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Poland's concord of cultures


berni23  7 | 377
12 Jan 2013   #61
Both Poles, Americans, Brits, Aussies, Irish and a few others start learning English in the first grade primary/elementary school!!!

One really cant start early enough with another language.
Unfortunately "experts" in Germany have the opinion that another language before the 3rd grade would overstrain the kids.
isthatu2  4 | 2692
12 Jan 2013   #62
Both Poles, Americans, Brits, Aussies, Irish and a few others start learning English in the first grade primary/elementary school!!!

Erm,not to rain on your parade,but,I started to learn my native language a few years before primary school :)
(not that teh hed start did me much goode ;) )
TheOther  6 | 3596
12 Jan 2013   #63
Fek, I am so forbearing and always give my morons another chance.

The way you behave is definitely not what one would expect from an adult; and especially not from someone who is claiming to work in the public school system. But I'm sure you know that already...

Unfortunately "experts" in Germany have the opinion that another language before the 3rd grade would overstrain the kids.

In the US, foreign language courses usually start in middle or high school. At the moment they are cutting back everywhere; except for Spanish that is.

Australia's highest peak is named Mount Kosciuszko!

Only mainland Australia. The highest peak is actually Mt. McClintock in the Australian Antarctic Territory.
berni23  7 | 377
12 Jan 2013   #64
In the US, foreign language courses usually start in middle or high school. At the moment they are cutting back everywhere; except for Spanish that is.

I guess thats the only language that makes sense for you guys anyway, travel wise at least.
Bieganski  17 | 888
12 Jan 2013   #65
Antarctica has no permanent population and hence no citizenship or government. All personnel present on Antarctica at any time are citizens or nationals of some sovereignty outside of Antarctica, as there is no Antarctic sovereignty. The majority of Antarctica is claimed by one or more countries, but most countries do not explicitly recognize those claims.

Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctic_Treaty_System
TheOther  6 | 3596
12 Jan 2013   #66
Fine, if you insist
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Antarctic_Territory#Recognition_of_Australian_sovereignty
take Mawson Peak on Heard Island instead. Still higher than Mt. Kosciuszko. ;)

FWIW: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mountains_in_Australia

I guess thats the only language that makes sense for you guys anyway, travel wise at least.

Not only travel-wise. The Latino population is constantly increasing and Spanish is often regarded as the second language already. Offical forms, automated phone systems ... there's always a Spanish version/ option
Paulina  16 | 4338
12 Jan 2013   #67
Geez, guys, who cares which is taller? lol The point is there's a Mt. Kosciuszko in Australia! Concord of cultures, people! Concord! xD

Men :)

*sighs*
TheOther  6 | 3596
12 Jan 2013   #68
Geez, guys, who cares which is taller?

Just a friendly banter, Paulina. :)
Bieganski  17 | 888
12 Jan 2013   #69
When people hear the word Australia it is an absolute sure bet that 99.9% of people inside Australia and all around the globe do not have Antarctica come to mind. They simply don't.

Most governments around the world do not recognize Australia's claims in Antarctica. So that means the claims are meaningless and unenforceable.

Besides all that it is even the official position of government departments in Australia that Mount Kosciuszko is the tallest peak in the country of Australia:

Kosciuszko is the king of national parks in Australia. Crowned by the majestic peak of Mt Kosciuszko, the country's highest mountain, the park covers almost 700,000 hectares. It is the State's largest national park and Australia's most extensive alpine region.

Source: visitnsw.com/destinations/snowy-mountains/kosciuszko-national-park

Note from the bottom of the aforementioned website:

VisitNSW is the official tourism site for Destination New South Wales, a department of NSW Government.

It is an act of desperate pedantic buffoonery to say that an offshore mountain on another continent which virtually nobody recognizes as belonging to Australia is actually the tallest peak in Australia.
berni23  7 | 377
12 Jan 2013   #70
I was always wondering about that, how did it come that the largest mountain in continental Australia is named after a Pole?
TheOther  6 | 3596
12 Jan 2013   #71
I only told you that Mt. Kosciuszko is not Australia's highest mountain, so what's your problem? Aaah, I forgot: Friday night - all Poles and PolAms are drunk... :)

Besides all that it is even the official position of government departments in Australia that Mount Kosciuszko is the tallest peak in the country of Australia:

Oh really?
ga.gov.au/education/geoscience-basics/landforms/highest-mountains.html
(scroll down the page)

I was always wondering about that, how did it come that the largest mountain in continental Australia is named after a Pole?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pawe%C5%82_Edmund_Strzelecki#Australia
berni23  7 | 377
12 Jan 2013   #72
Aaah, I forgot: Friday night - all Poles and PolAms are drunk... :)

Some PolGerms :D too. :)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pawe%C5%82_Edmund_Strzelecki#Australia

Hopefully ill remember tomorrow. ;)
Bieganski  17 | 888
12 Jan 2013   #73
I only told you that Mt. Kosciuszko is not Australia's highest mountain,

Yes, it is. Really.

The link you provided clearly states for all to read that Mount Kosciuszko is on the top of "Australia's ten highest mountains"

Your argument is based on the very bottom of the page under the section "Highest mountains on external territories". That's right "External territories" which is why the Australian government didn't include any offshore mountains in the top ten list of Australia's highest mountains. Because any mountains outside the mainland don't count. They are on another continent and the claims aren't regarded as valid in the world anyway.

So thanks for helping with more official sources to reinforce the fact which I've been stating all along. You'll just have to go to bed angry knowing that the highest mountain in Australia is named after a Pole by another Pole.

Dobranoc!
TheOther  6 | 3596
12 Jan 2013   #74
They are on another continent and the claims aren't regarded as valid in the world anyway.

Okay, let's try again (since the mods decided to send my last answer to the bin):

Heard Island:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heard_Island_and_McDonald_Islands

Quote: "Another surpassing Mount Koscuiszko is Mawson's Peak on Heard Island, which is 2745 metres high and forms the summit of an active volcano called Big Ben."

The Australian Antarctic Territory might be debatable from a legal perspective (the government of Australia doesn't care, though), but Heard Island is not. That island is unquestionable part of Australia. So, coming back to the original argument... Mt. Koscuiszko is the highest mountain on MAINLAND Australia (as I said already), but it is NOT - I repeat, NOT - the highest mountain of my country.
Bieganski  17 | 888
12 Jan 2013   #75
Mt. Koscuiszko is the highest mountain on MAINLAND Australia (as I said already), but it is NOT - I repeat, NOT - the highest mountain of my country.

Yes it is. You said so yourself:

Another surpassing Mount Koscuiszko [sic] is Mawson's Peak on Heard Island, which is 2745 metres high and forms the summit of an active volcano called Big Ben.

Indeed, your quote states that Mawson's Peak forms the summit of an active volcano called Big Ben. It is not a mountain. It is a peak on a volcano called Big Ben.

Mount Kosciuszko on the other hand is a mountain outright. It is not a volcano nor is it a peak on a volcano with a different name.

Thanks again for helping to reinforce the fact which I've been stating all along and which the Australian government proudly recognizes: Mount Kosciuszko is the highest mountain in all of Australia and therefore is also seen as the highest peak in and of itself in all of Australia.

The geography in these other unrecognized "external territories" is not relevant to the discussion.

The Australian Antarctic Territory might be debatable from a legal perspective (the government of Australia doesn't care, though), but Heard Island is not. That island is unquestionable part of Australia.

I've already told you several times now that virtually no one in the international community recognizes territorial claims to the Antarctic even if those making the claims don't care what the rest of the international community thinks.

Heard Island is an uninhabited nature preserve over 4,000 KM southwest of Australia; it's a wild stretch of the imagination for you to say it is "your country". You never set foot on it and you never will.

Your outlandish beliefs are even more far flung and questionable than these same "external territories" you keep trying to introduce into this thread. It is abundantly clear that you resent the fact that Australia's highest mountain was named after a Pole and by another Pole.

what did you find the same or very similar

Both Poles and the British are proud to show off their shared affinity for royalty:

Polish Zloty - Cash is king

British Pound Sterling
AmerTchr  4 | 201
13 Jan 2013   #76
pawian: Both Poles, Americans, Brits, Aussies, Irish and a few others start learning English in the first grade primary/elementary school!!!
Erm,not to rain on your parade

As do the overwhelming majority of Brits, Americans, Aussies, Canadians and the Kiwis.
OP pawian  221 | 24961
13 Jan 2013   #77
Oh, I see it now, my use of learning was mislesading for you. Sorry. Of course, I meant formal education with teacher, classes etc.

Both Poles and the British are proud to show off their shared affinity for royalty:

Nice one.

Warsaw: Poland Zygmunt

London
AmerTchr  4 | 201
22 Jan 2013   #78
I had such mixed emotions about Warsaw's downtown.

Clean, nice design, a bit sterile, still a work-in-progress I guess.
OP pawian  221 | 24961
22 Jan 2013   #79
still a work-in-progress I guess.

What do you mean? Construction sites and building works everywhere?
AmerTchr  4 | 201
22 Jan 2013   #80
No, the work sites seem to be cleared up (had to close things up tight for Euro 2012). I meant more in the metaphorical sense than the literal. After WW2 Warsaw was rebuilt without so much of its heritage (although there were a few exceptions of course). Then after perestroika they seem to have begun trying for the reconstruction of replica buildings. I think it is still continuing. Unlike Krakow or some of the other cities which were spared the bombings and seige combat of World War Two, Warsaw seems to be still trying to find a mood and evolve its atmosphere.
OP pawian  221 | 24961
23 Jan 2013   #81
I meant more in the metaphorical sense than the literal.

Yes, I know what you mean:

Unlike Krakow or some of the other cities which were spared the bombings and seige combat of World War Two,

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Warsaw seems to be still trying to find a mood and evolve its atmosphere.

Exactly: Wonderful concord! Both Poles and Brits are reluctant to eat horse meat and treat it as taboo.

The thesis in this article about British fully pertain to Poles.

bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21043368

There is no real logic as to why plenty of Britons are perfectly willing to eat cows, pigs, and chickens, but see horses as taboo, according to Dr Roger Mugford, an animal psychologist who runs the Animal Behaviour Centre.

- I'm a farmer and there is an irony. Why are horses different from pigs and lambs?; he says.
Part of the reason is people frequently see horses as pets, and humans tend to put extra qualities and values; on animals they call pets, he says.


Poland cavarly

Oops, instead of great English cavalry, I posted some silly French one.

It seems our nations have another thing in common: reluctance to clean after your dog!!
That is why they need to be constantly reminded:

Britain

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USA

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Poles have always given way to ambulances, even breaking rules if necessary. Like everywhere in Europe. That is why I was immensely surprised reading Russian comments about youtube films in which they express regret such custom doesn`t exist in Russia.

Ambulance ride in Poland

In Russia


OP pawian  221 | 24961
8 Aug 2022   #82
in Germany

In Germany they like white sausage and pork hock and so they do in Poland.

Look closely - it is pure meat. In Britain they have similar looking stuff but its contents is meat pulp, like patee.


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Lyzko  41 | 9558
8 Aug 2022   #83
When I finally made it over to Poland in the mid-'90's, the food was obviously much more familiar to me than the language!
Miloslaw  21 | 4945
8 Aug 2022   #84
In Britain they have similar looking stuff but its contents is meat pulp

British sausages are full of cr@p compared to all European sausages.
Lyzko  41 | 9558
9 Aug 2022   #85
There I couldn't agree more.
Most food on the Continent is simply made with superior ingredients, rather than mass-produced.

Until perhaps only the past thirty years or so, the English, like the Americans, were never known for their cuisine.

All the wealthy landed gentry used to brag that they employed French cooks:-)
jon357  73 | 22946
9 Aug 2022   #86
British sausages are full of cr@p

They contain rusk which is what gives them their unique and delicious texture. I find the kind of Polish sausage that are sold for grilling have too much meat in.

You should see what goes into Polish kielbasa biała.

Most food on the Continent is simply made with superior

Most food consumed in continental Europe, including Poland, is mass produced, often to very low standards.

As for restaurants in France, fewer than half have fully functioning kitchens. Most just reheat boil in the bag stuff bought in from dark kitchens or finish off microwaved frozen stuff under the grill. Unfortunately profit margins almost always trump quality.

You'd be pleasantly surprised by British shops though.

All the wealthy landed gentry used to brag that they employed French cooks:-)

They didn't, actually. Even very few.


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