Yes, she is, because noone else will do that for her. Are you saying that I'm supposed to live with my parents and resign from my own life in order to help my mother take care of someone else's kid, because my father, who lives with her, is too lazy and selfish to help her out? Are you serious?

If a man would pile on women as much as you do you would call him sexist.

LOL
My post was only a rebuttal of Poloniusz's misogynistic lies. And, unlike him, I only described reality. It's funny that you objected to what I wrote, but you didn't react in any way to Poloniusz's unfair comments about women. I'm afraid it shows what a hypocrite you are.
mafketis  38 | 11010
9 Feb 2022   #319
after women retire they become even more "idle in society"

I've always thought that one of the reason for the large lifespan gap between men and women in this part of the world is that an older woman is an asset to a household in a way that an older man.... isn't.

When people have/find no use in life... they die.
Paulina  16 | 4338
9 Feb 2022   #320
@maf, you have a point, but... I'll put it like this... Unlike my father, who could sit most of the day in an armchair and watch TV or browse the internet on his phone, my mother moves a lot. She's doing stuff, making sandwiches for breakfast and supper, she's cleaning, doing laundry both by hand and with the washing machine, she's playing with my niece, she's taking her to the playground and for walks. She doesn't have a driving license, so she's going everywhere on foot. My father is going almost everywhere by car. He smokes a lot, more than my mother, he abused alcohol for most of my life, he uses a lot of salt and there's no way of talking him into eating more healthy - I've tried. Green stuff is "food for goats" according to him. His cholesterol and sugar levels are above the norm (his father was a diabetic who died of a heart attack, btw). He goes outside basically only when my mother asks him to help her out with some bigger shopping and when he goes to the doctor. He will eat an apple only when my mother peels it for him - he's too lazy to do it by himself.

Who do you think will live longer?
Oathbreaker  4 | 347
9 Feb 2022   #321
@Paulina
Sounds more like he as in the "person" has issues.

I would have inquired as to when he started to drink and smoke, wether it had to do with lost love or not. I wouldn't ask those questions when he is near his wife (just in case, so he can be as frank as overly possible).

A weekend trip, asking how he is doing and if everything is all right. Sounds like he might be feeling lonely even in a crowd of people, maybe I am wrong tho
pawian  221 | 25381
9 Feb 2022   #322
that an older man.... isn't.

Grandpa can be as valuable an asset to the family as grandma. I know it from our family`s experience.

And our grandpa when still alive was a much better grandpa than he had been a father in his younger days, coz he had spent a lot of time at work or workshop and didn`t care about kids. But he did care about grandkids.
mafketis  38 | 11010
9 Feb 2022   #323
Grandpa can be as valuable an asset to the family as grandma

Can be, but I think the case that Paulina described is more typical.
pawian  221 | 25381
9 Feb 2022   #324
I think the case that Paulina described is more typical.

No, not yet, you can`t say it now coz it is too early. I was talking about grandpa, whole Paulina`s father is still only a father if we correctly understand her family`s situation. He can change for grandkids, just like our grandpa did.
Paulina  16 | 4338
9 Feb 2022   #325
Sounds more like he as in the "person" has issues.

Then there were and are quite a few such male "persons" in my family and outside of it...

wether it had to do with lost love

Oh, Oathy... ;D What a romantic you are lol

I wouldn't ask those questions when he is near his wife (just in case, so he can be as frank as overly possible).

Sorry, but me and my brother don't talk about personal or difficult stuff with our father. We don't have much of a bond with him. Also, we don't have such talks in our family in general. My father's drinking problem (and of other men in our family) was always a taboo, so me and my brother had noone to talk about it.

A weekend trip, asking how he is doing and if everything is all right.

lol
Oh, he's all right, don't you worry. Psychologically he's doing much better than my mother. Also, he never asked me or my brother how we were or are doing or what his drinking and lack of interest and affection towards us has done to us, so why should I ask him "if everything is all right"? It's enough that I take much greater interest in his health than he takes in mine, even though my health problems are more serious than his.

Grandpa can be as valuable an asset to the family as grandma.

Yup.

But as I wrote in my #297 post my father is already a grandpa. And to some extent he is a better grandpa than he was a father - at least he isn't drinking anymore, for example...
Novichok  5 | 7952
9 Feb 2022   #326
He will eat an apple only when my mother peels it for him - he's too lazy to do it by himself.

Voluntarily. Tell her not to do it.
Oathbreaker  4 | 347
9 Feb 2022   #327
Oh, Oathy... ;D What a romantic you are lol

*blushes*
That stays between us preferably, I rather not talk about it
Cojestdocholery  2 | 986
9 Feb 2022   #328
working in a coal mine is in some ways better.

Really? Go for it and then come back and start talking sense.

resign from my own life in order to help my mother

That would make you a person I would respect. You can be selfish and bitter about your father, but your father has no right to live as he wants after his children become adults? Nice.

How does it help your mother?
I thought all that was to benefit your mother, not to tell us that you have daddy issues, and you care about your mother as long as its only a talk. Do you really care about your mother or you feel gulity for not helping her out and blame it on your father. What are you going to to when he dies?

someone else's kid

Is that your sister/brother child? Its your family how can you be so cold?

you didn't react in any way to Poloniusz's unfair comments about women

I don't care about his comment:
its theoretical, its generalisation, his frame of refrence is not Poland. I don't know, maybe in his country women are like that. Do you know better?
Paulina  16 | 4338
9 Feb 2022   #329
Go for it and then come back and start talking sense.

Right after you try the life of a working Polish woman :) - doing two jobs, one at work and one at home. I can see by the tone of your comments concerning taking care of children, cooking and housework that all of that was done by your ex-wife when you were still married, so you don't know what it's like. I'm also guessing that after divorce your daughter stayed with her mom, right?

That would make you a person I would respect.

LOL
You've got to be kidding me :D Would you resign from your job and taking care of your own family in order to live with your parents and help your mother in taking care of your niece? My brother and his wife aren't invalids. My mother takes care of my niece if they're both working. She offered herself to do that, because she's retired and so she has the time. In fact, she retired earlier so my sister-in-law could go back to work, although I advised my mother not to do this, since she'd get lower retirement because of that.

Is that your sister/brother child? Its your family how can you be so cold?

LOL
I love my niece, but I'm just one of her relatives - she has parents and grandparents who can take care of her. If my brother and sister-in-law died and my parents weren't able to take care of her then it would be my duty to take up the daily care of her. Since they are all alive and well - it's not my duty.

You can be selfish and bitter about your father

How am I being selfish about my father?? lol

, but your father has no right to live as he wants after his children become adults?

You mean - after his children became adults he can continue to be a lousy husband and a crappy grandfather? Well, sure he can lol But then I can call it the way it is - that he's a lousy husband and a crappy grandfather.

Btw, if my father doesn't want to help my mother in taking care of his own granddaughter, he could at least help his own wife by doing the shopping, by making supper for her when she's tired after a whole day of taking care of a small, lively kid. But he wasn't and isn't doing that. Do you understand?

If I can understand that my mother is tired (you don't have to be a telepath for that) and it would be simply basic human decency to at least make some sanwiches for her for supper after she comes back tired and hungry (because she didn't manage to eat dinner) from shopping, then why my father can't understand that? Is he a moron? Or a selfish, lazy, inconsiderate a$$hole?
Novichok  5 | 7952
9 Feb 2022   #330
I am really curious... How many hours a week the average married woman with a couple of kids spends doing things because she is the only one who is capable of doing them. An example: only she can get pregnant and deliver a baby.

Do women operate on the basis that only they can do things well enough or who if not me? The best example is cleaning kids' bedrooms.

he could at least help his own wife by doing the shopping, by making supper for her when she's

Simple. Hey, you want food? Go shopping! You want to eat? Cook! For yourself and, while you are at it, for me, too.


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