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Has feminism and lesbianism progressed in Poland?


Novichok 4 | 8,068
5 Feb 2022 #271
Take to the streets today and lobby hard for Option B

Nie. Not as much fun as for abortion rights. And there is no Soros money in your idea.
If you combine the two...maybe.
Poloniusz 4 | 712
5 Feb 2022 #272
And even in Poland it's in big part so they can look after the grandkids

That's really funny.

Where are these "grandkids" you are referring to? Thanks to feminism there are hardly any being born in Poland.



Women simply are not doing their part. Therefore they should not be paid an early pension in order to "look after the grandkids" when there are virtually none around.

there is no Soros money in your idea

Not at the moment.

Sure, Polish men have already been written off like their counterparts in other gynocentric countries.

So the next struggle between increasing scarce resources to fund benefits will be between long living elderly white women versus their much younger and fertile third world migrant replacements.

That's when you'll see Soros' hand discarding old entitled feminists onto a trash heap.
Atch 22 | 4,128
5 Feb 2022 #273
the Irish in Ireland

Well I am 'the Irish in Ireland' and to us Edgar Allen Poe is American. Ireland's Own would claim the Queen of England herself as Irish. Anyway, take it from me that in matters relating to Irish culture and folklore I know far more than you do :) The Banshee is a harbinger of death but she never causes harm to anyone. Oh, and she can't be summoned.

Where are these "grandkids" you are referring to?

If you ever visited Poland you'd see them. Stop being silly. There are plenty of grandchildren and plenty of grandparents providing childcare for them.

which retirement option based on life expectancy do you prefer, A or B?

I believe that the current pension/retirement system in developed countries is no longer fit for purpose. State pensions and official retirement ages are a very recent innovation in human history and the present system doesn't work for many reasons. Now having said that, I see no reason why women should retire earlier than men. In fact it's a pity that somebody in their sixties who is capable of doing their job competently should be obliged to retire if they don't want to, but I suppose we do need a certain number of people to retire each year in order to create vacancies in the employment market for those of the younger generations.
pawian 224 | 24,465
5 Feb 2022 #274
Pick your poison pawian!

:):) Actually, it was a poisonous trap for you, my dear, and I am really amazed you didn`t sense it. It isn`t the first time recently when I miss that old good Polo with his sharp mind. Currently you are like a kid lost in the foggy forest. :):)

EQUITY!

Exactly, darling. That`s what I crave for, too. That is why I always vote for PO which passed regulations allowing men and women have the same retirement age.

But, your beloved PiS abolished it. Can you imagine it? The same PiS which you say prayers for and hope for their eternal rule in Poland! hahaha

That is why I asked you if it was important and you nicely fell for that. Yes, it was an important regulation introduced by PO, annihilated by PiS.

Men's productivity at work takes a physical and mental toll.

Bs, darling. Stop lying coz I am sure you are doing it purposefully now. Males live shorter coz they engage in various harmful activities which affect their body and mind: abusing alco and drugs, smoking, gambling and womanizing.

Ha! It is not women`s fault that stupid males don`t take care and in result live much below the norm.

Excellent post!

Yes, excellent in the sense of vast usage of manipulation plus contradicting his own views. hahaha
Strzelec35 34 | 903
5 Feb 2022 #275
" abusing alco and drugs, smoking, gambling and womanizing"

how is this a harmful sctivity womanizing? sex actuslly makes people live longer.
Poloniusz 4 | 712
5 Feb 2022 #276
That is why I always vote for PO which passed regulations allowing men and women have the same retirement age.

Your beloved PO only did it for budgetary reasons; equity had nothing to do with it.

Read here: kitco.com/news/2016-11-16/Polish-parliament-approves-lowering-retirement-age.html

Indeed, their actions never would have addressed the matter of different life expectancies between men and women. In fact, they only made matters worse for men by shortening their already very limited retirement years even more!

Yes, it was an important regulation introduced by PO, annihilated by PiS.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Or should I say Tusk, Tusk, Tusk! :):)

Fact: The leader of Poland's opposition Civic Platform (PO) admitted that his party made a mistake while in government by raising the retirement age.

Source: polskieradio.pl/395/7784/Artykul/2340288

it was a poisonous trap for you and I am really amazed you didn`t sense it.

Au contraire, once again you have fallen into your own trap and exposed as a fraud! LOL!

You adore Tusk for not being Trump who admires Putin but I've shown that it is actually Tusk who adores Putin!

You adore PO for not being PiS but I've shown PO actually agrees with PiS policies because on gender matters they are both gynocentric!

You are trapped!

I accept your surrender! :):)


pawian 224 | 24,465
5 Feb 2022 #277
equity had nothing to do with it.

Really? You are lying again. PO and Tusk pointed to the provisions protecting the equality of sexes in the Polish Constitution and the European law as the main reason for passing the new regulations.

his party made a mistake while in government by raising the retirement age.

Darling, we are talking about introducing the same retirement age, not about raising it. These are two different things so stop mixing them . You are really lost in the foggy forest. :):):)

but I've shown

Yes, you have shown your cheeky lies and manipulation again. :):):

You are trapped!

Obviously not - my traps are working fine. . :):):)
pawian 224 | 24,465
5 Feb 2022 #278
No

I suspect you are trying to prevent me with your infantile remarks from posting more memes. I have seen through your dirty tricks - now the game is over!

This cat meme is especially close to my heart:

Hard work compels us to take a rest. Rest doesn`t compel us to anything.
Does it mean a woman has the right to give up taking care of the house, her lazy selfish husband/partner and kids when she feels it drives her crazy ??. The problem is that women hardly ever give up even when on the verge of madness - coz they are so strong. Males can learn from them.



pawian 224 | 24,465
5 Feb 2022 #279
He does

Yes, I do and am proud of it. However, this matter is surely off-topic. Can you switch to feminism instead?
Novichok 4 | 8,068
5 Feb 2022 #280
Can you switch to feminism instead?

OK. Women are nuts.

They will kill you if they can't put their paws on your cash while you are alive.

The single stupidest thing a man can do is to make himself more valuable dead than alive. Morons like this buy "life insurance". Might just as well buy a gun with instructions how to use it.

From now on, starting tomorrow, I will post two such stories a day with names and dates.
The one I watched today had a very happy ending...The bi*tch got the death penalty. I was ecstatic.
pawian 224 | 24,465
5 Feb 2022 #281
I will post two such stories a day with names and dates.

Very well, but you have to post stories from Poland coz this thread concerns Polish matters. :):)

Women are nuts.

Yes, we know you are a women hater. :)
Novichok 4 | 8,068
5 Feb 2022 #282
I will post what I have access to as a teaching moment for their Polish sisters and to show their capabilities. Women in Poland are the same except they don't have the tools - like baseball bats, guns, antifreeze, arsenic, tire irons,...Knives...maybe...

OK, I will post them in Random. This way you will keep your comments a secret.

In the meantime, who do women install rings in their noses or eyebrows? As a message that (1) I can be as stupid as I want or (2) I am ready to be your sex slave? Just bring the rope.

Pawian, you are an expert on such matters, so which one is it?
pawian 224 | 24,465
6 Feb 2022 #283
who do women install rings in their noses or eyebrows?

Who or why? :):)

As a message that

Why are you so narrow-minded and offer only two options?? There are many more. Just try to think why men do it and you will have your answers for females, too. I am afraid you have chosen a silly example with those piercings. :):)



Oathbreaker 4 | 418
6 Feb 2022 #284
@Novichok
Either fashion or a form of protest of men wanting them to look pleasing to the eye. Or possibly projecting their own wants, like tattoos which is an abhorrent way to show lack of respect of one's own body.
pawian 224 | 24,465
6 Feb 2022 #285
Even superwomen have down to earth problems:

Where did I park that fekking car??



Novichok 4 | 8,068
6 Feb 2022 #286
I am afraid you have chosen a silly example with those piercings. :):)

One idiotic act does not excuse other idiotic acts.
BTW, I am absolutely sure that there is a woman who is oh so impressed and loves this freak.

or a form of protest of men wanting them to look pleasing to the eye.

You are supporting my claim that women are nuts. You have to be a total moron "to protest" and do it by hanging metal junk on your face or other body parts.
pawian 224 | 24,465
6 Feb 2022 #287
form of protest of men .

Of course not. Rings and other piercings have had a long tradition since prehistoric times.
pawian 224 | 24,465
6 Feb 2022 #288
Males have fun while females work hard. It is unfair.

Working out at the gym on Christmas Eve I got an impression that 95% of the society is males.



pawian 224 | 24,465
6 Feb 2022 #289
And since women are always the predominate instigators of arguments

Coz a bad woman she was. hahaha

Did put that notice on your gate? :):)

Caution. Bad wife. Dog - OK.



Novichok 4 | 8,068
7 Feb 2022 #290
I don't understand the thread title. Lesbianism is a mental disorder. Less disgusting than gayanism but a disorder it is since if all women were lesbians we would be in a big pile of crap as a society. So now the question is how "lesbianism" and "progress" can appear side by side and make any sense.

Real progress would be the elimination of mental disorders, not promoting them as normal.
Oathbreaker 4 | 418
7 Feb 2022 #291
@Novichok
I'll never support any of your claims, wether they are sound or not. I would prefer to stay silent, so don't be delusional about it.

Criticising me, thinking I look at myself as a lord. While I look at myself as a servant, then going on to shout out your not anybody's slave... make up your mind!

You aren't acting like a free man, just like a paranoid plantation worker
Novichok 4 | 8,068
7 Feb 2022 #292
@Oathbreaker
And your post has what to do with feminism?
Oathbreaker 4 | 418
7 Feb 2022 #293
@Novichok
Problem with feminism is it's issue with perform service (any form) and seen as bad and linked to slavery. (Servant, indentured or not)

It's an attempt to destabilise society from serving one's own country and fellow human beings due to having a problem with the existence of hierarchies (especially those dominated by men) in which performing any service creates: anger, frustration and hostility
Novichok 4 | 8,068
7 Feb 2022 #294
If feminism is a refusal to "serve", I am a feminist. Nobody should be anybody's "servant". Humans should interact on the basis of equity. I work, you pay or I do X, you do Y. Anything else is wrong and not sustainable. There is no such thing as serving "God" or the country.
Oathbreaker 4 | 418
7 Feb 2022 #295
@Novichok
Then you can join other people in thinking that I do not exist. No need to write to me or even think that my posts exist. Bye bye
Novichok 4 | 8,068
7 Feb 2022 #296
No need to write to me

Not possible, either, since what you write is unclear.
Paulina 16 | 4,379
7 Feb 2022 #297
then enjoy just over two decades of being paid to be even more idle in society than the little effort they put in while "working."

"Idle"?? You have some nerve, Poloniusz, or you don't really live in Poland. Unlike men, women in Poland have two jobs - one is a regular job that they're being paid for and a second one - at home that they're doing for free. Men where I live, especially from my parents generation, do basically NOTHING at home. It's the women who are taking care of kids and do everything around the house: cooking, cleaning, doing the laundry, washing the dishes or even doing freaking everyday shopping, despite working professionally!

And it was always my mother that was working harder than my father even at her regular job!

And after all of that hard work, once she retired - do you think she gets to have some rest? No freaking way! She has to take care of her granddaughter, 5 days a week, and sometimes also on Saturday, if my brother and his wife want to go to a cinema or sth. Do you think my father is helping my mother? No, he isn't. He sometimes prepares water for the kid to drink and that's it. My mother is doing all the rest, including taking her to the playground, lifting her, carrying her, etc. despite her age and her back and hip problems. I remember I was present once at parents' place when after a long day of taking care of her granddaughter my mother went to do shopping at the supermarket - she went back with a shopping cart with sth like eight packages of toilet paper rolls + other shopping, tired, hungry, with her back aching... and she found my father sitting in an armchair with supper (sandwiches) that he made for himself and watching TV... but he didn't prepare anything for her... Even though that during their marriage she was always preparing sandwiches for him for breakfast, for supper and even for work... I've never seen him doing that for her. And that was one of very few moments when my mother "complained" and asked why didn't he make any sandwiches for her...

and we are yet to see any feminist or lesbian stand up and fight for progress and true equality between men and women.

Oh, I'll be the first to do that when I'll see that there's a reason to stand up for men in this area. Because for now I don't see any - certainly not where I live.

Also, you seem to be forgetting about something - due to the fact that women live longer they're getting lower retirement pensions. So after years of doing two jobs (and thus working harder than men and contributing more to the society than men), they're not only getting less money than men, but also, unlike men, they can't rest, because they have to take care of the grandkids and the house.

And men die earlier, because they smoke like chimneys, abuse alcohol, don't want to eat healthy and don't want to go to the doctors (=my father in a nutshell).

Oh, and btw... My niece is 5 years old now and she's attending a kindergarten, but still my mother has to pick her up at 2 pm, give her dinner and play with her until her mother comes for her. Once my niece was asked at the kindergarten to draw her family. She drew only her mom and grandma, despite the fact that she also had a dad and a grandad. Draw conclusions for yourself...

This is why men like you simply make me sick...
Novichok 4 | 8,068
7 Feb 2022 #298
And men die earlier, because they smoke like chimneys, abuse alcohol, don't want to eat healthy and don't want to go to the doctors

Nothing truer. Especially the last item.
johnny reb 48 | 7,120
7 Feb 2022 #299
Nothing truer.

True but even after Paulina explained it as plain as she could, I still don't think you want to get it.
Now do you understand why she is so bitter towards useless men ?
I think she may have hit a little too close to home. :-)
Novichok 4 | 8,068
7 Feb 2022 #300
And men die earlier because they smoke like chimneys, abuse alcohol, don't want to eat healthy and don't want to go to the doctors

The item I take exception to is that women are overworked because they are forced to rather than assume more responsibilities under the "who if not me" self-imposed obligation.

The case that makes me scream at my TV is when a mom becomes a grandma when her 17-year-old moron daughter brings a beautiful baby for her to raise as her own while the daughter is back with her friends doing exactly the same thing all over again. Tough love would be best expressed with you make a baby, you raise it and not in my house. Got it?

Women should be able and ready to stand up to their kids, too - the worst abusers ever. Men are easier to control.


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