Poland's concord of cultures

If i ask an innocent question I get labled an imperialist brit who is insulting Glorious Poland......hard to keep explaining that Im such a mongrol i find blind patriotism baffling and slightly schizoid inducing :)


Now thats got me scratching my head lol
"We" sort of got around a bit,its hard to keep track just where......how are things in the colonies anyway old chap ;)

Every nation is different and every nation evolves. You have to remember that Poland's current borders were settled only after WWII and even then the country was gripped by communist authoritarianism during a time of the need to rebuild. Poles have every right to self-identify how they want rather than seeing occupiers, partitioners and destroyers as just another part of history to be observed in a neutral way.

As far as Britain goes it is also consciously selective at times in the wording of its past. It will acknowledge there was a "Norman Britain" but the Normans spoke French and subsequently English kings married French royalty and aristocrats and in turn ruled over parts of France too. So why not talk about "French Britain"? Because after the Napoleonic wars it won't happen - ever.

Angles, Saxons and Jutes were from the lands now called Denmark and Germany? Why not "Danish Britain"? Even Shakespeare talked about Denmark. And why not "German Britain"? Well, perhaps we should ask a Windsor (nee Saxe-Coburg-Gotha) that question. Did you know that most British don't even comprehend that English is a Germanic language?

It seems the British are only willing to add a foreign cultural adjective to the word Britain if that foreign culture no longer exists.

Perhaps none of this matters anyway. With devolution, calls for independence and many British being displaced by immigrants from far beyond Europe it is unlikely there will even be a Britain in the future as we know it today. Britain will probably only be something that might be referred to in the history books and that's assuming the people in the future living in what was once Britain will be interested in learning about it and preserving its past. Most likely they won't.

Erm,simply not true.


I live in the old Danelaw, no one is ashamed of calling this part *danish britain* except it just wouldnt be factually correct.


For the same reason the French never talk about the huge parts of their country that were for centuries ruled by English Kings and Queens I suppose. Britain was never actually ruled by a *french * person where as france was ruled by English Kings. the Normans were Normans,the French were french,its as simple as that Im afraid,not some elaborate conspiricy :)

( of course we are talking the middle ages definition of france,that was a small part around Paris and not the present borders.)


I think you maybe need to move in slightly more educated circles if these are the people you meet in britain, my own collegues and friends would beg to differ,but considering i work in heritage and am re training in Archaeology to work on local community projects thats not really a surprise :)

BTW, I thought you lived in Canada,where is this *expertise* in the modern british relationship to our history and culture obtained,am v curious :)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_Act_1986


The colonies downunder are burning, the colonies across the pond still have to endure their stupid politicians. Other than that, things couldn't be better at the moment. :)


Why do you think Poland is something special in this respect? It's not the only country in the world that got raided, annexed or destroyed over the centuries. And the "occupiers, partitioners and destroyers", as you call them, didn't only destroy. They were also settlers who built and enriched Poland. Polish history is much more than WW2.

no longer colonies, thank God but I agree, our current government sucks, big time.

To be honest, I had the folks in Congress in mind ... all of them ... :)

I know (since you're a big Obama supporter) but Obama and Co. is even worse (all of them suck though).

Nah, not really. It's just that the alternatives were simply unacceptable...

not perfect but acceptable.

Mitt Robme and Lying Ryan? :)

all politicians are lying, no doubt about it

How many Poles have you seen? :):):)


Come on, things are changing. Who denies that Germans built sth in Poland. I never did.
As for canals, some were built by Germans, other by Poles. What the heck? Who cares?


Yes, but it was done for British money so it doesn`t count.


No, we can`t call them seafaring nation for making voyages to US.

I certainly hope so.

Everything will be fine but could you please stop making constant references to Germans because it is really infantile and makes you look a bit obsessive which may be annoying to certain posters. :):):):):):):)

Who built? #Why you are so obsessed with that who? Who destroyed or stolen this or that shoudl be an appropriate retort for you mania! Who destroyed Warsaw, who stolen Gdansk? from whom taxes were extorted for most of those projects.

And about 40% of canals in Poland has been build either by Poles( autonomous Polish Kingdom 1815-1831) or the Polish state. Also many canals build by Polish government are in today Belarus and Ukraine.

Just take a chill pill.

Yes, who? I second that question!


Exactly. :):):)

Sorry, but some of the nutters here need to be annoyed on a constant basis. Ask me again when the ultra-nationalistic BS on PF has stopped and certain people have learned to accept that the Polish version of history is not the only one out there.

Yes, you are a veritable pain in their asses. :):):)


When will it be? :):):)


I didn`t get upset. I just supported Iron. Call it national solidarity. :):):):)

When the mods are finally ready to clean up?


LOL! Okay, you are excused. ;)

i'm not upset by what you have written but by the fact that in many threads on different subjects you are posting one lines - who build it, it was Germans who did it and so on and on!

It can be interpreted as trolling or as an mental disorder. You have obsession bordering on an unhealthy obsession. You should sort out yourself first.

Hey, Other, how about posting something valuable at last? Are you able to think of any concord of culture between Poles and Germans?

You share large parts of your history, both cultures are closely related. That's a good basis, isn't it?

Yep!

Any specific examples? Come on! Show us that having been in this forum for a few years have taught you something! :):):):):):)

Let's hear something valuable from you first... :)

Seriously, what's your opinion as a Pole? Can you give me some positive examples? Are you guys able to see the similarities and accept your shared history, or is the memory of WW2 still too fresh? What about the young generation? Any real changes in this respect over the past 20 years?

The Other, I asked you a question.


You shunned it and played the ball back to me.


If you are really serious with it...

as a teacher, I must say your educational progress in this forum amounts to zero.

You are wasting time, yours and ours, with your presence here.

PS. I will give you one more chance, I always give it to underpriviliged students. Check my threads.

You've asked an Australian what is going on in the heads of the Poles and Germans, you realize that?


Educational progress through childish insults, moronic nationalism and fascist ideas? Yep, that was always my dream.

Nope. If you had really paid attention and tried to do some intellectual effort, you would have certainly acquired proper knowledge and wouldn`t need to stupidly shun questions now.

But you have been lazy and focused on sensational fun only.
:(:(:(:


Fek, I am so forbearing and always give my morons another chance. And another. And so on....

The Other, I must say you disappointed me with your intellectual incapacity. I come to the forum to relax after hard work with halfwits at school and courses. And who do I have to deal with here? Another halfwit who isn`t able to read on his/her own? What a failure......

But, never mind, I will eventually answer your stupid questions. It is my work, my duty, my chore after all.


polishforums.com/history-poland-34/poles-owe-germans-53954/

polishforums.com/history-poland-34/story-german-polish-reconciliation-53995/

There are tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of Poles and Polonia who now call Australia home.

Poles have had a presence in Australia for at least a century.

Australia's highest peak is named Mount Kosciuszko!



It's located in Kosciuszko National Park!



So with so much in common let Poles and Australians find peace and harmony here on PF:

Amen!

Hey, another concord! Universal!!

Both Poles, Americans, Brits, Aussies, Irish and a few others start learning English in the first grade primary/elementary school!!!

A very salient photo to this discussion. I hope they learn a lot from each other.